OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Like kdb?Just wrote a longish reply to this which has been gobbled up by the system. I'm watching the 21s at the moment but I'll try to do it again later.By the way Charlie Colkett is once again enhancing my view that he is very much one to watch. Love the way he plays football. Mind you I remember saying the same about KDB while at Genk. We lead 3-0 at half time btw.More when I can. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 just ignored a couple of Simeone lovers here .. I'm loving the peaceLol I do apologise for constantly turning this into a Mourinho v Simeone thread but I feel the need to address suggestions that Simeone is as conservative (or as vulnerable to conceding) as Mourinho in the big games and that Mourinho's CL SF record is just bad luck. I have examples of managers going for more and coming unstuck.I don't doubt you do and nobody is asking Mourinho to be all gung-ho about it. Just a little more courage, a little more adventure and a little less fear would go a long way in these ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Oscar not flair enough for you?I would rephrase the question to read is he good enough and I am on record as saying that I don't think he is. I know of course that others disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Can we have a Charlie Colkett thread in the player database please? He's putting on an absolute master class at the moment against West Ham's 21s. Love this footballer.Steve Holland is at the game but I hope Jose's watching. Big hopes for Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted January 23, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2015 Lol, I can't believe people are actually talking about sacking Mourinho.Name one better manager in Chelsea's history...Some of you are so fickle. Mission, Heisenberg, RoyalBlues and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Lol, I can't believe people are actually talking about sacking Mourinho.Name one better manager in Chelsea's history...Some of you are so fickle.The worst is considering currently Pep better than current Mourinho... sorry..., I may ignore the Simeone love - as someone else did - but the Pep argument is completely invalid. He DESTROYED that Bayern team, absolutely destroyed it. It came from the best team in the world by a very long distance to being spanked by RM (who they normally spank themselves)... they look nothing like the Jupp team - which was nearly unplayable. God's sake, didn't City beat them twice in one year?If Mourinho destroyed a team like that I'd love to know what some fans enticed by the neighbor's grass would say.They pile up excuses for their 'fave' and nitpick and judge Mourinho for everything... ZaynCFC, CurlyHairLikeLuiz and thedrog108 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I really dont like Jose but we couldn't get a better coach/ manager Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mou is one of the very best. He makes teams, as they say, Pep inherits them.I do think his lack of silverware and his RM spell still haunts him, though. He doesn't look quite as ambitious anymore when it comes to lineups/subs.Wouldn't have any other manager, though. @Barbara ZaynCFC and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Would love to see him go to Manchester if we sack him and f**k us in every encounterDo you support Chelsea or Jose Mourinho? The Skipper, Styles and Mission 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The worst is considering currently Pep better than current Mourinho... sorry..., I may ignore the Simeone love - as someone else did - but the Pep argument is completely invalid. He DESTROYED that Bayern team, absolutely destroyed it. It came from the best team in the world by a very long distance to being spanked by RM (who they normally spank themselves)... they look nothing like the Jupp team - which was nearly unplayable. God's sake, didn't City beat them twice in one year?If Mourinho destroyed a team like that I'd love to know what some fans enticed by the neighbor's grass would say.They pile up excuses for their 'fave' and nitpick and judge Mourinho for everything...Considering his closest friend died during that week it was difficult to prepare the match, he is pretty much doing better that Jupp in every terms, this season is his second, judge his european record now. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The worst is considering currently Pep better than current Mourinho... sorry..., I may ignore the Simeone love - as someone else did - but the Pep argument is completely invalid. He DESTROYED that Bayern team, absolutely destroyed it. It came from the best team in the world by a very long distance to being spanked by RM (who they normally spank themselves)... they look nothing like the Jupp team - which was nearly unplayable. God's sake, didn't City beat them twice in one year?If Mourinho destroyed a team like that I'd love to know what some fans enticed by the neighbor's grass would say.They pile up excuses for their 'fave' and nitpick and judge Mourinho for everything...If he just carried on the same way the squad could have got too comfortable and stagnated.Also Bayern winning the treble doesn't make the job easier for Pep, if anything it makes it harder, how do you convince a bunch of player's who have just won everything to not only go again but to buy into new ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Considering his closest friend died during that week it was difficult to prepare the match, he is pretty much doing better that Jupp in every terms, this season is his second, judge his european record now.1) I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep); 2) a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that. 3) There's no comparison between the football that Bayern played and Pep's. Dortmund weakened a lot, there's no strong team in Germany to compare to them. Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?As I said, the excuses for the grass in the neighbor's pile up.All that said... I'm really fed up with José comments about the support. He should shut the heck up and get the team to continue to produce results. He has no business talking anything - except praise - about support. I'm really disappointed by him this term. Stubborn, late reactions, ultra pragmatic at times and talking shit about those who are way bigger than he'd ever be.He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore. bethos1, Fernando, zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! GodZola 630 Posted January 23, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2015 You simply cannot question the magnificent job José has done in the last 18 months, we went from double winners to an inconsistent team struggling to make the top 4, now he has turned us into title contenders under a stringent financial policy, yes he has spent money but he has bought some quality with it whilst balancing the book - if this was Arsenal there would be a media love fest, yet cus its us who have spent large almost a decade then it gets largely over looked?!However, fans have every right to question his recent comments, my Chelsea friends and I actually commented during the game that our fans were fantastic against Liverpool which they always are away from home, José choice of words were quite frankly embarrassing and ignorant to our 4,500 fans who were a credit to our club.Its obvious that he is trying to stoke up the fire with our home fans but ffs man, praise your own away fans first then nibble at the prawn sandwich eaters to back the team, think there was also a deflection tactic used to take the pressure away from him and the players cus that performance was shite! manpe, Barbara, ZaynCFC and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Also the idea of just because the team just played some of the best football in the world, means they can do it again. Barca 10-11, one of the best club team in football history...knocked out by us a year later with our worst team in a decade and Real Madrid won the league too. Even if Bayern do win every single trophy this season, no guarantee they will do it again with Pep or someone else next year.All great teams come to an end at some point, or at least not as good as they WERE at a certain period of time. Therefore all the argument of Pep destroying Heynckes team is not that valid imo. Who to say Madrid wouldn't have still fucked Bayern has Jupp was still in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 1) I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep); 2) a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that. 3) There's no comparison between the football that Bayern played and Pep's. Dortmund weakened a lot, there's no strong team in Germany to compare to them. Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?As I said, the excuses for the grass in the neighbor's pile up.All that said... I'm really fed up with José comments about the support. He should shut the heck up and get the team to continue to produce results. He has no business talking anything - except praise - about support. I'm really disappointed by him this term. Stubborn, late reactions, ultra pragmatic at times and talking shit about those who are way bigger than he'd ever be.He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore.a word of advice from a friend ,, Dont listen to his Press Conferences ,,, Take ALL his comments with a bucket full of salt ( well at least more than a pinch ) and just judge by what you see on the pitch .. MrBlueGuy and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Guys u are talking rubbish. This weak league has 4 CL spot, dortmund trashed arsenal with their A Team( 2nd replay they played half B team).And if u remember last Year ,Dortmund should have knocked out Real Madrid, just this Mkihrtrreyan missed 100% Chances.Also remember 10 Men Bayern + 2 Youngster in match with has no purpose dominated Manchester City ( Current Champion) and make them look like fools. Just tiredness and 2 huge mistakes made aguero score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Its not about the fans...its about sending the message.And Mou did just that. Everyone is talking bout his comments on fans and not how shit we played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynCFC 27 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mou haters can die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 1) I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep); 2) a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that. 3) There's no comparison between the football that Bayern played and Pep's. Dortmund weakened a lot, there's no strong team in Germany to compare to them. Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?As I said, the excuses for the grass in the neighbor's pile up.All that said... I'm really fed up with José comments about the support. He should shut the heck up and get the team to continue to produce results. He has no business talking anything - except praise - about support. I'm really disappointed by him this term. Stubborn, late reactions, ultra pragmatic at times and talking shit about those who are way bigger than he'd ever be.He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore."I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep)"I dont give a single damn about what his wife said to the media, if he is ill, Pep is also ill, time doesnt erase memories and feelings, no matter the situation, plus, it would increase Pep's inability to work that time and therefore to be ready for a Semi Final.This is such a poor argument. " a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that"The first leg was dominated by the Germans, Muller should've scored, actually, they played very well against the toughest of the opposition with only one season under the belt of someone who changed a lot in their team.Plus, the second leg was lost when Ramos scored, the downfall was total and shit happens in football, if you judge a coach in a match that he lost 4-0 against Madrid, then Mourinho is probably inferior to Guardiola as he lost 5-0 + a Champions League semi final to him.Thats nonsense."Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?"It doesn't matter what they're winning ? Actually it matters a lot, you just want to ignore it.A whole mess is a very big statement, do you even watch Bayern ? at least the 7-1 demolishion away against a top Roma team is a perfect example to watch the mess.They are probably the most stylish team in Europe, easily winning their matches in BL, defending very well, and going forward with purpose, tactically they evolved a lot this summer, more ready to cope with counter-attacking teams, but I dont really need to tell you the obvious, stats, games and trophies talk.And amazing is relative, it isnt actually an argument."He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore."Trophies will change your mind, that's what count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mou haters can die!Next time coming back at least change your nationality mate, making it painfully obvious who you are haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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