Puliiszola 519 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 @King Kante Still think he is "not a bad LB2"? For the amount of stick you and others gave me, this really has not matured well, has it? Â killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: @King Kante Still think he is "not a bad LB2"? For the amount of stick you and others gave me, this really has not matured well, has it?  No, I still do not think he is a bad LB2. I take him for what he is. I accept days like today as I also know there are days when he pulls a Tottenham, Bornemouth or Newcastle. Further, I am glad you quoted me from the SR thread. I say this because, there I clearly outlined other areas we needed to upgrade before LB2 (which I still maintain) and that we wouldn't be able to sell the players you listed easily for fees. So, really that post has aged ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, King Kante said: No, I still do not think he is a bad LB2. I take him for what he is. I accept days like today as I also know there are days when he pulls a Tottenham, Bornemouth or Newcastle. Days like today? Are you kidding. How many more points is he going to cost? I would take a half decent LB who does not win us the odd game, rather than alonso who ALWAYS screws up every time he takes the pitch. Wba is going to be in relegation, the number of games that they score 2 goals, you could count on a hand, forget about 3. Also what is alonso's massively famous goals? How many goals does he have compared to an average PL Lb? He is shit. Anyone with half a brain can see it. Forget 15-20 games, he should never be taking the bloody pitch for us again. killer1257 and ja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 If he would score like 10 goals per season and maybe ship 5 or 6 (like Gosens e.g.)I would be like fair enough, alright squad player with decent offensive nous. But he scores every blue moon and ships a goal almost every game. Emerson is bang average at best but I can’t remember him being as shit as Alonso has been for quite some time now . Neither are good enough. Both should be gone. Really feel like a broken record having been saying this for ages now. We need another LB as I think Castillo and Maatsen are nothing special either people keep saying against bottom half opposition Alonso is enough but he clearly is not. We won’t get away with him in games even vs shit sides. He simply doesn’t cut it at top level. Puliiszola, Alabama and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, King Kante said: No, I still do not think he is a bad LB2. I take him for what he is. I accept days like today as I also know there are days when he pulls a Tottenham, Bornemouth or Newcastle. Further, I am glad you quoted me from the SR thread. I say this because, there I clearly outlined other areas we needed to upgrade before LB2 (which I still maintain) and that we wouldn't be able to sell the players you listed easily for fees. So, really that post has aged ok. Actually we are not looking to sell. If we wanted to, we could at a cut price and balance our books to a degree. But with FFP monitoring period changing and 2019-20 and 2020-21 getting clubbed together, we are not in trouble. The hazard sale, luiz, kalas, aina, hector, lamptey etc really set us well ahead of the FFP limitations. We don't NEED to sell to make it work for FFP. Lastly, clearly, it's not. Lb has already cost us 2 points this season. If chilwell, gets a minor injury with 1 month out, that would be the difference between 70 or 80 point season. That would be the difference between a "decent progressive season" or a "don't see progress, get a sack" season. At the end of the day, you can't have a championship level player playing a decent amount of time without it costing you dearly. Alonso is shit, if he plays 15 PL games, we won't get top4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 my mates a Sunderland fan, he said he would be fuming if they went for him Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Special Juan said: my mates a Sunderland fan, he said he would be fuming if they went for him Nah. He ain't bad. Remember he once scored against spurs, so all is well. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: Nah. He ain't bad. Remember he once scored against spurs, so all is well. 😂😂 Hes not bad he's just not good enough lol Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: Hes not bad he's just not good enough lol He really is bad. Worse than bad. Just shocking. Completely useless in attack 90% of the time bc he has no pace to get past a player even with a head start, cant cross, cant dribble bc lack of pace just passes the ball backwards every time. cant win a tackle to save his life. he gets targeted by every oppositon even westbrom Puliiszola, ja1 and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: He really is bad. Worse than bad. Just shocking. Completely useless in attack 90% of the time bc he has no pace to get past a player even with a head start, cant cross, cant dribble bc lack of pace just passes the ball backwards every time. cant win a tackle to save his life. he gets targeted by every oppositon even westbrom 100% agreed but I guarantee you in any other league he thrives, just not here he needs to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Remember that moment in the first half when I believe it was one of the West Brom defenders (or midfielders) who knocked the ball past Alonso from some yards back and managed to run past him? That was so ugly to watch! Alabama and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Seen him getting out run again tonight and trying to sprint? embarrassing because he isn't fast and it was actually quite funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Remember that moment in the first half when I believe it was one of the West Brom defenders (or midfielders) who knocked the ball past Alonso from some yards back and managed to run past him? That was so ugly to watch! I screamed about it in the match thread. A big, lumbering CB was about 10 yards behind him and Marcos had already started sprinting and he still ran past him with ease! Alonso looked like a 60 year old man in that instance. Shocking. kellzfresh and Jase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 He might leave Chelsea because Lampard is furious with him. Alonso went to the team bus instead of going to the bench after half time Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Like Kepa should never play again for us. Alabama, Vesper and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, killer1257 said: He might leave Chelsea because Lampard us furious with him. Alonso went to the team bus instead of going to the bench after half time Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  Though am not happy about the situation but would say karma on Lampard for trusting Alonso that much... Alonso is a turd...should never play for us again...together with Kepa let them go back to Spanish league... Vesper, killer1257 and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Not happy with how this blew up but fair enough from Lampard. Coaches don't take behaviour like this. Everyone in the squad were in shock after the first half, even Lampard must have been seething. I see no issue with that emotion coming out at the end with Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Even if it is Alonso a boss should never humiliate an employee in public even if they deserve it. That being said I really hope Alonso leaves. But if this story is true it must stay an exception otherwise FL will be a dead man walking lieb Mourinho if he creates a toxic atmosphere and he has been looking grumpy for quite some time now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, Alabama said: Though am not happy about the situation but would say karma on Lampard for trusting Alonso that much... Alonso is a turd...should never play for us again...together with Kepa let them go back to Spanish league... Then what should we do? We know what we are getting from both Alonso and Emerson. Two LB's who are clearly not good enough and are prone to defensive errors. Do we then chuck Dave there and completely null that left side's width, which has proved to be equally as frusturating? I really don't understand the logic here. Fact of the matter is, we have no 'good' option for that left side until Chilwell. Personally, I'm glad Lampard threw him under the bus. A player with his experience, should not be prone to these errors over and over again. But then again, we already know what we are getting.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Even if it is Alonso a boss should never humiliate an employee in public even if they deserve it. That being said I really hope Alonso leaves. But if this story is true it must stay an exception otherwise FL will be a dead man walking lieb Mourinho if he creates a toxic atmosphere and he has been looking grumpy for quite some time now He is under pressure and he knows it, I feel for him I really do. His love and passion may have scewed his judgement taking on such a job and rebuild.....I hope he pulls through. Sad day if FL gets sacked. kellzfresh, killer1257 and MoroccanBlue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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