!Hazard! 3,394 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, ja1 said: I think there's weight behind the semi serious theory of playing Alonso as a striker. Critically evaluating him, what's he actually good at. Shooting, getting into goalscoring positions, he's ok aerially, and obviously free kicks. Nearly all traditional aspects of a wingback you want Alonso doesn't have. He can't dribble, he's slow, his crossing is poor, he doesn't progress play, he's shit in one on one duels defensively. I think you'd see a greater impact from Alonso in open play if he was more central hovering about the box in a CF position. He already does that when we're struggling for goals. I thought about this the other day. It would at least be a fun experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I think someone may buy this guy for a really good price. Just show them the statistics and get some serious money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Footballover 222 Posted January 29, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted January 29, 2018 What are you even talking about? Alonso is a very good footballer, he was amazing for us last year and continues to provide the goods this term, even, if rightly so, he is a little bit burned out. The man is working his socks off every single game for the last year and can't even get the sheer acknowledgment for that from our fans. I have no idea what are your expactations from a left wing back but all in all I can assure you there are not many better than this guy. I am really not sure if your beloved Alex Sandro is better than him this season. Anyway, you don't need a world class player in every position and I think our LWB position is the least of our problems. Alonso needs rest and needs competition, but he is a good player and gets no recognition for his great service at this club, and really I'm quite tired of seeing people bashing him after every game (like really, what wrong did he do yesterday? he was slow?). Some of you here even try to take the credit off his goals because he is a wing back (?!)... Somehow only Chelsea fans see all these wrongs... Amblève., robsblubot, YorkshireBlue and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 21/01/2018 at 7:42 PM, Sir Mikel OBE said: He's not likable at all honestly. Especially to anybody who has ever lost a loved one because of a drunk driving dickhead. He shows up with some goals, but liking?Nah. Not sure what that has to do with football, people make mistakes in life but it’s not like you know him personally is it? JT Wayne Bridge thing was the same. Bad what happened but ultimately a mistake and totally irrelevant on the pitch. As a footballer he’s committed and comes up with goals, sure he’s struggled this year but who hasn’t who played regularly last season? Moses? Cesc? Luiz? Willian? Pedro? He’s been playing every week this season, same as last year and has looked poor yes but until he gets some more adequate competition - Emerson hopefully - then he has to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Not sure what that has to do with football, people make mistakes in life but it’s not like you know him personally is it? JT Wayne Bridge thing was the same. Bad what happened but ultimately a mistake and totally irrelevant on the pitch. As a footballer he’s committed and comes up with goals, sure he’s struggled this year but who hasn’t who played regularly last season? Moses? Cesc? Luiz? Willian? Pedro? He’s been playing every week this season, same as last year and has looked poor yes but until he gets some more adequate competition - Emerson hopefully - then he has to play. JT slept with a mans ex. Not quite the same as getting drunk and driving is it? Especially when this sort of thing is beat into your head from the moment you get a license. It was "Bad" it was a crime, and he'd be in jail if he wasn't a rich footballer. He comes up with goals, but defensively he is slightly better than a Zappacosta, who also isnt good enough if we are being honest. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Not sure what that has to do with football, people make mistakes in life but it’s not like you know him personally is it? JT Wayne Bridge thing was the same. Did you just say killing a person and having sex with a teammate's ex is somehow just as bad? Sir Mikel OBE, ja1 and Essien19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, manpe said: Did you just say killing a person and having sex with a teammate's ex is somehow just as bad? No I meant both were obviously mistakes of different severity but when it comes to a football discussion, not sure why it’s brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: JT slept with a mans ex. Not quite the same as getting drunk and driving is it? Especially when this sort of thing is beat into your head from the moment you get a license. It was "Bad" it was a crime, and he'd be in jail if he wasn't a rich footballer. He comes up with goals, but defensively he is slightly better than a Zappacosta, who also isnt good enough if we are being honest. Rich anything rather - being a footballer has little to do with it. He wasn't that famous either. I'm mostly against current DUI laws, because what precisely is being criminalized by DUI laws? The wrong substance in your blood while driving? (others are allowed) This is a long discussion, but even the statistics used to promote DUI laws have all causality incorrectly assessed. One thing I can guarantee is that law enforcement (as well as lawyers) all over the world, is really concerned about driverless cars. Uber already ate into DUI by a lot, driverless cars will just put an end to it. With that long caveat out of the way, in the case of Alonso, the DUI law makes perfect sense because he committed a crime. His alcohol impairment (many diff things can impair human beings enough to disrupt driving) contributed to causing a fatal accident, hence the criminalization makes sense. Of course being rich always makes you appear less "impaired" to society.... Now back to football I think TC fans have the team they deserve: a key player who does not score a lot. A striker who does not score much and an overall squad with few goal scorers. After all, the one player who keeps on scoring important goals for us is constantly criticized for having the same characteristics he always had before we signed him. And after all he just scores lots of important goals, which in football is not that important.... being a low scoring game, what's a goal anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Focus on Christensen but I also think Alonso was equally culpable for the goal yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not aware of his man and like the space cadet he is got caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Unfortunately not for the first time this season. There have been way more moments like that before. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Seriously, it doesn't matter how many times you watch the goal it gets worse and worse, he isn't even aware he's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted March 16, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2018 First call up to the National team, proud of him and well deserved. Doesn't get near the credit he deserves on here. Amblève., OneMoSalah, Johnnyeye and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 30/01/2018 at 4:50 AM, Footballover said: What are you even talking about? Alonso is a very good footballer, he was amazing for us last year and continues to provide the goods this term, even, if rightly so, he is a little bit burned out. The man is working his socks off every single game for the last year and can't even get the sheer acknowledgment for that from our fans. I have no idea what are your expactations from a left wing back but all in all I can assure you there are not many better than this guy. I am really not sure if your beloved Alex Sandro is better than him this season. Anyway, you don't need a world class player in every position and I think our LWB position is the least of our problems. Alonso needs rest and needs competition, but he is a good player and gets no recognition for his great service at this club, and really I'm quite tired of seeing people bashing him after every game (like really, what wrong did he do yesterday? he was slow?). Some of you here even try to take the credit off his goals because he is a wing back (?!)... Somehow only Chelsea fans see all these wrongs... Nobody has ever downplayed his commitment, just his ability to be a LWB. The basic requisites for a LWB for me are Good crossing, speed, Defensive ability, tracking back etc. Alonso isn't too good in Defensive positions, and neither has the speed or agility to be a wing back, the goals and his attacking vision are a great thing to have obviously, but this really shouldn't mask his other inabilities. Of course you don't need to have a World class player in every position, but you do need someone who'll atleast fit into the position, and his abilities qualify him more as a poacher rather than a wing back. ja1, The Skipper and jernej93 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 hada decent game yesterday he kept mahrez quiet most of the game NiclasCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Manchester United 'plan raid on Chelsea for Marcos Alonso' as Jose Mourinho eyes defensive reinforcements https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-plan-raid-chelsea-12211642.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 If we sold him and finally got to replace with Sandro we're laughing nathangeorge99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, the wes said: Manchester United 'plan raid on Chelsea for Marcos Alonso' as Jose Mourinho eyes defensive reinforcements https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-plan-raid-chelsea-12211642.amp Yeah...and he'll turn Alonso into the Ivanovic of Man United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Not sure what he has to do to get some credit. People talking about letting us sell him to United but he was very solid v Leicester. Called up for Spain too. No mean feat considering the options they could call up. Throw in the fact he has 6 PL goals this season too. Amblève., Stats and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 People will never get over the fact that he isn't the typical wingback you would grow in a lab if you could. Alonso's unorthodox and so are his defensive mistakes for a LWB but he makes up for it in areas in which other wingbacks/fullbacks constantly fail; for example, his lack of pace will cause him troubles that your standard LWB doesn't have but on the other hand Alonso has great concentration and anticipation and almost always shows those qualities in 1-vs-1 situations where most wingbacks and fullbacks would overcommit early and have to rely on their recovery as the majority of classic wingbacks and fullbacks does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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