Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 4 hours ago, oldportblue said: according to some french twitter accounts, he has been spotted wearing a Chelsea kit several times throughout the years: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So he will join the club he has always loved just like Lu... Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 As things stand, it's between both Manchester Clubs for the title. We will be fighting for 4th spot judging by the eay things are going.When and where did I hear something similar? Oh that's right, deadline month and day last season from every other poster around here. Maybe people should start recycling their posts from a year ago. And I'm not only criticizing lack of faith and the team proving anyone wrong, me included, but mainly the same assumption that Manchester clubs would dominate. I saw how dominant they were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,985 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Barbara said: When and where did I hear something similar? Oh that's right, deadline month and day last season from every other poster around here. Maybe people should start recycling their posts from a year ago. And I'm not only criticizing lack of faith and the team proving anyone wrong, me included, but mainly the same assumption that Manchester clubs would dominate. I saw how dominant they were... But this year both the Manchester clubs have far stronger squads. Pep has had a full season to feel what it's like to manage in the PL. Surely he will mount a better challange for the title this season with the additions they have made. Whilst Jose is notorious for having a great season in his second season at nearly every club he has managed at. They have strengthened their squad too by cutting lose dead wood (Rooney) and brining in Lukaku, Matic and another CB. You feel their transfer business isn't over yet either. Last year United went into the season with a weak squad and City needed a lot of work being done there. Now I know you can say the same about us too given the previous season where we finished 10th but Conte worked wonders and we were very lucky to have Costa playing in the form of his life and Kante coming of the back of a PL title winning season himself. Also Eden was back to his best. Plus we were lucky in the injury department. I know you should never judge on pre-season games but I have watched both Manchester clubs and there is something about them that looks dangerous. A lot more fluidity to Uniteds game for sure. City, if they start strongly, they will be hard to challange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 The thing is both manchester clubs made a really good summer transfers and strengthen their teams even more, while Chelsea, one can say, that they even make their squad weaker after this summer. Also there is CL competition this year and rotations have to be made, the problem is that there aren't players for rotations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 The thing is both manchester clubs made a really good summer transfers and strengthen their teams even more, while Chelsea, one can say, that they even make their squad weaker after this summer. Also there is CL competition this year and rotations have to be made, the problem is that there aren't players for rotations... When was the last time they didn't? They spend big every window. When was the last time they were impressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_volrath 61 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 He prefers united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, sir_volrath said: He prefers united Well, can we blame him? United clearly have far bigger ambitions than Chelsea at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 539 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 He prefers united <_>How you know?Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Barbara said: When and where did I hear something similar? Oh that's right, deadline month and day last season from every other poster around here. Maybe people should start recycling their posts from a year ago. And I'm not only criticizing lack of faith and the team proving anyone wrong, me included, but mainly the same assumption that Manchester clubs would dominate. I saw how dominant they were... It's crazy talk isn't it. Oh let's all talk hypotheticals because of what? Absolutely nothing. There's no proof whatsoever to say Utd or City will win the league apart from a decent pre-season. Over the course of a season anything can happen. I would rather not speculate. Nobody expected Leicester to win the league, and nobody expected us to the win the league last year. I have no doubt it will be tougher with the extra fixtures from CL, but it's the same for every club with added fixtures and just as much chance as us of injuries. People just enjoy being pessimistic, negative and overly dramatic in general. I would prefer not to talk in ifs, buts and maybes because nobody knows until the season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, King11Didier said: The thing is both manchester clubs made a really good summer transfers and strengthen their teams even more, while Chelsea, one can say, that they even make their squad weaker after this summer. Also there is CL competition this year and rotations have to be made, the problem is that there aren't players for rotations... Really? How have Utd strengthened? I would argue Ibrahimovic saved them last year from worse than 6th place with his goals. They have bought Lukaku who may or may not score as many goals as people are saying he will. They bought unknown in Lindelof and Matic, who you could argue has had his best days. They finished last season in 6th with pretty much the same squad. Who have they bought this summer that you can look at and call a game changer? Matic isn't a game changer, neither is lindelof, and you can argue what does Lukaku bring much different than Ibrahimovic apart from youth? I think he's inferior to a 34 year old Ibrahimovic in almost all areas except pace and youth. City have bought B.Silva who was part of a very good Monaco side, but it's fair to say he and Mendy are both unknown quantities. Walker is a good player, but has his faults, and Danilo I don't know much about. They have upgraded their keeper, but that's about it. What makes them any different than last year? Pep will still continue to be stubborn in his tactics, which is obvious by his purchases this summer. City are arguably one of the stronger squads in the league in terms of quality, but they've also shown to be a team of mercenaries, not a TEAM who will fight together as one. I, for one, am certainly not overly concerned about City adding Mendy, Silva, Walker and a Keeper because apart from Walker they've not shown anything out of the ordinary to suggest they will be special game changing talents. However, I could say the same for us with Rudiger, Morata and Bakayoko, so again, it's all just speculation. We won the league last year though, and this summer we've brought in players of very good quality. It isn't us who need to worry, it's our opponents who need to strengthen to do better than us in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Cosmin said: Well, can we blame him? United clearly have far bigger ambitions than Chelsea at this point. If that's true then how comes they haven't won a league title since 2012/13? Yet we've won the CL, EL, and 2 premier league titles in that time. I think I know who is more ambitious. Your talking out your arse like a few posters here, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Psg need to balance their books after signing Neymar why don't we put in £50m combo bid for krychowiak and aurier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadistChicken 143 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Psg need to balance their books after signing Neymar why don't we put in £50m combo bid for krychowiak and aurier Give them 60m cause we are desperateLolSent from my ONEPLUS A3010 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 55 minutes ago, the wes said: Psg need to balance their books after signing Neymar why don't we put in £50m combo bid for krychowiak and aurier Makes too much sense pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 59 minutes ago, the wes said: Psg need to balance their books after signing Neymar why don't we put in £50m combo bid for krychowiak and aurier Didn't Krychowiak have a poor season at PSG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, It's too big said: If that's true then how comes they haven't won a league title since 2012/13? Yet we've won the CL, EL, and 2 premier league titles in that time. I think I know who is more ambitious. Your talking out your arse like a few posters here, unfortunately. Ambition is something that you have about your future, not your past. Look at how United are building. They are giving their manager whatever he wants. They spent almost 200m on Pogba and Lukaku, two of the most promising players in the world. They covered almost all of the flaws. They managed not to sell De Gea, arguably the best GK in the world at the moment. In the meantime, the champions (us) are losing out on almost all of their main targets (last summer and this summer). No Koulibaly, no Sandro. A lot of reports claim that we have a 30m, give or take, barrier when it comes to transfer fees. As much as I hate United and I despise Mourinho, I have to admit that Jose has a lot more benefits there than Conte has here. The recent success is not an argument for ambition. The actions for the future are arguments. Why would Aurier care that we won a lot of trophies since United's last EPL win? That's like saying that Arsenal are more attractive than City because they have won two throphies in the past two months. Our board needs to start getting the job done again with at least one big, expensive signing in order to make a point. Morata doesn't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Cosmin said: Ambition is something that you have about your future, not your past. Look at how United are building. They are giving their manager whatever he wants. They spent almost 200m on Pogba and Lukaku, two of the most promising players in the world. They covered almost all of the flaws. They managed not to sell De Gea, arguably the best GK in the world at the moment. In the meantime, the champions (us) are losing out on almost all of their main targets (last summer and this summer). No Koulibaly, no Sandro. A lot of reports claim that we have a 30m, give or take, barrier when it comes to transfer fees. As much as I hate United and I despise Mourinho, I have to admit that Jose has a lot more benefits there than Conte has here. The recent success is not an argument for ambition. The actions for the future are arguments. Why would Aurier care that we won a lot of trophies since United's last EPL win? That's like saying that Arsenal are more attractive than City because they have won two throphies in the past two months. Our board needs to start getting the job done again with at least one big, expensive signing in order to make a point. Morata doesn't cut it. You do realise how rich Utd are? They are basically offering massive wages. Why else would a player go there? Think about it. We can't offer the wages Utd or City can in all honesty. The fact they continue to spend big and win naff all just shows that throwing money at problem isn't always going to solve it. Pogba doesn't offer enough to warrant the price/wages he brings. You think Pogba would have still gone to Utd if they offered him 100k a week? What about Lukaku? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 according to this paris "insider" account, he prefers MU and has a deal with them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, the wes said: Psg need to balance their books after signing Neymar why don't we put in £50m combo bid for krychowiak and aurier Balance their books? LOL, there are reports that they're still after Mbappe and Alexis even after the ridiculous Neymar purchase. They don't give a shit about FFP and apparently neither do the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 31 minutes ago, It's too big said: You do realise how rich Utd are? They are basically offering massive wages. Why else would a player go there? Think about it. We can't offer the wages Utd or City can in all honesty. The fact they continue to spend big and win naff all just shows that throwing money at problem isn't always going to solve it. Pogba doesn't offer enough to warrant the price/wages he brings. You think Pogba would have still gone to Utd if they offered him 100k a week? What about Lukaku? I really can't see the point that you're trying to make, honestly. It feels like you're trying to defend our board, not to offer arguments why Aurier should pick us and not United. Yeah, I agree, the fact is that United ARE rich, OFFER bigger wages and SIGN some great prospects. This is what any footballer cares about, not Chelsea's financial health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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