The Mourinho Thread

[didierforever 7,349]

why are the players cunts? perhaps a large percentage of them arent very good, but i doubt any of them really tried to lose.

i dont doubt that. i think a select few did. cesc, costa, and maybe hazard.

no way can top players can play like championship relegation players.

infact, for costa and cesc it should not even be debatable.

again, not saying that jose was faultless. still dont understand why he stuck with these players for the longest. but if he deserves the sack, so does those 2.

[iseah100 5,612]

i dont doubt that. i think a select few did. cesc, costa, and maybe hazard.

no way can top players can play like championship relegation players.

infact, for costa and cesc it should not even be debatable.

again, not saying that jose was faultless. still dont understand why he stuck with these players for the longest. but if he deserves the sack, so does those 2.

Cesc and Costa are the biggest.

[Changingman_2000 876]

lets hear the names of these "cunt" players. maybe cesc, but i can't see past him

Costa (By some distance), Hazard, Fabregas, Matic, Ivanovic, Cahill, Pedro, Oscar "I could go on for hours, and I probably will, but I'd sooner put some enjoyment back in............"?

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

why are the players cunts? perhaps a large percentage of them arent very good, but i doubt any of them really tried to lose.

This is how most matchday fans see it, how opposing fans see it and how neutrals see it: A spineless board caving into player power once more.

We've sacked one of our own to protect a bunch of cunts.

[Starman60 1,343]

I was one who has been calling for Jose to go. But yes. it's a bit sad and the end of an era. I just want to see us gain some stability, start playing decent football, and see some of our splendid youth getting into the team instead of some of our present primadonna's. I now await the arrival of our new manager......and I really hope it's not that oaf Ramos, as has been mooted by some members of the media.

As I started supporting the blues this will be the 26th managerial change..........God I feel old.... :blue scalf:

[lucio 5,418]

This is how most matchday fans see it, how opposing fans see it and how neutrals see it: A spineless board caving into player power once more.

i'm sure being 1 point off relegation had more to do with it.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

This is gold.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

How can people pretend that a dozen players weren't trying AND NOT blame the manager for that? If he can't control or motivate his team, he deserves to go anyway. I have never liked the cult of Mourinho. No player is bigger than the club and managers are worth a lot less than players. There was no scenario where Mourinho keeping his job made sense. We were awful, his antics were childish and disruptive, and Chelsea were not improving at all. This was not a rash decision in the least.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Bar Azpi, did anyone else thanked Mou yet?

Says alot about the whole thing realy...

[Polo7 3,496]

Bar Azpi, did anyone else thanked Mou yet?

Says alot about the whole thing realy...

Fabregas was the first I think.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

The more I think the more vilified I become. Fucking mercenaries leaves a bad taste in the mouth

[Fernando 6,585]

i'm sure being 1 point off relegation had more to do with it.

And being that we are in December.

In October not much of a worry because hopefully we can bounce.

But the same shenanigans in December is not good.

[The Chels 2,502]

Bar Azpi, did anyone else thanked Mou yet?

Says alot about the whole thing realy...

I'd imagine a lot of them will have done it privately.

[MichaelDance 552]

Roman is going to regret it, and any non Mourinho fans will also regret it when the "new" manager comes in and we go to the Championship, out of the UCL and we fail to beat Aston Villa and Birmingham City.

[The Skipper 20,609]

When Rafa came in, there was anger. Now there's a general mood of despondency.

I understand those criticisms, but we won the league last season. We won it playing some great football up until January and then coasted, but nothing we did in the summer looked to give us something more this season. There was no improvement to the squad, in fact it got weaker. That to me isn't Jose's fault, so then expecting him to put young, inexperienced players into a weaker side seems disadvantageous to both the team and the young players. Surely you want to integrate them when you're on the front foot, not when you're looking for consistency of results.

OTK,

First off. Thanks for a very eloquent response, very much appreciated. Now, I must respectfully say that I disagree with various points you've made.

The first point I'll make is that you can't say that the squad weakened so much that we should be hovering a point above relegation at this stage of the season; no matter what you say that isn't good enough. As for integrating the youth when we're on the front foot? That's not how Mourinho works, he never has. Last season, when we clearly were on the front foot, Mourinho still was very reluctant to field youngsters. CL group stage against Sporting when RLC got a few minutes is a great example of this - we were utterly brilliant around that time but we still didn't see enough youngsters. I don't buy that we would've been playing the youth if we were doing well this season.

I'm not asking for rationality though. Nothing about supporting a club is rational, it's an emotional response. Supporting this club is about the experience of being with not just my family and friends but also about being with thousands of people with the same love. It's those emotional bonds you build that are important and we built that with Jose too. His influence, his personality is all over this club. We sang his name in 2012 because we knew how key he was to that.

And that's all well and good. He's deserved it. He's been a very influential person in our club. I'll always hold him in the highest regard but that doesn't mean he's always going to be the right person to take us forward.

Maybe we weren't playing stylish football, but some things are more important than that to some people.

People talk about right paths and potential but I'm unclear as to what it is you're alluding to. So for instance when the scousers talk about it, they mean get back to 'pass and move, it's the Liverpool groove' and when United talk about it they mean an attacking, wing-based play and when Arsenal talk about it, they probably mean the Wenger-style of play.

So what is this right path you're alluding to because for the last decade or so it's been very much Jose's fingerprints on everything. A return to fancy football that lacks steel?

It's not about stylish football, it's about the plan we had as a club. The right path I've been alluding to is the very one Jose harped about when he came back - the ability to win in style, to nurture our young talents that we've smartly bought, to use our excellent academy and get in a few chaps made by Chelsea. We saw it last season, and we were progressing well in that aspect but we fully stalled, and started regressing, and under Jose we were not showing that we were going to get back to that level. The styles you talk about from other big European clubs - we were getting there. We're so far from that now.