Rumoured Arda Turan

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Who is winning that election race anyway, Laporta or Bartomeu. Apparently Bartomeu is a real dodgy character

[Pacquiao 1,834]

i am sorry but that makes no sense to me at all.

people say oscar has been "overworked". that his poor form is down to getting drained physically to last a season.

now this has taken a new spin that the 2 weeks his gets off, is actually the reason that affect 5 months of his season. and that too 6 months later after the couple of weeks. whats weirder is that, if this is so common a knowledge, we must have a shit medical and support staff that we cant find a way to condition oscar's body...

its really not hard to understand, if a very unfit and overweight person who cant run for more then 5 minutes, trained hard for one week after that week they wouldnt be able to run a marathon but would be able to run a mile or two, if that same person trained hard for 2 months after that 2 months that person would be able to have a good go at running a marathon.

if it still doesnt make sense to you then i give up.

[didierforever 7,349]

Not sure if trolling or being serious here. Lets get off the football topic for a second.

Think of the time when you didn't get much sleep and were sleep deprived, you are most focused and energized for the day in the beginning, as time goes on your energy is completely sapped. It is the same freaking theory lol.

lol... but he does get time off. he got as much time off as any brazilian or german.

if this theory stands then why dint the same thing happen with willian? how did willian play average in the first half and then was mind blowing in the second? was he on drugs?

[Oscar 441]

The election also will affect Pep Guardiola...

[Spike 12,049]

I fail to see, how others fail to see, that Arda epitomizes what it means to be 'Chelsea'. Find me another player in his position that does too.

Foreign and I hear he is silicone based.

[didierforever 7,349]

its really not hard to understand, if a very unfit and overweight person who cant run for more then 5 minutes, trained hard for one week after that week they wouldnt be able to run a marathon but would be able to run a mile or two, if that same person trained hard for 2 months after that 2 months that person would be able to have a good go at running a marathon.

if it still doesnt make sense to you then i give up.

willian had as much of a pre-season as oscar did. your theory fails right there. it makes no sense what so ever. just another lousy excuse concerning oscar.

oscar is not unfit. he is a professional footballer. read what "clockwork" wrote. it is completely different to yor argument. you use "conditioning" as an excuse while he uses physically drained as an excuse. are you saying that on his 2 weeks off, oscar just lies around on a barcalounger, doing nothing. i am sure thats not the case. he is a pro, and i am pretty sure he would be taking care of his body.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

willian had as much of a pre-season as oscar did. your theory fails right there. it makes no sense what so ever. just another lousy excuse concerning oscar.

oscar is not unfit. he is a professional footballer. read what "clockwork" wrote. it is completely different to yor argument. you use "conditioning" as an excuse while he uses physically drained as an excuse. are you saying that on his 2 weeks off, oscar just lies around on a barcalounger, doing nothing. i am sure thats not the case. he is a pro, and i am pretty sure he would be taking care of his body.

my word, you really are missing the point here, i tried to educate you, but you still dont understand something so basic, you clearly dont play any sports.

and as for Willian, has he not ever had a pre-season like Oscar? No, so your theory fails right there, and Willian's form in the 2nd half of the season was more down to him finally adapting to english football, Willian said this himself.

[Clockwork 1,794]

lol... but he does get time off. he got as much time off as any brazilian or german.

if this theory stands then why dint the same thing happen with willian? how did willian play average in the first half and then was mind blowing in the second? was he on drugs?

Sleep deprivation and lack of sleep does not equal no sleep at all. I used that example because i do acknowledge that Oscar does get some rest in the summer, his NT is not as grueling as his duty for Chelsea.

Willian was ridding the bench for Brazil first of all. Second of all just because a theory does not effect everyone the same it does not mean the theory is false. I will go back to the sleep example. Studies show that lack of proper sleep(6-8hours) damages our cognitive ability, they have done actually brain scan that shows that. But that does not mean some people are not better then others in functioning without sleep. I know some people who are like machines and sleep around 4hours a day.

You have the right to believe that Oscar will not do better next season, you can argue that of course. But i don't see how you can argue against the theory though.

Btw at the end of the season Mou said the same thing, he believes Oscar will do better next season and he argued the fact he will get proper rest in the summer as a main contributing factor.

Edited July 3, 2015 by Clockwork

[didierforever 7,349]

my word, you really are missing the point here, i tried to educate you, but you still dont understand something so basic, you are clearly not a sporting person.

how am i supposed to understand 2 different theories regarding the same thing.

apparently oscar's is physically exhausted, so he can only take his body to the halfway point and then it fails.

no, no.. its the lack of pre-season conditioning in which he is getting rest (which he should since his body is so completely over worked) that he affects him in jan?

also, the latter part is your theory, and does not explain willian at all. why did he have an average first half and a fab second.

these are some of the playing time stats that i got. it does not include internationals.

oscar willian hazard JT Matic

14-15 2,794 3244 4430 4470 4149

13-14 3,124 3330 3904 4085 3511

12-13 4,177 2,654 4513 2165 3896

total 10095 9228 12847 10720 11556

since, oscar joined chelsea, he has had less game time than JT. i am sorry but these excuses need to stop.

[Oscar 441]

Every thread turns to an Oscar thread!!

[lucio 5,418]

When was his last free summer? 2010? But either way, I think we can find a better cam than Oscar , even at his early season best

[JaKstone 307]

how am i supposed to understand 2 different theories regarding the same thing.

apparently oscar's is physically exhausted, so he can only take his body to the halfway point and then it fails.

no, no.. its the lack of pre-season conditioning in which he is getting rest (which he should since his body is so completely over worked) that he affects him in jan?

also, the latter part is your theory, and does not explain willian at all. why did he have an average first half and a fab second.

these are some of the playing time stats that i got. it does not include internationals.

oscar willian hazard JT Matic

14-15 2,794 3244 4430 4470 4149

13-14 3,124 3330 3904 4085 3511

12-13 4,177 2,654 4513 2165 3896

total 10095 9228 12847 10720 11556

since, oscar joined chelsea, he has had less game time than JT. i am sorry but these excuses need to stop.

You're obsessed with Oscar.

Please do me a favour you and other off topic fellas. Leave this fucking room and talk in private i want to see the end of the Turan story if he does or not come and all i get to see is random BS same with Griezmann thread

[didierforever 7,349]

Sleep deprivation and lack of sleep does not equal no sleep at all. I used that example because i do acknowledge that Oscar does get some rest in the summer, his NT is not as grueling as his duty for Chelsea.

Willian was ridding the bench for Brazil first of all. Second of all just because a theory does not apply to everyone does not mean the theory is false. I will go back to the sleep example. Studies show that lack of proper sleep(6-8hours) damages our cognitive ability, they have done actually brain scan that shows that. But that does not mean some people are not better then others in functioning without sleep. I know some people who are like machines and sleep around 4hours a day.

You have the right to believe that Oscar will not do better next season, you can argue that of course. But i don't see how you can argue against the theory though.

Btw at the end of the season Mou said the same thing, he believes Oscar will do better next season and he argued the fact he will get proper rest in the summer as a main contributing factor.

i have given the time distribution of oscar and the rest of the players. i believe me, these are the only players i checked for. if i do for iva i am damn sure i will get a very great number than oscar.

this oscar has been overplayed theory in itself is flawed. so you are telling me that the 300-400 minutes that oscar played more than willian in the WC were so damaging to his body that he he had 5 bad months?

there are exceptions to a theory. but a theory should atleast be correctly applied. using sleep deprivation to prove a point about oscar's continous poor showing is a poor analogy. oscar plays as much as any other pro footballer. a 100 more minutes here or there with the national team should not make him poor.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

how am i supposed to understand 2 different theories regarding the same thing.

apparently oscar's is physically exhausted, so he can only take his body to the halfway point and then it fails.

no, no.. its the lack of pre-season conditioning in which he is getting rest (which he should since his body is so completely over worked) that he affects him in jan?

also, the latter part is your theory, and does not explain willian at all. why did he have an average first half and a fab second.

these are some of the playing time stats that i got. it does not include internationals.

oscar willian hazard JT Matic

14-15 2,794 3244 4430 4470 4149

13-14 3,124 3330 3904 4085 3511

12-13 4,177 2,654 4513 2165 3896

total 10095 9228 12847 10720 11556

since, oscar joined chelsea, he has had less game time than JT. i am sorry but these excuses need to stop.

you simply dont understand the points that were made, so what you are saying really makes no sense to me.

[didierforever 7,349]

You're obsessed with Oscar.

says the guy who has been saying literally the same thing 10 times a day in the turan thread.