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1 hour ago, Jason said:

I'm 50-50 on seeing Luiz in midfield again but I would think that's an option Conte might be considering if we're going to sign Van Dijk. Gives him option to shift things around. Otherwise, that signing would be rather pointless.

Did I say that Conte being admirer of Drinkwater meant he had to be signed first over anyone else? No. All I said was, if Conte really wanted him, which is what Jim White seemed to be alluding to, then we would have gone for him a lot earlier or at least heard about this interest some time ago. Why this only appear now? If I'm being skeptical, signing Drinkwater is the club's idea and they have leaked out info to the press to make it look as if it's a Conte signing and not theirs.

Also not making the move earlier until we sold Matic is plain silly. We already knew early last month that Matic wasn't going to be part of Conte's plan and was going to be sold. We should have bought his replacement in sooner and if we had been smart, we would have done that. Get the wanted played in, then sell the unwanted player. We would be in a good situation then. Instead, we have left ourselves in a situation where everyone knows we need another midfielder and other clubs will try milk as much money as possible for us, especially when we're only 3 weeks away from the end of the transfer window. If the worst situation had happened and Matic's move broke down after signing Drinkwater, we would have 5 midfielders and that's not a bad thing is it with Conte talking about the lack of squad depth?

Last season, we were fortunate to survive with only 3 midfielders plus a few backups in Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek. This season, we will likely be less fortunate, will play more games and the backups are already gone. Conte isn't deluded to think we can survive with only 3 midfielders again.

I didn't say that we have enough CMs but that there is no reason to rush to sign another CM. Bakayoko,Kante,Fabregas,Baker and another CM would be more than good enough.

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

Are we supposed to believe Conte is a big admirer of Drinkwater all of a sudden? If he was, we would have gone out to sign him a lot earlier rather than wait till now!

This Van Dijk interest doesn't make sense either. Why would we need another CB? Only reason I can think of is we are failing to sign other targets and so, we get Van Dijk and start shifting players into other positions (e.g. Luiz into midfield or Azpi to RWB).

I hope you realize it does not make any sense. So the fact Conte didnt sign Water earlier is a proof he is not admirer. Its like Conte is in a position that he can basically will buy every player in the world he admires as soon as he admires then.

Jesus...

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1 minute ago, Henrique said:

I hope you realize it does not make any sense. So the fact Conte didnt sign Water earlier is a proof he is not admirer. Its like Conte is in a position that he can basically will buy every player in the world he admires as soon as he admires then.

Jesus...

Not my fault if you can't understand it...

4 hours ago, Jason said:

if Conte really wanted him, which is what Jim White seemed to be alluding to, then we would have gone for him a lot earlier or at least heard about this interest some time ago. Why this only appear now?

 

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Considering that we got owned like bitches for every danm fullback in the market, now I hope we sign Van Dijk and have the following:

LB: Alonso

RB: Moses, Azpi

CB: Cahill, Luiz, Rudiger, Van Dijk, Christensen

That's 8 players for 5 active positions in our lineup. Not bad.

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Waste of money. 

Keep our back line the same and upgrade the wingback positions. Then next year finally sign another WC attacker and we are ready to be a world class club. 

Spending 50m for a marginal upgrade won't get us anywhere. Esspcially after spending 30m in Rodiger. 

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21 hours ago, Jason said:

I say that Conte being admirer of Drinkwater meant he had to be signed first over anyone else? No. All I said was, if Conte really wanted him, which is what Jim White seemed to be alluding to, then we would have gone for him a lot earlier or at least heard about this interest some time ago.

No. No you would not necessarily have heard of it already. I also think it's silly to think Chelsea have not already had contact with Drinkwaters agent and Leicester, even if the press did not know about it, and the bids hadn't started officially until now.

 

 

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It frustrates me that we are always looking to improve our defense and midfield, but do not give a crap about the talent up front. We keep relying on Hazard and on players who already reached their pottential (Willian, Pedro).

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32 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

It frustrates me that we are always looking to improve our defense and midfield, but do not give a crap about the talent up front. We keep relying on Hazard and on players who already reached their pottential (Willian, Pedro).

I think it is simply because we have a bigger need in midfield and wb area

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11 minutes ago, communicate said:

I think it is simply because we have a bigger need in midfield and wb area

Do we? Look at how this team looks when Hazard is not playing or when he's not in the best shape. The attacking wingers are mediocre and there is no alternative for Hazard.

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19 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

Do we? Look at how this team looks when Hazard is not playing or when he's not in the best shape. The attacking wingers are mediocre and there is no alternative for Hazard.

Of course we do. We don't have hazard yesterday but we still have willian, Musonda, Pedro. They are not close to hazard bu they are serviceable player.

But imagine if Alonso is inured, we have to Pedro there, he is not a wb or we play azpi there where he gave us 0 threat going forward. 

And like yesterday bakayoko is injured. We have to play cesc + Kante against big side and it was a disaster. 

It was obvious we need wb + 1 mid

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1 minute ago, communicate said:

Of course we do. We don't have hazard yesterday but we still have willian, Musonda, Pedro. They are not close to hazard bu they are serviceable player.

But imagine if Alonso is inured, we have to Pedro there, he is not a wb or we play azpi there where he gave us 0 threat going forward. 

And like yesterday bakayoko is injured. We have to play cesc + Kante against big side and it was a disaster. 

It was obvious we need wb + 1 mid

I agree, but my point is that we are making efforts to bring reinforcements when it comes to WB and midflienders, but there's nothing being done about Hazard's alternative or the attacking wingers. Yes, we do have Willian and Pedro, but these guys (with all due respect) would be bench warmers at Europe's top clubs. Musonda's not really an option when you are aiming for UCL and EPL glory. He's one for the future, but can't count on Charly Musonda to take you to the UCL semi-finals.

 

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6 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

I agree, but my point is that we are making efforts to bring reinforcements when it comes to WB and midflienders, but there's nothing being done about Hazard's alternative or the attacking wingers. Yes, we do have Willian and Pedro, but these guys (with all due respect) would be bench warmers at Europe's top clubs. Musonda's not really an option when you are aiming for UCL and EPL glory. He's one for the future, but can't count on Charly Musonda to take you to the UCL semi-finals.

 

Because those positions are the priority, we don't have unlimited transfer fund. If you use the money to sign a quality winger, we won't have any money left to sign wb + 1 cm. 

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27 minutes ago, communicate said:

Because those positions are the priority

That is my problem. Why is paying 60m for Van Dijk (a central defender, where you actually have plenty of options) a priority when your creativity is absolutely ruined if Hazard's not available?

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4 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

That is my problem. Why is paying 60m for Van Dijk (a central defender, where you actually have plenty of options) a priority when your creativity is absolutely ruined if Hazard's not available?

Nah va djik is just rumors. I don't see any truth in it

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