Gonzalo Higuain

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New 20 - Milan and Genoa have met regarding Piatek but we'll continue talks on Tuesday.. 

Big chance Higuain could not be here in time to be registered for the second leg against Spurs. I love Italian clubs.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Vesper 30,079]

40 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

If the Piatek deal falls though does that mean no Higs?

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If the Piatek deal falls though does that mean no Higs?

Won't fall through, they are playing each other this weekend I think so they've postponed hostilities till it's out of the way. As long as Milan pay up the will be no issue

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

i think Higuain will happen anyway. Juventus own him, we have agreement with them and i would imagine all the documents have been exchanged to confirm the deal.  If Milan didnt get Piatek, IMO theyd get Batshauyi or Morata

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17 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

Won't fall through, they are playing each other this weekend I think so they've postponed hostilities till it's out of the way. As long as Milan pay up the will be no issue

I cannot believe we are not the ones buying Piatek

We are totally helping out a team (Juve) who has CONSTANTLY assfucked us for years

as well as empowering AC Milan

madness

[Pizy 18,847]

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I cannot believe we are not the ones buying Piatek

We are totally helping out a team (Juve) who has CONSTANTLY assfucked us for years

as well as empowering AC Milan

madness

We were never going to bring in a long term #9 in the winter window. Also, this is the first season that Piatek has burst on to the scene and has done so for a small club in a weak league. He could turn t to be a flash in the pan, one season wonder like so many have before. I doubt our club want to make another big mistake on a striker.

Higuain has proven himself over the years and has worked with our manager before to great success. The club wanted what is hopefully a "sure thing" now as a stop gap. Then, once Morata and probably Giroud are moved out by summer we'll go after the long term solution which is hopefully Icardi.

[Superblue 6,372]

29 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I cannot believe we are not the ones buying Piatek

We are totally helping out a team (Juve) who has CONSTANTLY assfucked us for years

as well as empowering AC Milan

madness

Personally I think it's a huge risk paying 10 times the transfer fee someone moved for only 6 months ago.

He literally had a hot streak for about 10-12 games and has cooled off somewhat since. Plenty of players, but especially strikers, end up being one season wonders.

If he moves to Milan and pulls up trees, fair play to him. But I would view it as a big risk and would much rather see a player do it for a couple of seasons to prove it's not just a one off before sinking big money into them.

It all goes to show too that no player is perfect and everyone has their own ideas and positives/negatives to any transfer, so the club will never please everyone.

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1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Personally I think it's a huge risk paying 10 times the transfer fee someone moved for only 6 months ago.

He literally had a hot streak for about 10-12 games and has cooled off somewhat since. Plenty of players, but especially strikers, end up being one season wonders.

If he moves to Milan and pulls up trees, fair play to him. But I would view it as a big risk and would much rather see a player do it for a couple of seasons to prove it's not just a one off before sinking big money into them.

It all goes to show too that no player is perfect and everyone has their own ideas and positives/negatives to any transfer, so the club will never please everyone.

Piatek was only actually my 5th choice, just still far more than Higuain (who, at least is only here on a loan I am led to believe)

Icardi

Dybala

Timo Werner

Jovic

Piatek

Haller

[Vesper 30,079]

10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We were never going to bring in a long term #9 in the winter window. Also, this is the first season that Piatek has burst on to the scene and has done so for a small club in a weak league. He could turn t to be a flash in the pan, one season wonder like so many have before. I doubt our club want to make another big mistake on a striker.

Higuain has proven himself over the years and has worked with our manager before to great success. The club wanted what is hopefully a "sure thing" now as a stop gap. Then, once Morata and probably Giroud are moved out by summer we'll go after the long term solution which is hopefully Icardi.

I can understand that, but still, I hate seeing AC Milan and Juve get let off the hook to a point. I guess Juve are still on it if we dont end up buying Higs after the loan period.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I can understand that, but still, I hate seeing AC Milan and Juve get let off the hook to a point. I guess Juve are still on it if we dont end up buying Higs after the loan period.

From what I have read (obviously cannot confirm) his loan deal will cost us £1.5m per month, which does seem to tie in with Milan's original loan for this season being about £18m.

I'm pretty sure Higuain's contract expires in the summer of 2020 so I would assume unless there is some sort of deal brokered, if he was a success and we wanted him to stay we'd just loan him again next season and play things then a season at a time.

[Superblue 6,372]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Piatek was only actually my 5th choice, just still far more than Higuain (who, at least is only here on a loan I am led to believe)

Icardi

Dybala

Timo Werner

Jovic

Piatek

Haller

Icardi, Dybala and to a lesser extent Werner are big name players. Unless something crazy happened they aren't going to move in January. 

I would be surprised if Icardi or Dybala moved full stop to be honest. Icardi's current situation just feels like a way to get a fatter contract and he isn't really interested in moving. And if I was Dybala would I want to move from Juventus??

Jovic and Haller I would say are a bit further along than Piatek, I'd like to see them finish the second half of this season and see how they keep going. But Jovic is on loan anyway so that's also a move that wouldn't happen until his future is resolved with Frankfurt. From the fairly limited amount I've seen of them, Jovic I rate a lot higher than Haller.

For me Werner would be the ace this summer. He's a perfect mixture of young but with a lot of experience playing at the highest level in Europe, Bundesliga and internationally. And to top it off, he'll move below his market value with his contract winding down. If he is prepared to move outside his comfort zone of Germany (and the clutches of Bayern) I'd like to think Chelsea would view him as a really attractive target for the summer.

For now though, in terms of low risk with the experience and previous pedigree where he could very easily come in and make an instant impact (and his world standing and reputation will immediately make opponents take notice), I don't see a better option this month than Higuain on loan and assuming it all goes through without hitches, I think the club will have done well to negotiate such a deal.

[Vesper 30,079]

2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Icardi, Dybala and to a lesser extent Werner are big name players. Unless something crazy happened they aren't going to move in January. 

I would be surprised if Icardi or Dybala moved full stop to be honest. Icardi's current situation just feels like a way to get a fatter contract and he isn't really interested in moving. And if I was Dybala would I want to move from Juventus??

Jovic and Haller I would say are a bit further along than Piatek, I'd like to see them finish the second half of this season and see how they keep going. But Jovic is on loan anyway so that's also a move that wouldn't happen until his future is resolved with Frankfurt. From the fairly limited amount I've seen of them, Jovic I rate a lot higher than Haller.

For me Werner would be the ace this summer. He's a perfect mixture of young but with a lot of experience playing at the highest level in Europe, Bundesliga and internationally. And to top it off, he'll move below his market value with his contract winding down. If he is prepared to move outside his comfort zone of Germany (and the clutches of Bayern) I'd like to think Chelsea would view him as a really attractive target for the summer.

For now though, in terms of low risk with the experience and previous pedigree where he could very easily come in and make an instant impact (and his world standing and reputation will immediately make opponents take notice), I don't see a better option this month than Higuain on loan and assuming it all goes through without hitches, I think the club will have done well to negotiate such a deal.

I agree on all of this. I was just pissed ro see a major option come off the summer board in Piątek, when supposedly he was not going to be allowed to move till then.

Juve were the ones (stupidly I think) who were sending out trial balloons over Dybala.

This summer will be go time for Werner and Icardi. I was never under any delusions we could grab beither one now, in January. If we dont get Icardi, I just hope against hope he renews with Inter. I would hate to see him at Manure (disaster) or Real or PSG or Barca or the worst, Victimpool.

[Superblue 6,372]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I agree on all of this. I was just pissed ro see a major option come off the summer board in Piątek, when supposedly he was not going to be allowed to move till then.

Juve were the ones (stupidly I think) who were sending out trial balloons over Dybala.

This summer will be go time for Werner and Icardi. I was never under any delusions we could grab beither one now, in January. If we dont get Icardi, I just hope against hope he renews with Inter. I would hate to see him at Manure (disaster) or Real or PSG or Barca or the worst, Victimpool.

I wouldn't be against Icardi moving to Madrid if he wasn't interested in coming here.

Real Madrid aren't going to buy everyone and for every big, expensive signing they make, it increases the chances of them not prioritising Hazard and thus us keeping hold of him.

 

[Vesper 30,079]

11 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

We really have to tho. Chilwell could be the perfect fit (talented+skilful+good defender+young+HG English)

The board and Sarri both think we have close to the best LB in Europe. We will bring in some scrub who the punters will demand to be played and Sarri will laugh and light up a fag.

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Higuain is a much better dribbler than Piatek and also the better passer.And bear in mind Genoa is a counter-attacking team which is the complete opposite of the way we play.

Piatek should first prove himself at a team like Milan before moving to a top team.Couple of years ago Belotti was scoring for fun but he never hit the same form.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

You guys know this Alfredo Pedula is just trolling?

The other day he took pic of two random guys from the back and said Higuain and Sarri in london 

He knows jackshit about Paredes or Higuain, althrough it looks Higuain is very possible.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

I can understand that, but still, I hate seeing AC Milan and Juve get let off the hook to a point. I guess Juve are still on it if we dont end up buying Higs after the loan period.

I doubt we will buy him, depending on what the agreed fee is.  If it's small, and he's scoring, then maybe as a back-up (by then).  Juve paid 100M for him (or close to, whatever it was), got 2 seasons out of him, and now we have him on loan for up to 18 months (and it's up to us if we want to keep him).  I'm not sure how much we're actually letting Juve off the hook, but I don't know the fee we are paying for his loan.  I do like that if it's not in our best interests to do so, he's gone after 6 months.