🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Tammy Abraham

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

He is nowhere near good enough to be a Chelsea striker. Lampard better play Michy moving forward. He will cost us massive games. Needs to go back to the championship.

[LAM09 7,056]

He is nowhere near good enough to be a Chelsea striker. He will cost us massive games. Needs to go back to the championship.

He is Bamford #2 to me. People were cutting him slack at Swansea, but Jordan Ayew managed to score more than him for starters.

 

Not enough of a tell tell?

 

Lampard better play Michy moving forward. He will cost us massive games.

 

If he isn't in the squad against Leicester, he's certainly off.

[Vesper 30,184]

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=33296

 

@gapalaiye : ''It was Lukaku 6yrs ago against B/Munich naw it's Tammy Abraham another Lukaku in d making, despite d UEAF Ban, Super Frankie has proven him self as a quality Manager''.

@chpmnkalvin : ''Like 2013, Tammy Abraham does a Romelu Lukaku in 2019 after a 2-2 after extra time in both matches''.

@fabuloustohlu : ''Tammy Abraham 2019 = Romelu Lukaku 2013''.

@knngtee : ''Tammy Abraham did a Lukaku on me''.

@iz__jhoe : ''Tammy Abraham pulled a Lukaku''.

@raedrey15 : ''I saw it coming......Tammy Abraham should just go on loan like Lukaku did.''

@Ralpharmony : ''Tammy Abraham took his PK off Romelu Lukaku's playbook. Exactly how Lukaku did it in our last #supercupfinal appearance. You just feel like he doesn't realise he's on the big stage yet.Boy. We were sooo close.I'm impressed by my team anyways''.

@opash82 : ''Tammy Abraham pulling a Lukaku on that one''.

@omojojo : ''Another lukaku in Tammy Abraham! He was too nervous''.

@BabajideJames : ''It was Lukaku in 2013; it's Tammy Abraham in 2019 - both after a pulsating 2-2 draw after ET. Heartbreaking defeat after a brilliant performance across board by the @Chelsea''. 

@m0n_Des : ''Tammy Abraham, Lukaku reborn''.

@OdianosenEtomi : ''Tammy Abraham. Just like Romelu Lukaku 6 years ago.''

@footiedami : ''Tammy Abraham misses the crucial PK for Chelsea just like Romelu Lukaku in 2013. Dejavu #uefasupercup2019''.

@hashtagtega : ''Romelu Lukaku incarnate.... Tammy Abraham''.

@iam_bussie : ''Saw tammy abraham and this lukaku moment came to mind. Chelsea De javu?''

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=33296

 

@gapalaiye : ''It was Lukaku 6yrs ago against B/Munich naw it's Tammy Abraham another Lukaku in d making, despite d UEAF Ban, Super Frankie has proven him self as a quality Manager''.

@chpmnkalvin : ''Like 2013, Tammy Abraham does a Romelu Lukaku in 2019 after a 2-2 after extra time in both matches''.

@fabuloustohlu : ''Tammy Abraham 2019 = Romelu Lukaku 2013''.

@knngtee : ''Tammy Abraham did a Lukaku on me''.

@iz__jhoe : ''Tammy Abraham pulled a Lukaku''.

@raedrey15 : ''I saw it coming......Tammy Abraham should just go on loan like Lukaku did.''

@Ralpharmony : ''Tammy Abraham took his PK off Romelu Lukaku's playbook. Exactly how Lukaku did it in our last #supercupfinal appearance. You just feel like he doesn't realise he's on the big stage yet.Boy. We were sooo close.I'm impressed by my team anyways''.

@opash82 : ''Tammy Abraham pulling a Lukaku on that one''.

@omojojo : ''Another lukaku in Tammy Abraham! He was too nervous''.

@BabajideJames : ''It was Lukaku in 2013; it's Tammy Abraham in 2019 - both after a pulsating 2-2 draw after ET. Heartbreaking defeat after a brilliant performance across board by the @Chelsea''. 

@m0n_Des : ''Tammy Abraham, Lukaku reborn''.

@OdianosenEtomi : ''Tammy Abraham. Just like Romelu Lukaku 6 years ago.''

@footiedami : ''Tammy Abraham misses the crucial PK for Chelsea just like Romelu Lukaku in 2013. Dejavu #uefasupercup2019''.

@hashtagtega : ''Romelu Lukaku incarnate.... Tammy Abraham''.

@iam_bussie : ''Saw tammy abraham and this lukaku moment came to mind. Chelsea De javu?''

yup deja vu  

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

Just now, Johnnyeye said:

yup deja vu  

I called it before penalty shoutout. 

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

9 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

He is Bamford #2 to me. People were cutting him slack at Swansea, but Jordan Ayew managed to score more than him for starters.

 

Not enough of a tell tell?

 

 

 

If he isn't in the squad against Leicester, he's certainly off.

He wont even start for a mid table team let alone a team with Chelsea's ambitions. 

[LAM09 7,056]

He wont even start for a mid table team let alone a team with Chelsea's ambitions. 

Wolves did show interest surprisingly. The chance was there was £20-25m.

[Fernando 6,585]

After all the money we spent on strikers is best he continues getting games. 

In the summer or January try to get mbappe if possible or just get zaha. 

The strikers market is so horrible to be fair. Not that many quality strikers. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Can you lot stop shitting on every player after two games?

He maybe or maybe not good enough but at least give them 6 months first and stop with these kneejerk reactions.

[LAM09 7,056]

Can you lot stop shitting on every player after two games?
He maybe or maybe not good enough but at least give them 6 months first and stop with these kneejerk reactions.

He had his twelve months at Swansea. I'm all for being diplomatic when needed, but it's time to call it how it is; 12 weeks, 12 months or 12 years aren't going to change the obvious fundamentals.

Why are you writing something in Michy's topic BTW?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

He had his twelve months at Swansea. I'm all for being diplomatic when needed, but it's time to call it how it is; 12 weeks, 12 months or 12 years aren't going to change the obvious fundamentals.

Why are you writing something in Michy's topic BTW?

I think he should be given time here, same goes for others.

 

What did I write in Michys topic?

[LAM09 7,056]

I think he should be given time here, same goes for others.
 
What did I write in Michys topic?

Off the bench or as third choice, possibly.

I was asking you a question. Michy is the better CF with actual goals at the top level, yet is sitting behind him. Why not give him "time" to prove his worth?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Man or mouse. When Rashford made his debut he scored two goals, never looked back since. You either have it or you dont that swagger that unfaltering confidence that badass attitude that killer instinct. That penalty is the one moment you look forward to since you are a boy and there is only one thing you can do. Strike it with conviction in a sensible direction. Stand up and be counted. Tammy did not in any way give the Impression that he was up to the occasion. He is not ready and will never be. If it had been a good pen and Adrian had pulled out a great save then fair play. But the tame pathetic way he shot it gave away who he truly is. No Chelsea material. 

He might become a better player, he might become a regular goalscorer or an allround forward. But he will never be a world class striker. 

[1905didierblue 748]

The arm chair pundits are really giving it to Tammy. Let's forget that his overall play is far better than any striker's we have seen since Costa, or the fact that he scored 25+ goals last season, but it only takes some geniuses on here to judge him in 2 games. What's worse is these will be the same people cribbing, crying and moaning their shit out over "we have no youth". 

2 games against 2 top opposition's, and he gave a decent account of himself. He will be fine. 

[LAM09 7,056]

 

 

 

 

The arm chair pundits are really giving it to Tammy. Let's forget that his overall play is far better than any striker's we have seen since Costa, or the fact that he scored 25+ goals last season, but it only takes some geniuses on here to judge him in 2 games. What's worse is these will be the same people cribbing, crying and moaning their shit out over "we have no youth".  2 games against 2 top opposition's, and he gave a decent account of himself. He will be fine. 

 

 

Bamford had similar numbers at Middlesbrough.... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/leistungsdaten/spieler/183334/plus/0?saison=2014

 

It's normally best to call people out if you have an issue instead of indirectly slagging them off.

 

 

 

[1905didierblue 748]

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bamford had similar numbers at Middlesbrough.... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/leistungsdaten/spieler/183334/plus/0?saison=2014

 

It's normally best to call people out if you have an issue instead of indirectly slagging them off.

 

 

 

In that case, we should NEVER ever give any good young striker a chance, because at a certain point in time, bamford had a good season too, right?

If I directly quote the number of people already writing Tammy off, it would be half the forum. But let's not forget, it was the same number of people who had written RLC off. Or believed in the Oscar hype and written kdb off etc etc. Some people even have a next summer Target list already, after 1 game of this season. 

Irrespective, the point I am making is simple. Give him a chance. Tammy won't be the first striker to not score in a back to back debut games against United and pool. Let's judge him when we have a decent sample size. 

Let's trust in Frank and his judgement. So far (despite) the 2 losses, we have played better football than any of the previous multiple title winning managers had managed us to play. And this is without a top-5 in the world attacker that Frank is missing while those guys had. So I feel that he knows what he is doing, and let's get behind him.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

25 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

The arm chair pundits are really giving it to Tammy. Let's forget that his overall play is far better than any striker's we have seen since Costa, or the fact that he scored 25+ goals last season, but it only takes some geniuses on here to judge him in 2 games. What's worse is these will be the same people cribbing, crying and moaning their shit out over "we have no youth". 

2 games against 2 top opposition's, and he gave a decent account of himself. He will be fine. 

You have understood nothing. It is not about his numbers. His numbers will be fine. He will finish his career with 100+ top flight goals. But nor for Chelsea. these chances he got today are the exact situations were players show their true colors on the big occasion. They are there to be seized by those who have what it takes. I dont blame Abraham. Most players will falter under that pressure. Only the great ones succeed. Cos that is what makes them great. Abraham is no such great player.

[LAM09 7,056]

In that case, we should NEVER ever give any good young striker a chance, because at a certain point in time, bamford had a good season too, right?

If I directly quote the number of people already writing Tammy off, it would be half the forum. But let's not forget, it was the same number of people who had written RLC off. Or believed in the Oscar hype and written kdb off etc etc. Some people even have a next summer Target list already, after 1 game of this season. 

Irrespective, the point I am making is simple. Give him a chance. Tammy won't be the first striker to not score in a back to back debut games against United and pool. Let's judge him when we have a decent sample size. 

Let's trust in Frank and his judgement. So far (despite) the 2 losses, we have played better football than any of the previous multiple title winning managers had managed us to play. And this is without a top-5 in the world attacker that Frank is missing while those guys had. So I feel that he knows what he is doing, and let's get behind him.

Age should have nothing to do with team selection IMO. I don't see everyone writing Mount off, as they can see a little something here and there to get behind unlike Tammy early doors.

 

 

Other youngsters have failed or been sold too early due to lack of opportunity, which clearly won't happen whilst Lampard is around (for better or worse).

 

 

Where's the uproar for Michy wasting away for no apparent reason?

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

4 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

In that case, we should NEVER ever give any good young striker a chance, because at a certain point in time, bamford had a good season too, right?

If I directly quote the number of people already writing Tammy off, it would be half the forum. But let's not forget, it was the same number of people who had written RLC off. Or believed in the Oscar hype and written kdb off etc etc. Some people even have a next summer Target list already, after 1 game of this season. 

Irrespective, the point I am making is simple. Give him a chance. Tammy won't be the first striker to not score in a back to back debut games against United and pool. Let's judge him when we have a decent sample size. 

Let's trust in Frank and his judgement. So far (despite) the 2 losses, we have played better football than any of the previous multiple title winning managers had managed us to play. And this is without a top-5 in the world attacker that Frank is missing while those guys had. So I feel that he knows what he is doing, and let's get behind him.

Generalizations like this do not quite work. I liked RLC from the get go because he always had the most important: technique

tammy does not, so even if he becomes a reliable striker in the future, his ceiling will be lower than someone like Cho for example. Very similar to lukaku in my view - who was also overrated around here.

good for you if you want to trust franks judgement right now based on very little. I think he is a work-in-progress the same way many of our younger players are.

frank is playing with fire here. As limited as giroud may be, he would've been more likely to score these goals Tammy consistently misses. Another few results like this and he will be facing a sack. Make no mistake, his stardom at the club, and even the ban situation will only buy him so much time as a manager.

[1905didierblue 748]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

You have understood nothing. It is not about his numbers. His numbers will be fine. He will finish his career with 100+ top flight goals. But nor for Chelsea. these chances he got today are the exact situations were players show their true colors on the big occasion. They are there to be seized by those who have what it takes. I dont blame Abraham. Most players will falter under that pressure. Only the great ones succeed. Cos that is what makes them great. Abraham is no such great player.

I can start my statement with the same line "you have understood nothing" too.

Didier was the greatest striker to play for this club. Do you remember his misses against Barca in the 2008-09 semis?

Judging a young striker based on 2 games against a top 4 PL competitor and the world's best team is what I am against.