The Conte Thread

[kmk108 1,186]

On 12/11/2016 at 3:44 PM, BoyBlue96 said:

This man does not deserve the FA vomiting on us with that point deduction bullshit. Would be an insult to what this man has done with and for us after the Arsenal game.

It's not going to happen, calm down.

[The Chels 2,502]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Think Simeone may taken Atletico as far as he could. Feels like this would be his last season at the club.

Yeah either this season or the next will be his last there, by the look of things.

[OneMoSalah 8,887]

9 hours ago, Leif said:

No offence intended (well, a little), but do realise deeply that some clowns on here wanted Stones & Simeone to lead us this season. The same clowns aren't posting anything about Simeone, because they only wanted him due to where Atletico ended up in the table, and the media reports. Who's watching Atletico consistently this season besides the couple of (admittedly not clowns) Griezmann fans? Shambolic manager in a shambolic league. Their players are incredible. They have some of the most talented players in world football. But they were as talented before his arrival. I'm so satisfied that things ended up how they did.

Ranieri won the league last season, should we go for him next? 

Simeone a shambolic manager?

He took Atletico from a team that normally finished way off the title to league champions (most two sided league in world or was), won copa del rey, won europa league, won UEFA super cup, won Supercopa de Espana and got to 2x CL finals... all in 5 seasons. Shambolic yeah? He's probably taken them as far as anybody can take them without having £150m to spunk each year on world class talent like Barca or Real do, he's definitely overachieved there and that's mainly due to him and his coaching, they are probably the toughest team we've faced up bar Peps record shattering Barca and the Bayern team in 2012 (they absolutely battered us at times). He's also been La Liga coach of the year 3 times in 5 years so there it is it confirms he is definitely a shambolic coach.

Him and Conte are more similar than you'd think, two ex players who were captains and club legends who rebuilt their clubs (Atletico & Juventus) very successfully, who have an emphasis on hard work, discipline and organisation/structure although Simeones work at Atletico is more impressive than Contes at Juventus, because he never had both Barcelona or Real Madrid in his league.

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Simeone a shambolic manager?

He took Atletico from a team that normally finished way off the title to league champions (most two sided league in world or was), won copa del rey, won europa league, won UEFA super cup, won Supercopa de Espana and got to 2x CL finals... all in 5 seasons. Shambolic yeah? He's probably taken them as far as anybody can take them without having £150m to spunk each year on world class talent like Barca or Real do, he's definitely overachieved there and that's mainly due to him and his coaching, they are probably the toughest team we've faced up bar Peps record shattering Barca and the Bayern team in 2012 (they absolutely battered us at times). He's also been La Liga coach of the year 3 times in 5 years so there it is it confirms he is definitely a shambolic coach.

Him and Conte are more similar than you'd think, two ex players who were captains and club legends who rebuilt their clubs (Atletico & Juventus) very successfully, who have an emphasis on hard work, discipline and organisation/structure although Simeones work at Atletico is more impressive than Contes at Juventus, because he never had both Barcelona or Real Madrid in his league.

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Simeone a shambolic manager?

He took Atletico from a team that normally finished way off the title to league champions (most two sided league in world or was), won copa del rey, won europa league, won UEFA super cup, won Supercopa de Espana and got to 2x CL finals... all in 5 seasons. Shambolic yeah? He's probably taken them as far as anybody can take them without having £150m to spunk each year on world class talent like Barca or Real do, he's definitely overachieved there and that's mainly due to him and his coaching, they are probably the toughest team we've faced up bar Peps record shattering Barca and the Bayern team in 2012 (they absolutely battered us at times). He's also been La Liga coach of the year 3 times in 5 years so there it is it confirms he is definitely a shambolic coach.

Him and Conte are more similar than you'd think, two ex players who were captains and club legends who rebuilt their clubs (Atletico & Juventus) very successfully, who have an emphasis on hard work, discipline and organisation/structure although Simeones work at Atletico is more impressive than Contes at Juventus, because he never had both Barcelona or Real Madrid in his league.

 

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

I think it's been established that Leif doesn't know what he's talking about and is most likely a troll.

[Leif 6,006]

Manpe, going against popular opinion doesn't make one a troll. I think only people who reside in the lower levels of their mind even use that 'troll' word seriously.

Baaahh. Baaahhhh. *munches grass*

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, Leif said:

Manpe, going against popular opinion doesn't make one a troll. I think only people who reside in the lower levels of their mind even use that 'troll' word seriously.

Baaahh. Baaahhhh. *munches grass*

I'm not talking about only this, many of your opinions and what you say reside on the lower levels of the mind. I would have let this one slide despite it being a shit opinion, but you started out by saying that everybody who wanted Simeone was a clown etc... So it's only fair to treat you with the same medicine.

[TheIceMan 596]

11 hours ago, manpe said:

 

I think it's been established that Leif doesn't know what he's talking about and is most likely a troll.

Nah, he is not a troll he is just  fucking high as a giraffe's pussy most of the time he posts!!!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Simeone is good manager, but whats realy important is if Atletico keeps playing poor, Simeone will probably leave and that will give us better chance to sign either Koke, Saul or anyone else for that matter.

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, manpe said:

 

I think it's been established that Leif doesn't know what he's talking about and is most likely a troll.

Yeah...and look at the knee jerkers who liked his post.

[Leif 6,006]

46 minutes ago, Jason said:

Yeah...and look at the knee jerkers who liked his post.

I'll send you a mint condition Mew card if you stop slandering me

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Leif said:

I'll send you a mint condition Mew card if you stop slandering me

I'll stop slandering you if you stop being a twat.

[Leif 6,006]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

I'll stop slandering you if you stop being a twat.

If calling a manager and player shambolic makes you a twat you better @ every member on here Ash.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Leif said:

If calling a manager and player shambolic makes you a twat you better @ every member on here Ash.

More like you calling people "clowns"

[Jase 43,479]

 

[11Drogba 2,000]

That sounds like as if she is talking about the ex of her new boyfriend.

Only a fool would believe that Antonio is an insecure guy like that.

[BoyBlue96 990]

15 hours ago, Jason said:

 

LOL. Who was Allegri when he was at AC Milan??? He was shit at Milan. Only in 2010-11 season he won the Serie A but after that season he became woefull there.

He has and already had world class players when he reached the UCL final with Juve. Not a real fair comparison if you ask me. 

 

 

As for Conte, Wenger showed again yesterday why he isn't a top manager anymore. Cannot motivate his players to get to the top of the table. Let's hope Conte proves otherwise. Not underestimate Sunderland and spank them and Moyes.

[Tomo 21,751]

5 hours ago, BoyBlue96 said:

LOL. Who was Allegri when he was at AC Milan??? He was shit at Milan. Only in 2010-11 season he won the Serie A but after that season he became woefull there.

He has and already had world class players when he reached the UCL final with Juve. Not a real fair comparison if you ask me. 

 

 

As for Conte, Wenger showed again yesterday why he isn't a top manager anymore. Cannot motivate his players to get to the top of the table. Let's hope Conte proves otherwise. Not underestimate Sunderland and spank them and Moyes.

Although i am not for a second suggesting Allegri is better than Conte, he has done very well to keep Juve's momentum going at the top. I never get why people say that taking over a dominant/treble/all conquering team is easy, it's arguably the hardest job in football. How can you motivate players that are already at the top? How can you convince them to not only go again but to buy into new ideas?

The best jobs for managers is one's were the team's are flirting with success but haven't yet made that final step, assuming they don't win the league this season Arsenal would be a great proposition for someone if Wenger doesn't extent his contract.

[Monziò 14]

Allegri has great tactical acumen, he studies specific expedients and sharply intervenes on the flow of games. He is the coach you see the hand more on sundays than weekdays. I'm sure he can do very well with sound successful teams as he is well-fitted for elimination tournaments and not really for leagues. At Chelsea he couldn't have done an ounce of what Conte's doing. 

Conte is not a leader, he is a fucking conqueror king who builds his armada and pushes to the boundaries without ever looking back. Exhaustion is the worst enemy, at first physically - march was a ponderous time and i see he is still using the very same regulars - then, slowly, a mental burnout. Chelsea directors must be good in bringing in the right players to improve technique and make a renewal of tired or relaxed ones: Conte doesn't look good at all on market. Sooner or later Conte will burn his immense energy too and i wouldn't be surprised if he'll take a sabbatical year to restore before next campaign.

I just had a magnificent idea for Juve and Chelsea to swap between Conte and Allegri every some years! Go go Conte! 

 

[Leif 6,006]

6 minutes ago, Monziò said:

Allegri has great tactical acumen, he studies specific expedients and sharply intervenes on the flow of games. He is the coach you see the hand more on sundays than weekdays. I'm sure he can do very well with sound successful teams as he is well-fitted for elimination tournaments and not really for leagues. At Chelsea he couldn't have done an ounce of what Conte's doing. 

Conte is not a leader, he is a fucking conqueror king who builds his armada and pushes to the boundaries without ever looking back. Exhaustion is the worst enemy, at first physically - march was a ponderous time and i see he is still using the very same regulars - then, slowly, a mental burnout. Chelsea managers must be good in bringing in the right players to improve technique and make a renewal of tired or relaxed ones: Conte doesn't look good at all in market. Sooner or later Conte will burn his immense energy too and i wouldn't be surprised if he'll take a sabbatical year to restore before next campaign.

I just had a magnificent idea for Juve and Chelsea to swap between Conte and Allegri every some years! Go go Conte!.. 

 

None of our managers since around 2008 or so have been astute at rotating players. We're already seeing our players tiring, and too many of our coaches have said 'We don't need the full quota of players, 20 is enough', as an example. It's a naive approach to believe 11 players wins a league. It takes a lot more than just those players. Unfortunately that's the only thing giving me doubt about winning the title this season.