Ross Barkley

[El P. 1,354]

Where he fits in our team? CAM in 3-5-2, it's bright as a day. Better this than nothing, I guess...

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[Artandur 939]

Whats the status of his fitness ? Hope we dont have to wait another few months again, until he‘s able to play.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

End of summer window after properly thinking it through, i was convinced he never took a medical with us.  His public statement/tweets then backed it up for me.

chain of events IMO was:

 

-We agree a fee and get Ross and agent to London (or elsewhere) with no intention of doing the deal then.  (why pay 35 and have him sidelined 4-5 months at which time a new window opens?)

-gives us a chance to examine his injury ourselves

-we then tell Barkley and agent, go back to Everton get fit for January, we will come sign you and throw you a few extra quid for waiting etc etc.  wink wink nudge nudge  Mutual handshake takes place, and both us and Ross have known since August he was joining us this month.

 

Had literally sod all to do with Spurs ringin him mid medical IMO**.  Sheer rubbish.

 

**cue the bastards now signing him**

[AK-3001 286]

5 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

End of summer window after properly thinking it through, i was convinced he never took a medical with us.  His public statement/tweets then backed it up for me.

chain of events IMO was:

 

-We agree a fee and get Ross and agent to London (or elsewhere) with no intention of doing the deal then.  (why pay 35 and have him sidelined 4-5 months at which time a new window opens?)

-gives us a chance to examine his injury ourselves

-we then tell Barkley and agent, go back to Everton get fit for January, we will come sign you and throw you a few extra quid for waiting etc etc.  wink wink nudge nudge  Mutual handshake takes place, and both us and Ross have known since August he was joining us this month.

 

Had literally sod all to do with Spurs ringin him mid medical IMO**.  Sheer rubbish.

 

**cue the bastards now signing him**

Might be some truth in it. Evertonians are slating him on twitter. They're saying that the Chelsea medical team indeed took his medical and got to know he wasn't going to be ready until january anyway. Management came in and sort of had an agreement with him that he'd recover at Everton for these 5 months and then come in January at a much lower price, giving him and his agent a pay cut in between. 

[AK-3001 286]

9 minutes ago, El P. said:

Where he fits in our team? CAM in 3-5-2, it's bright as a day. Better this than nothing, I guess...

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Pretty much. We have lacked an attacking intent from the midfield. Can see him challenging Baka for his role. May be used to rest Cesc as well. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

1 minute ago, AK-3001 said:

Might be some truth in it. Evertonians are slating him on twitter. They're saying that the Chelsea medical team indeed took his medical and got to know he wasn't going to be ready until january anyway. Management came in and sort of had an agreement with him that he'd recover at Everton for these 5 months and then come in January at a much lower price, giving him and his agent a pay cut in between. 

Id say thats bang on almost.  I still dont think he actually had a medical... and if he did, he didnt quit halfway through lol no chance.  He'd have failed and thats why we told him wait until Jan. 

 

But then we'd have an idea how bad his injury was before even starting talks... so thats why i think a golden handshake occurred

 

[The Skipper 20,593]

Also, I’d be much more comfortable with a Barkley/Kanté pivot than a Cesc/Kanté midfield. At least Ross is an athlete. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

1 minute ago, The Skipper said:

Also, I’d be much more comfortable with a Barkley/Kanté pivot than a Cesc/Kanté midfield. At least Ross is an athlete. 

I think Barkley would do a good job.  I am not dead against his move as some are.  

[Artandur 939]

Funnily this 19 year old would excite me more, than signing him today

[Superblue 6,370]

In the current climate of transfer fees, if we get Barkley here for £15m it will be very clever business. 

He reminds me of Joe Cole, hugely talented but currently lacking direction. For me he can offer an option in the three of a 3-4-3 but he will be well suited to a 3-5-2 as an alternative to Fabregas.

At the moment in this formation Kante and Fabregas must start, with Drinkwater and Bakayoko rotating depending on the circumstances. I do think that Drinkwater is underrated on the ball but he's nowhere near on Fabregas' level, which is where Barkley can come in. He doesn't currently have the class that Fabregas has, but he is a creative option that is far more dynamic than Fabregas. Developing over time in a more orthodox midfield role will also potentially help to mould him eventually into a 2 man midfield option too.

And with regards to RLC, he still needs time to develop. You only have to look at the success of Courtois and Christensen who were given time to develop on loan at one club for more than a season. The trick is to find a club (if it's not Palace) where RLC can play regularly for a couple of seasons, get vital experience and grow as a player before returning.

[The Skipper 20,593]

36 minutes ago, Pizy said:

My complaints are that he's coming off a huge injury, he doesn't have a best, ideal position, and I don't see where exactly he fits into our team. For £15m we don't have anything to lose, but we should be aiming to immedietly improve our team rather than taking punts on potential.

He does improve the team though tbh. We don’t have a player of his profile and he is actually a good player that has room to grow.

People forget he’s still only 24. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Many were against Drinkwater signing - and for me he has been very good. A valuable addition IMO.  

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

Always thought he was really overrated although he does have potential and for £15m if he can add a consistency and end product to his game then he will be a very decent signing in the long run. Hopefully he can stay fit, that is just as much an issue for me as his end product and inconsistency.

[The Skipper 20,593]

7 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

Many were against Drinkwater signing - and for me he has been very good. A valuable addition IMO.  

A £40m worth addition? So far, I think not. He isn’t going to improve by much either. Relatively getting older (28 this year). He’s not a bad player but there’s just no upside. 

[Superblue 6,370]

5 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

A £40m worth addition? So far, I think not. He isn’t going to improve by much either. Relatively getting older (28 this year). He’s not a bad player but there’s just no upside. 

I agree. If we had brought him for around £20m it would have been good business.

This just highlights though that a player the level and calibre of Drinkwater is going for £30-35m nowadays, and therefore if we can get Barkley for around £15m it would be very astute.

[The Skipper 20,593]

9 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I agree. If we had brought him for around £20m it would have been good business.

This just highlights though that a player the level and calibre of Drinkwater is going for £30-35m nowadays, and therefore if we can get Barkley for around £15m it would be very astute.

The best thing about it is the price. He comes in with a lot less pressure and nowhere near as many expectations, and that will help him get into things a lot easier. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Still dont know where we think hes going to play?

And it will mean no Vidal too shirley..

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Vybzkartel said:

Lets be honest we are no longer a big boy club. We want to act like it but we are not simple. When was the last time we signed a World Class player?? Fabregas and Costa in 2014 maybe?? We are a budget version of City and PSG now. Once the Hazard and Courtios class of 2011/12 go we are pretty much going back to meritocracy because we cant buy world class talent anymore 

Well I agree we stepped on brake but Kante was pretty much top quality signing. Morata was example we are not afraid to fork big money either (70m isnt small amount).

Besides when did Chelsea buy world class? Like truly established world class players or talents? 

Yes we signed quality defenders like Cole and Carvalho but Im positive we still can. If one thing, we can attract quality defenders. 

As it goes for other positions, Essien, Drogba, Anelka, Malouda,...they were good players but hardly proven. We make such buys in Bakayoko, Batshuayi,...

Unfortunely some players dont have same impact as our previous generations. 

Lets be honest I can easily see Chelsea fork 80m for Lemar or Fekir in summer if we sell Pedro/Willian. But question is if they will deliver. 

Its a myth Chelsea could get Dybala or Griezmann in 2005. We were never as close to such players as we are now. Only difference is we spend less and we rather keep the players we have. Unfortunely some are realy underachieving.