Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, cfcs most wanted said: I don't know what convincing you guys really need. When you're the main striker of a top club like Chelsea and have been bought for a record transfer . People atleast expect him to put 1 out of 3 1v1's. That isn't too much to ask from him is it. Judging by today it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, cfcs most wanted said: I don't know what convincing you guys really need. When you're the main striker of a top club like Chelsea and have been bought for a record transfer . People atleast expect him to put 1 out of 3 1v1's. That isn't too much to ask from him is it. Not defending Morata's performance tonight because he was rubbish. But the comparisons with Torres are just plain stupid! OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: He'll get a few in the next matches to get his confidence up. Needs everyone behind him rather than moaning about him. My 5 year old sat and watched the game with and his words were this.... "Dad, Morata needs to sort his feet out, his balance isn't right" 5 years old Last Sicarius, The Chels and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: Not defending Morata's performance tonight because he was rubbish. But the comparisons with Torres are just plain stupid! Yea you are right. Torres was a better finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Mana said: Torres and Morata are almost the same to me. Why? Because I don't care if Morata gets himself in better positions than Torres. It's about putting the ball at the back of the fecking net. If neither of them can do it, then they are all about the same. Morata had 3 1v1s and he didn't bury any. That's as equal as Torres missing a sitter. Flipping Salah would bury it, a player that we got rid of and EVEN BATS. If it was just about scoring goals, Mario Gomez would have been the most sought after striker of this generation. Movement and positioning is important, defender's ignored Torres because he had literally not a single redeming quality about him, they can't do that with Morata. Mufassir08, Beigl, OneMoSalah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 He's painful to the watch at times. But we have this so often! There's always a expensive player.. Torres... Sheva... Him at the moment who just can't do it. And you get behind them and really want them to just do it and yet... Off they go elsewhere. Maybe next week be his week... Maybe it'll all suddenly change and won't miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, DDA said: Yea you are right. Torres was a better finisher. NOT FOR US! Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Laylabelle said: Judging by today it is... It's not just about today, he has been missing sitters in almost every match. I quite understand the points about him creating chances. But scoring is a basic quality for a striker. It can't be the aspect that is missing. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Benzema has been on the decline for some time & is far from the striker he was at Lyon. I believe Michy is a better finisher than Morata and have stated that on a few occasions. I never said he was outright better than him & should be starting every game. Horses for courses He may be a better finisher but Morata is better in the air, better movement, faster and has proven this season why he should start ahead of him. This is coming from someone who is a fan of Bats. Bats finishing is better and he is good with either foot but in majority of games he has started this season, has not exactly covered himself in glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said: It's not just about today, he has been missing sitters in almost every match. I quite understand the points about him creating chances. But scoring is a basic quality for a striker. It can't be the aspect that is missing. Ya agree and that's what mean.. And it keeps going that way.. Spend a lot of money on a striker and they don't actually seem capable of scoring. Know he has scored a few but 3 in a game and nothing is pretty bad. Frustrating so frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: NOT FOR US! Torres peformances for us are a complete mystery, evem to this day. I was watching a video on him when he played for Atheltico and Liverpool. The lad was immense in front of goal. Morata has never shown that the kind of instinct on front of goal that Torres once showed... but yea for us he was shit lol. Jase and Amblève. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mana said: At least Mario Gomez does what a striker should be doing... Movement and positioning is important I agree, but your job as a STRIKER is to score goals. Morata's positioning and movement means feck all to me if no goal comes out of it. Well it does it it free's up Hazard due to a defender being occupied by Morata, as what happened vs West Brom for example. 3 minutes ago, DDA said: Torres peformances for us are a complete mysyery, evem to this day. I was watching a video on him when he played for Atheltico and Liverpool. The lad was immense in front of goal. Morata has never shown that the kind of instinct on front of goal that Torres once showed... but yea for us he was shit lol. Torres was a limited footballer with outstanding pace and stength, as soon as injury's took those attributes away and he needed his technical ability that's when his career went South. El P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Doesn't apply to everyone but does to some Chelsea fans: Morata before December: Good player. Glad we never paid 75M for Lukaku. Morata after December: New Torres/worse than Batshuayi, needs to be upgraded on. Make your minds up eh? Jase and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jason said: The Torres comparison is even worse! To be honest, Im not the one to blast our players but I have to say Im dissapointed and worried about Morata. Fair enough, he is rather brilliant in linkup and passing, also decent dribbler. Fantastic header. BUT he is our main striker and his feet and mentality are absolute disaster. He is unreliable, extremly unreliable. I like striker to be allround. But his first and main job is to score and finish off chances. Morata is not doing that. He failed vs Roma, he failed vs Atletico, he failed today and probably we can find just about 10 other games where he missed perfect one on ones. Costa was hated for all the shit, but in the end he scored those goals. He would score all three that Morata missed, you and I and everyone else knows it. We would win comfortably. Not saying Costa didnt miss sitters, but hell not even close to this many. He might not even get in position or lost the ball earlier, but what good Morata gets from his other abilities if he ends up missing the chance? Bottom line Morata good or not, we need RELIABLE striker upfront. Simple as that. Right now Morata isnt even close to reliable and its understood he should be benched. We just dont have anyone better. But its clear now why Real sold him so easily. The guy turns in potato infront of goal. That cant be trained or tought. He is such character. At 25 its not much you can change. He can practice all day, when he goes up against Cech in real match, it will be same old story. And right now he under a lot of pressure and probably thinks about all the missing chances. Given he isnt strong character, expect more of sitters missed by him in next games. Its just sad truth, but he is awfuly awfuly unreliable striker. Good thing is we can always play him as second striker along someone who can actualy score. The goals he scored hide the fact how awful he actualy is infront of goal. 10% scoring ratio is below average when quality strikers have 30-35%. It says it all. But hey I dont hate him at all. He is still a good player in the end. However I want striker that can be relied upon. A striker that will bury the chance when he gets one. They win you games. And if Morata cant do it, bench him. Its costing us big points. kellzfresh and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Tomo said: Well it does it it free's up Hazard due to a defender being occupied by Morata, as what happened vs West Brom. Torres was a limited footballer with outstanding pace and stength, as soon as injury's took those attributes away and he needed his technical ability that's when his career went South. Very true. It was his injuries that fucked him but even when he was Atheltico and Pool and he had pace and strengtg, he also had a superb goalscoring instinct. You don't score as many goals as he was scoring without being able to finish. When he was wearing Liverpool colours and he was through in a one v one situation... you held your head in your hands.. you knew what was coming. When he played for us he lost his confidence along with his pace and power which ultimately tunred him into the donkey that he became haha! Laylabelle and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Doesn't apply to everyone but does to some Chelsea fans: Morata before December: Good player. Glad we never paid 75M for Lukaku. Morata after December: New Torres/worse than Batshuayi, needs to be upgraded on. Make your minds up eh? We are not allowed to change our minds, based on his performances? No one could have predicted that he will be this awful with his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8%. 8 fucking percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Doesn't apply to everyone but does to some Chelsea fans: Morata before December: Good player. Glad we never paid 75M for Lukaku. Morata after December: New Torres/worse than Batshuayi, needs to be upgraded on. Make your minds up eh? It's absolutely pathetic and shows how knee-jerk fans are. No loyalty at all. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 He's a really good player but he really needs to improve in front of goal. Some of the shit i'm reading here is totally insane and really just out of order. Stop acting like he hasn't already contributed a lot this season OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 On 30. 12. 2017. at 6:03 PM, Jason said: His feet. HIS FEET. Oh god. Wanted to post this since last week, now I remembered. Jase, kellzfresh and Laylabelle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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