The Mourinho Thread

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

I didn't want him sacked.

Anyone that takes a team from champions to near the relegation zone is going to be sacked at most clubs.

Players used to love playing for him. I didn't see that at Madrid or his second spell here.

I don't know what went wrong here.

He has nothing to prove in football, maybe staying long term or promoting youth.

I'm sure he won't feel so bad when he goes home and looks at his medals and bank account

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

You sound like a fanatic. You've decided Mourinho is the problem then try and fit an argument around it. Where you let slip just how much is when you say 'if Mourinho and the management staff can't show it on the pitch'. I thought that was the players job?. Don't tell me, when the players struggle to string a few passes together that ........ shows how bad the manager is?

Maybe the players just don't care. How do you explain hazard's poor form? Is it his defensive work that's stopped him attempting to dribble?

When Liverpool could hardly defend under Rodgers but were scoring a lot of goals, was that the player's job or Rodgers job? Everyone could recognize Rodgers struggled to coach organised attacks and many 'Pool fans suggested he hire a defensive coach.

With Mourinho, it's a different standard. With him, the blinders are on. Choose what you want to believe. I believe what I see and I'm fine with that.

[zolayes 14,489]

Thanks! Can't say if it will be for too long this time around.

Must admit I was very surprised to see your vote in this thread's poll, especially given how you tended to support players/managers for a longer period than most, care to give me a quick rundown of your rationale?

it would take too long but in a nutshell .. some things are more important than tin cups ,, I am now thought to be one of the most negative moaners on here .

hope you are well and things in Greece are improving

[The Skipper 20,609]

Idiots. Atmosphere next Saturday will be fucking choking, lots of booing; lots of Mou chants; probably irrational but considering who Jose is to this club completely understandable, whereas nearly all of the players couldn't care less at the end of the day. Many will be booed, completely deservedly - the players can't win whether they perform well or badly now.

I'm still disgusted. Fucking vilified even, because it should be on the players, but no we took the easy way out and got rid of the manager instead. He oozes blue, unless we appoint a former player no other manager will come close to that and even then not to the same skillset as Mourinho and quite frankly we're rotten to the core as a club now, just another plastic facade with no identity.

Chrismada9; exactly what I feel, cheers for the video.

He oozes blue, he's proper Chels, but that doesn't mean he's the best man for the job. By that reasoning Kenny Dalglish should still be Liverpool manager even though what he's done at the club had set them back for years and is still kind of haunting them right now.

It doesn't work like that.

And I'm very certain SB won't be anywhere near as toxic as you're trying to make it out to be. There's time between now and the game, things will cool off. People are there to support Chelsea FC, not Jose Mourinho. We're more than a manager.

You can't tell me you were happy with the identity the club has generated under Mourinho?

[zolayes 14,489]

Very sad news, but good to see that most of you don't lack class and wish him well. I was a bit surprised, i must say.

Now the pro-Mourinho group has done their all, the bigger group who thought it was better to part ways, they have to bring their shit now

I expect the likes of Loftus-Cheek, Baba, Traore, Kenedy, Aina, Musonda and so on to see more and more because their lack of playing time

was on Jose, right?

I read Mourinho cried after the sacking, very very upsetting. "One of us" wasn't just a phrase, imo.

We'll see how it goes long-term, i have decided to come back, because i think the dicussions won't be so one-sided anymore (no harm meant).

Hope no one has a problem with that, at some of you, i don't intend to open a bookstore.

@Zolayes looking forward to speaking with you, bring it, no more Jose around the house, can only get better?

Read KOstas post about me ,,

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Thank you for all you have done for me. I owe you a lot and we will all miss you. Good luck in the future and i know you will be back soon.

[Special Juan 28,865]

Sounds like it's Hiddink reading around.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Ivanovic's replacement is here - Azpi.

Terry's heir stones has been lined up since the summer.

William should take Pedro's place on the right with a replacement for Oscar.

Cesc could be replaced for an actual DM like wanyama or a deep modric type player - either will help.

Hazard Needs to replaced by someone world class

It remains to be seen IMO whether some of these players mentioned (i.e. Cesc and Diego) are actually done here. People mentioning that Hazard should be replaced are just being ludicrous and emotional. Pedro has just arrived...

Solutions exist within our squad to get the best out of some of these players that are underperforming - we don't need a massive 7/8 player overhaul at all. Our squad is decent - a couple of great additions will turn it into a great one.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

I'm just going to run this up the flagpole, but you can look at any of his teams across the years and see patterns of attacking play that produce measurable results. The league has become more competitive though and you need to constantly improve your squad or you fall behind. We didn't do that and what's worse, the players we already have (except Willian) performed poorly.

I've seen a lot of brilliant counter-attacking play, not attacking play per se. Mourinho's Madrid were the best counter-attacking team in the world. Chelsea 2004/2005 were a fantastic counter-attacking team. Those teams scored a tremendous amount of goals.

But Mourinho didn't install any attacking philosophy in those teams. So it wasn't that surprising to see those teams fall apart so quickly. Madrid went from having the record for goals in La Liga in one season to being a 3rd place, average Madrid side. We went from this super effecient, physically powerful, counter-attacking machine to long balls to Drogba. Over-reliance on Drogba.

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[Kieran. 6,317]

It remains to be seen IMO whether some of these players mentioned (i.e. Cesc and Diego) are actually done here. People mentioning that Hazard should be replaced are just being ludicrous and emotional. Pedro has just arrived...

Solutions exist within our squad to get the best out of some of these players that are underperforming - we don't need a massive 7/8 player overhaul at all. Our squad is decent - a couple of great additions will turn it into a great one.

Are you on the board? As soon as you were Mourinho Out he was gone within a few days...strange...

[The Skipper 20,609]

Are you on the board? As soon as you were Mourinho Out he was gone within a few days...strange...

Shh.

[Ossie the King 634]

And I'm very certain SB won't be anywhere near as toxic as you're trying to make it out to be. There's time between now and the game, things will cool off. People are there to support Chelsea FC, not Jose Mourinho. We're more than a manager.

Not sure if you were around when Rafa was hired but right now it feels almost as bad. People are there to support Chelsea but Jose is a massive part of this club. It's hard to explain but a lot changed around the time Roman took over. We changed massively, but as much as Roman was the instigator for that, Jose was the architect. His attitude fitted not just with what Chelsea was before, but what it was after the money arrived. It's almost impossible to overstate the impact he had but I can't think of someone we've loved as much as him.

Even when things were tough, we stuck by him simply because he was that important. Chelsea is a club like no other, right down to the fact that many of us own part of the pitch itself. I don't really know what our ethos or perhaps even our identity is going forward because we don't have that core of players (JT, Lamps, Drogs etc.) like last time. It's a hugely worrying time.

[didierforever 7,349]

Very sad news, but good to see that most of you don't lack class and wish him well. I was a bit surprised, i must say.

Now the pro-Mourinho group has done their all, the bigger group who thought it was better to part ways, they have to bring their shit now

I expect the likes of Loftus-Cheek, Baba, Traore, Kenedy, Aina, Musonda and so on to see more and more because their lack of playing time

was on Jose, right?

I read Mourinho cried after the sacking, very very upsetting. "One of us" wasn't just a phrase, imo.

We'll see how it goes long-term, i have decided to come back, because i think the dicussions won't be so one-sided anymore (no harm meant).

Hope no one has a problem with that, at some of you, i don't intend to open a bookstore.

@Zolayes looking forward to speaking with you, bring it, no more Jose around the house, can only get better?

did he? any link? please dont let this be true.

[Miguelito 459]

I thought it was very strange that the club points we have agreed to part ways. Now this could just be for damage control. Making it seem like this was not just a board thing we're not going against mou's wishes, but it is a mutual thing. Will definitely help some damage control.

But it does make me wonderdoes this mean we aren't going to pay him the compensation. Is it not going to happen now that it was mutual and not just fired but it was agreed to part ways

[Parky 739]

He didn't get sacked. It was via mutal consent as per clubs official statement. Apparently it is being reported that he will get paid until the end of this season.

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Jose Mourinho leaves Cobham, reported he was crying when he left.

[Special Juan 28,865]

Some reports saying he will get 10M. Mutual consent.

[Ossie the King 634]

I've seen a lot of brilliant counter-attacking play, not attacking play per se. Mourinho's Madrid were the best counter-attacking team in the world. Chelsea 2004/2005 were a fantastic counter-attacking team. Those teams scored a tremendous amount of goals.

But Mourinho didn't install any attacking philosophy in those teams. So it wasn't that surprising to see those teams fall apart so quickly. Madrid went from having the record from goals in La Liga to being a 3rd place, average Madrid side. We went from this super effecient, physically powerful, counter-attacking machine to long balls to Drogba. Over-reliance on Drogba.

Isn't counter-attacking play an attacking philosophy? Obviously it is but I thought I'd just ask the question.

Even then, it's one of a number of tactics Jose has employed. His philosophy (not simply attacking) has been to capitalise on team's mistakes and allow them the time to make them, then strike when they over-commit. He exploits the spaces teams create when they leave spaces by pushing forward too much, usually on one of the wings.

When teams defend deep then it's very hard for any team to break them down, but even then he's shown an ability to do that usually through Fabregas or Hazard.

But I think ultimately our failings come down to us not investing in players in the summer. You want to talk about attacking philosophies then where was the board's attacking philosophy? What was their plan to launch a defence of the title? I can see Man City's and I can even see Arsenal's a bit, but what was our's?

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Considering the club fucked with him that bad, why would you say no to the severance package? Fuck me, I'd have taken the 40 million in a heart-beat.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Empathise with him more than any other manager we've had. He really did care and it's a shame the fairytale couldn't go on. Wonder how he bounces back