robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Hazard is 110% off. Regardless of CL or not. As for Pepe? Transfer ban? Hopefully it is only 5 or 6 months instead of 9 months like they can be but regardless, hopefully he gets a good recovery and can come into contention some point next season. His youth will help him have a speedy recovery. This injury can really be a dangerous one at senior level, but Odoi will recover. Time for the club to show commitment and get him a long term deal. Perhaps the player and his father/agent will have a difference appreciation for what can happen in a footballers career. Just a minor silver lining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Im gutted. You are forgetting this is Chelsea. He will recover around November, but by then the club will completely forget about him like they did with Zouma. Maybe a bit part here and there, but the manager will keep saying he isnt ready after such injury. Eventualy he will get a loan to get his fitness back and maybe return if he delivers. How much worse can this season get? The one thing I was looking forward was Odoi developing next season if Hazard realy leaves and the ban stands. Now its going be another wasted season with Pedro and Willian. Or Pulisic. We still have RLC and James hopefuly but this season is realy turning into absolute shit. kellzfresh, manpe and Vybz Kartel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Im gutted. You are forgetting this is Chelsea. He will recover around November, but by then the club will completely forget about him like they did with Zouma. Maybe a bit part here and there, but the manager will keep saying he isnt ready after such injury. Eventualy he will get a loan to get his fitness back and maybe return if he delivers. How much worse can this season get? The one thing I was looking forward was Odoi developing next season if Hazard realy leaves and the ban stands. Now its going be another wasted season with Pedro and Willian. Or Pulisic. We still have RLC and James hopefuly but this season is realy turning into absolute shit. Writing off Pulisic before hes even pulled on the shirt is typical Chelsea isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I' devastated, I really am. The poor lad has just hit a major set back in his career. The footballing Gods are really against us at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, OneMoSalah said: Writing off Pulisic before hes even pulled on the shirt is typical Chelsea isnt it? I rate the players based on what I see from their games. Pulisic didnt show anything to be worth 40m, nevermind 60m. He isnt top level talent mate or better yet his performances havent proven that. He will likely get bullied in PL, he has a poor shot, something that will hurt our already shit finishing abilities and he has recently been injured alot. I certainly dont count on him turning the league around. He is nothing but a raw talent and needs alot of development, something unlikely to recieve here. I will however support him and gladly eat my words if he actualy delivers. But I wont just blindly believe he is going to be great for us because he cost 60m and media hyping him in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BlueLyon said: I rate the players based on what I see from their games. Pulisic didnt show anything to be worth 40m, nevermind 60m. He isnt top level talent mate or better yet his performances havent proven that. He will likely get bullied in PL, he has a poor shot, something that will hurt our already shit finishing abilities and he has recently been injured alot. I certainly dont count on him turning the league around. He is nothing but a raw talent and needs alot of development, something unlikely to recieve here. I will however support him and gladly eat my words if he actualy delivers. But I wont just blindly believe he is going to be great for us because he cost 60m and media hyping him in the air. Hasnt shown anything this season yes but watch the other seasons he played for Dortmund there is definitely something there that with a bit of work could be a very good player. Yes 60m is an inflated fee but what isnt these days? Way I look at him is, Sterling cost City 49m and that raised a lot of eyebrows despite him being a better level than Pulisic. The fee wound people up even more so after his first season at City which was very poor, you need to wait and give these young players time. He has potential, not the level of Sterling but its just a comparison in regards to how his first season panned out at City in comparison to now where hes arguably the best goalscoring winger in the PL alongside Salah and Mane. Pulisic could come here do decent then properly kick on the next year. Realistically talking thats like Eden under RDM and Benitez, first season here was probably inconsistently below what he and many of us would of liked considering his reputation/talent but few seasons later and boom (again Pulisic will never be Eden level but in terms of progression even the Sterlings and Hazards can need a year or two to grow). People are also getting far too caught up with Jadon Sancho at BVB and the fact Pulisic hasnt played as regularly this season, it will be interesting how both of them do next season. A lot can change, as Pulisic probably didnt expect 2 seasons ago when he was playing regularly to now be a bench player for a season.... dont think its fair to judge him on a season where he was in a contract dispute and signed with a new team midway through the season. If hed played every week and done poorly fair enough but he hasnt and with previous seasons showing promise (end product needs work) it could turn out a decent move still. 60m is a lot but thats modern day football. Lukaku cost 75m. Alexis Sanchez makes 500k a week. PSG bought Neymar for 220m. Any deal can be looked at as ludicrous. 1905didierblue, the wes and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Gutted for him. He will be back leading the team I'm sure when Pulisic has cooled down by November Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Jason said: OH FUCK just saw this!! Callum Hudson-Odoi: Ruptured Achilles sidelines Chelsea winger https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48018078 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 well hell we are so fucked he walks on a free now surely in summer 2020 (or for piss-pot change January 2020) Bayern will not buy an injured player till recovered and he will not renew FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 big blow for England too, in the semi final of the Nations League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Strike said: Gutted for him. He will be back leading the team I'm sure when Pulisic has cooled down by November Leading the team? He's been worse than Pedro and Willian. Gutted for the 35 millions we could've got for him if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlen Correa 161 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: big blow for England too, in the semi final of the Nations League Feel sorry for the kid of course. But in the case of the English nt they have far better wingers in Sterling and Sancho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hazardinho Gaucho said: Feel sorry for the kid of course. But in the case of the English nt they have far better wingers in Sterling and Sancho. yes, bt he was a good squad option, ironically in case of injuries and yes, both of those too are STREETS beyond CHO atm too bad we couldn't convince Son to switch citizenship when he was staring down barrel of 2 or 3 years mandatory SoKo military duty 2 years back (they won Asian Cup so he was exempted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Wonder if this is anything to do with him playing a lot of minutes recently or just bad luck. Blame Heaton's silly wayward goal kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Hasnt shown anything this season yes but watch the other seasons he played for Dortmund there is definitely something there that with a bit of work could be a very good player. Yes 60m is an inflated fee but what isnt these days? Way I look at him is, Sterling cost City 49m and that raised a lot of eyebrows despite him being a better level than Pulisic. The fee wound people up even more so after his first season at City which was very poor, you need to wait and give these young players time. He has potential, not the level of Sterling but its just a comparison in regards to how his first season panned out at City in comparison to now where hes arguably the best goalscoring winger in the PL alongside Salah and Mane. Pulisic could come here do decent then properly kick on the next year. Realistically talking thats like Eden under RDM and Benitez, first season here was probably inconsistently below what he and many of us would of liked considering his reputation/talent but few seasons later and boom (again Pulisic will never be Eden level but in terms of progression even the Sterlings and Hazards can need a year or two to grow). People are also getting far too caught up with Jadon Sancho at BVB and the fact Pulisic hasnt played as regularly this season, it will be interesting how both of them do next season. A lot can change, as Pulisic probably didnt expect 2 seasons ago when he was playing regularly to now be a bench player for a season.... dont think its fair to judge him on a season where he was in a contract dispute and signed with a new team midway through the season. If hed played every week and done poorly fair enough but he hasnt and with previous seasons showing promise (end product needs work) it could turn out a decent move still. 60m is a lot but thats modern day football. Lukaku cost 75m. Alexis Sanchez makes 500k a week. PSG bought Neymar for 220m. Any deal can be looked at as ludicrous. I really don't get why people feel the need to go for the kill on Pulisic before he has even played for us. Maybe it's the accumulation of buying average players over the years. Maybe people have been spoiled by Sancho, Mbappe etc doing the bits in their teens and they expect everyone else to be the same or otherwise, they are rubbish but as you alluded to, Pulisic is still young and has shown promise in previous Dortmund seasons. Just because he isn't doing well now, just because he has lost his way a little bit, it doesn't mean it will remain that way and likewise, just because someone is doing well right now, it doesn't mean it will remain that way. Pulisic is only 20 and has plenty of room to grow. 1905didierblue and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Feel sorry for the kid, wish him a full recovery rather than a fast one. Now it's time for Willian to play a couple of good matches and sell his ass to Barca NikkiCFC, Johnnyeye, 1905didierblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said: Feel sorry for the kid, wish him a full recovery rather than a fast one. Now it's time for Willian to play a couple of good matches and sell his ass to Barca Don't think we will sell hazard, willian and Pedro. And I would rather play a 10% fit willian than a 100%fit pedro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Really disappointed for the lad when he was seemingly becoming first choice for us. It is an opportunity however for the club to stand by him through this and hopefully get him to commit to a new contract. I would however also agree with some that he hasn't played anywhere near as well the last couple of games compared to what he was like earlier in the season. The intensity of the Premier League is for the most part a standard up from the Europa League and it probably does justify Sarri's stance earlier in the season not to push the button with CHO so quickly in the league. However some of the posts on here are incredibly fickle. The kid is 18, he's not going to play well every game and every week. Inconsistency is part of the make up of younger players who will suffer blips and struggles in their early career - it's how they grow as footballers. The problem is the way the club is run, and as a result the fans have brought into the idea of instant success and papering over cracks to attempt to maintain high levels. The club and fans have a short patience - it applies to managers and a number of players who haven't been afforded the opportunity to completely settle at the club, the expectation is to hit the ground running or you're unlikely to survive long. If senior and experienced managers and players have suffered from this short term approach then what chance do young players have who need to be afforded even more time and patience to grow and blossom? For me the club needs to change its approach and build around a core of high quality academy talent that serve to boost the squad depth first and hopefully become first team regulars second. In doing so, the club can focus on a couple of high quality additions each season rather than trying to buy a handful of players, some expected to be starters, others as squad depth but ultimately poorer quality all around because our budget is stretched thinner. However in order for that to be a success the club and the fans must buy into younger players and afford them time and patience to grow and develop because it won't work without that support. 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Blow for Bayern Munich this summer Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Chelsea will offer winger Callum Hudson-Odoi a new contract, according to The Telegraph. Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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