The Hiddink Thread

[Fernando 6,585]

He mentioned how he envied PSG depth. 

That's a message to our club.

[bellion 170]

10 minutes ago, Fernando said:

He mentioned how he envied PSG depth. 

That's a message to our club.

The Board doesn't give a damn beyond a Pato loan and a Papy purchase.  They are only interested in competing for the negative net spend award having now bested Stoke, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth and Watford.

[kiwi1691 255]

5 hours ago, bellion said:

The Board doesn't give a damn beyond a Pato loan and a Papy purchase.  They are only interested in competing for the negative net spend award having now bested Stoke, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth and Watford.

We have had a low net spend in recent years because Jose was the only manager in Europe who wants to flog off good players. 

[Essien19 1,415]

5 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said:

We have had a low net spend in recent years because Jose was the only manager in Europe who wants to flog off good players. 

Send it to the United board, i think you have figured Jose out, good job.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

On 07/02/2016 at 7:20 PM, Fernando said:

Pretty much my thought. Undefeated, hard to beat, fight till the end....this points good for our cup competition. 

The scenes if we get to the CL final and win it.

Especially if Spurs finish fourth.

[bellion 170]

6 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

We have had a low net spend in recent years because Jose was the only manager in Europe who wants to flog off good players. 

Not sure if Mourinho was responsible for selling good players but how about buying good players?  Surely someone better than Papy and Hector was available? 

[kiwi1691 255]

19 minutes ago, bellion said:

Not sure if Mourinho was responsible for selling good players but how about buying good players?  Surely someone better than Papy and Hector was available? 

Well it was Jose that nailed Mata, KDB to the bench, and loaned out other players. 

 

Turns out Papy is a good player.

[bellion 170]

2 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

Well it was Jose that nailed Mata, KDB to the bench, and loaned out other players. 

 

Turns out Papy is a good player.

Papy was bought as a back-up player and is in no way first team material.  If the club is serious about being title and CL challengers, spend more than the likes of Palace and Bournemouth!!

[Muzchap 8,966]

2 hours ago, bellion said:

Papy was bought as a back-up player and is in no way first team material.  If the club is serious about being title and CL challengers, spend more than the likes of Palace and Bournemouth!!

Here's my problem - big transfer fee == good player 

the Leicester team has some great players and they were purchased for less than Pappy. It's about building a good scouting network and identifying prospects and playing them once purchased, whereas we just loan them out, the loan system is so heavily flawed I can't be bothered to go into that now

papy is doing a decent job in the Bundesliga and from the glimpses I have seen of him, he's comparable right now to Gary and Iva...

[Adnane 1,101]

Well, just sw this : 

 

Progressed two rounds in the Cup, and has a slight disadvantage midway through the Champions League last 8 but a home game to play. 

Fair to say Uncle Guus has done a pretty good job again, didn't do miracles, nobody was expecting him too, but did steady the ship, and I don't know about you, but 3rd, 2nd best attack, 4 away clean sheets in the last 10 matchs and the longest unbeaten active streak ( longest of the season for all teams actually ) is really good if you ask me, means basically that bar Southampton and Tottenham, we have done at least as good or better as the rest of the league. 

[Yeboii 1,844]

16 minutes ago, Adnane said:

Well, just sw this : 

 

Progressed two rounds in the Cup, and has a slight disadvantage midway through the Champions League last 8 but a home game to play. 

Fair to say Uncle Guus has done a pretty good job again, didn't do miracles, nobody was expecting him too, but did steady the ship, and I don't know about you, but 3rd, 2nd best attack, 4 away clean sheets in the last 10 matchs and the longest unbeaten active streak ( longest of the season for all teams actually ) is really good if you ask me, means basically that bar Southampton and Tottenham, we have done at least as good or better as the rest of the league. 

Lets hope he keeps on the good work. We will need some masterful planning from his since we have lost Zouma and Terry.

[bellion 170]

19 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Here's my problem - big transfer fee == good player 

the Leicester team has some great players and they were purchased for less than Pappy. It's about building a good scouting network and identifying prospects and playing them once purchased, whereas we just loan them out, the loan system is so heavily flawed I can't be bothered to go into that now

papy is doing a decent job in the Bundesliga and from the glimpses I have seen of him, he's comparable right now to Gary and Iva...

Leicester's situation is the opposite of a perfect storm - everything and every player they bought has clicked under Ranieri.  Even they didn't expect such a meteoric rise especially since they were actually tipped to be one of the relegation candidate this season.

Chelsea is a different kettle of fish altogether i.e. the club has the funds (if they wish to spend) and a far wider scouting network to bring in superstars, rising stars and virtual unknowns.  I believe we all agree thatt the club doesn't need to make every single transfer to be a big money one as a mix of the above is probably the most desirable approach plus injection from the youth teams.

My beef with the Board is that they take an "income statement trumps all" approach such as enforcing a one-in one-out approach when the squad is already too small in numbers as well as faming out the  youth players in the loan market.  On top of this, the Stones debacle and the last minute panic attempts for Pogba and Marquinhos (more to placate the fans than really serious attempts) which ended with the Papy and Hector purchases made the Board to be utter transfer mugs.  Also, this pathetic transfer policy can be seen in the loans and short-term signings of has-beens like Pato and links with Lavezzi.  Some would say just play the youngsters if the Board is so obsessed with cash flow but the club doesn't even do that very much and frankly, I do think it would be foolish if our club put our high hopes on youth players heading straight into the first team without an appropriate number of top quality players already in the team. 

On a side note, Papy was never meant to be a first team player.  What we need now is a top quality centre-half and perhaps a left-back if Baba isn't trusted and also to push Ivanovic out of the first team.

 

 

 

 

[manpe 10,861]

I struggle to see the point in bringing on Matic and Oscar against a beaten City side full of youngsters. Hopefully the next manager will like RLC and Kenedy, because Guus clearly doesn't.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

We're going to win the FA cup!

[Jase 43,479]

WHY THE HELL DID HIDDINK BRING MATIC ON WHEN WE WERE 4-1 UP?!!

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He's improved our attacking play so much it's ridiculous. Everyone was looking to pass to the runner in behind the defence and a lot of one two's combination. The players are finally practicing attacking patterns. 

The only problem is how poor our defenders are in making any decision. So many times they hoof the ball under slight pressure without passing to a free man. 

[DYC. 7,542]

13 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

He's improved our attacking play so much it's ridiculous. Everyone was looking to pass to the runner in behind the defence and a lot of one two's combination. The players are finally practicing attacking patterns. 

The only problem is how poor our defenders are in making any decision. So many times they hoof the ball under slight pressure without passing to a free man. 

Remember when Chelsea couldn't score from open play? Quite the transformation.

[Styles 9,790]

Is it just me or has Hiddink realised Oscar is terrible?