zolayes 14,489 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 we were defensive? we used defensive tactics? how ? when? where? we were unable to break down a defence. why? cos in the first half we had 3 players whose name i saw on the team sheet and that was the only way i knew they were playing (ba, lamps, salah). in the 2nd half, we tried. we huffed and we puffed. we hit the bar twice, but simply dint have the cutting edge. 90 minutes we never looked like a top 4 teaM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 what is actually baffling is the support we are getting in our worst time of the season. we have ended the season on a major low. no way around that. had the PL in sight but simply let it go. at one point could have gone on to the CL final, but got outclassed.this is the moment when fans should be getting behind the team. but what i am seeing is unbelievable.calling our manager a "twat". posters like lionsden and excalibur are a disgrace.would be really interesting to see what their reaction will be when we will be lifting the PL next season. oooohhhh!!! i am gonna enjoy that. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 To control the ball in tight spaces between 2-3markers and get a shot off is (benzema, suarez, messi, balloteli, rossi, aguero, falcao, lewandoski)I'm also worried that costa won't do what jose wants Arguably Rooney also, although his performances have really fluctuated this season. Between him and Costa it's not even close in terms of technical ability and ability to play in tight spaces. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 90 minutes we never looked like a top 4 teaMthat is different from saying "defensive tactics used by jose today are not meant for this match".the players were simply not up for it. we are lacking any and all confidence. we have ended the season on a major low. we dint have a string of poor results until now and we have probably had it in the worst possible time. but to see how people react in the time of adversary shows who they really are. and a lot of people here have shown their true colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Arguably Rooney also, although his performances have really fluctuated this season. Between him and Costa it's not even close in terms of technical ability and ability to play in tight spaces.What, Rooney is shocking in tight spaces nowadays, constantly gives away the ball. Maybe the Rooney of 2005 - 2006, but now he's just bad. I think Costa is actually pretty decent in tight spaces. The best I've seen in this regard is Aguero. For me when that guy is fit, he's the best striker in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 that is different from saying "defensive tactics used by jose today are not meant for this match".the players were simply not up for it. we are lacking any and all confidence. we have ended the season on a major low. we dint have a string of poor results until now and we have probably had it in the worst possible time. but to see how people react in the time of adversary shows who they really are. and a lot of people here have shown their true colours. Im saying we looked dreadful today ... we had a better chance of winning the title than Norwich did of staying up . There can be no way of excusing a dreadful result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 What, Rooney is shocking in tight spaces nowadays, constantly gives away the ball. Maybe the Rooney of 2005 - 2006, but now he's just bad. I think Costa is actually pretty decent in tight spaces. The best I've seen in this regard is Aguero. For me when that guy is fit, he's the best striker in the world. Rooney has been really inconsistent this season. One game he can be very, very good in tight spaces and the next he will be worse than Ba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Rooney has been really inconsistent this season. One game he can be very, very good in tight spaces and the next he will be worse than Ba.be fair Shrek can be bad but he does get on the ptich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 we were defensive? we used defensive tactics? how ? when? where? we were unable to break down a defence. why? cos in the first half we had 3 players whose name i saw on the team sheet and that was the only way i knew they were playing (ba, lamps, salah). in the 2nd half, we tried. we huffed and we puffed. we hit the bar twice, but simply dint have the cutting edge. Our line up at home could have been more attacking. Why have two DMF's at home against Norwich?!We were the home team, and we should be taking the initiative. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Im saying we looked dreadful today ... we had a better chance of winning the title than Norwich did of staying up . There can be no way of excusing a dreadful resultand i not giving any excuse for a poor result. we should be winning matches like these. hence why i said we have ended the season on a major low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Arguably Rooney also, although his performances have really fluctuated this season. Between him and Costa it's not even close in terms of technical ability and ability to play in tight spaces.That's why he wanted rooney so bad. But this summer is just so poor in terms of available top strikers.On Topic:-I have watched our games this season and we seem to attack by spreading the ball to the wide men, waiting for them to beat their man, and then crossing or shooting. If it doesn't work, then we pass to ivanovic to cross, or we just shoot from distance. And worse of all, we do all this too slowly. Terrible tempo.Its too simple to defend against, no combinations, I don't even see the small passing triangles I saw in the beginning of the season. No 1-2's, no link up between teammates and rare team play.These are things practiced on the training ground. That's why even southampton players can look excellent when attacking, because their average players practice movements in training. I think we don't do enough team combinations and it's made us look like we are over thinking in attack, slow and predictable against teams that defend deep.I hope we get this fixed next season. The Chels, Zazard and MrExcalibur100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Denmark manager's views on Jose's philosophyhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelseas-jose-mourinho-accused-killing-3496511 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couris 232 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2620214/Exclusive-Jose-Mourinho-lashes-players-half-time-bust-Stamford-Bridge.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Denmark manager's views on Jose's philosophyhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelseas-jose-mourinho-accused-killing-3496511Every man and his dog has an opinion on Jose's tactics darrus, didierforever and Blue Traveler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Our line up at home could have been more attacking. Why have two DMF's at home against Norwich?!We were the home team, and we should be taking the initiative.what? since we were the home team we should start the match with 3 strikers and 5 AMs?we play football a particular way. we were 2 points of the top of the table with a CL semi final with that kind of play. we did take the initiative.we finished the match with 2 strikers and 3 ams. u know what, this week, madrid and barca also drew. specially madrid who had the league in the hands after knowing that ATM lost and barca had drawn. should they be accused of the same. results can go wrong sometimes. u cant blame jose for everythin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 in the morning someone posted an article by owen and now the danish coach. LOLOLOLOLOLOL... oh has it really come down to THIS!!!! people are so desperate. Blue Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I think it's gotten to the point where a lot of the reactions to the criticisms of Mourinho are just as knee-jerk as some of the criticisms itself. I admit that a few of the posts I've read on here slating Mourinho have been over the top, but at the same time there're some that have been legitimate criticisms. The problem I'm seeing here is that regardless of whether there're unreasonable or valid, any criticism of Mourinho is being met with angry accusations of being a glory hunter. This is exactly the same thing some members did in the beginning of the season when a few were saying that Oscar doesn't give us enough creativity and shouldn't be played in the number 10 position ahead of Mata. It was the same kind of reaction.......... "mata fanboy", "plastic fan" "support the club not the player".It's normal to respond angrily to unpopular opinions (I'm not excused from that myself) but to start making accusations and calling lionsden or whoever, a plastic supporter just because they dare to hold a contrasting opinion from the normative thinking, crosses the line of reason.I don't agree with everything Lionsden or MrExcalibur have said but I just think it's ridiculous that they're being treated with so little civility by a few on here when really, they haven't said anything so outrageous to warrant that kind of treatment. It's not like they've said "Mourinho will be the death of Chelsea. Sack him now". What they've said is that Mourinho has certain flaws that they don't like and they've been brave enough to verbalize them rather than follow the flock. Imo I think what we've seen in the champions league this season isn't really the "death of tika taka" but what can happen when a coach isn't flexible and when a coach prescribes too rigidly to one type of system. Mourinho needs to evolve as a coach and he needs to evolve his tactics. If saying so makes me a shit supporter, then ya'll can kiss my ass. Gems like this help me keep the faith in this forum.I love you, marry me now! Damn son, beat me to it! Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 what? since we were the home team we should start the match with 3 strikers and 5 AMs?we play football a particular way. we were 2 points of the top of the table with a CL semi final with that kind of play. we did take the initiative.we finished the match with 2 strikers and 3 ams. u know what, this week, madrid and barca also drew. specially madrid who had the league in the hands after knowing that ATM lost and barca had drawn. should they be accused of the same. results can go wrong sometimes. u cant blame jose for everythin.I ain't blaming Jose for everything, but just stating the facts. Also, RM drew to one of the EL semifinalists & and not to a team who is all but relegated.The bottom line is, EVERYONE has to take part of the blame. We are a team! Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this will be the first time in the Abramovich era a manager wins nothing for a full season and does not get sacked? Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 And Neil Ashton is at it again:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2620214/Exclusive-Jose-Mourinho-lashes-players-half-time-bust-Stamford-Bridge.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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