Rumoured Arda Turan

[JaKstone 307]

says the guy who has been saying literally the same thing 10 times a day in the turan thread.

And i do all that in the Turan thread.

[didierforever 7,349]

And i do all that in the Turan thread.

i was talking about obsessions. atleast i am talking about a chelsea player. not someone who most probably wont even be coming to chelsea. and all i did was join the discussion, which had anyways drifted towards oscar, you can read it, which is very weird if you think about it cos turan will be bought as a RW, willian will be the one who would be fighting oscar for the CAM role.

[Mechromancer 262]

I'm so happy for him. Barcelona is a nice place.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Did this guy really try and compare Oscar's situation with Willian? WOW.

2014 - World Cup

2013 - Confederations Cup

2012 - Olympics

2011 - U-20 World Cup

And he got to the final of every tournament apart from the World Cup where Brazil reached the semis.

[RhesusReus 219]

how am i supposed to understand 2 different theories regarding the same thing.

apparently oscar's is physically exhausted, so he can only take his body to the halfway point and then it fails.

no, no.. its the lack of pre-season conditioning in which he is getting rest (which he should since his body is so completely over worked) that he affects him in jan?

also, the latter part is your theory, and does not explain willian at all. why did he have an average first half and a fab second.

these are some of the playing time stats that i got. it does not include internationals.

oscar willian hazard JT Matic

14-15 2,794 3244 4430 4470 4149

13-14 3,124 3330 3904 4085 3511

12-13 4,177 2,654 4513 2165 3896

total 10095 9228 12847 10720 11556

since, oscar joined chelsea, he has had less game time than JT. i am sorry but these excuses need to stop.

First of all, comparing JT with Oscar when it comes to minutes spent on the pitch is erroneous.

Oscar has the second most demanding job on the pitch beside Matic. Oscar is the one who presses primarily, tracks back, and is part of the attack, be it counter or build-up. Meanwhile, JT is the most protected player on the pitch. He has Azpi tucked in beside him at all time to ensure that he is never isolated, he has Matic in front of him, and Courtois behind him, a keeper that covers an immense amount of ground. For more than 70% of those minuts, JT is just idling by, watching the game. While Oscar is busting his ass.

The only player to compare with Oscar in terms of output is Matic, but we all know Matic is a beast, a one of a kind DM with a massive engine, but even he, a monster, was drained and on dead legs as the season came to a close. What chance does Oscar have?

We play a system that demands so much of outfield players. There is a reason JT is still out there, and he himself admitted that it wouldn't be so if it weren't for the amount of work the midfielders put into the game.

We need a viable backup to Oscar. Cesc and Willian are not it. Jose pretty much ran the team into the ground in trying to win the EPL as early as possible. Some players like Oscar fell first, then Cesc, and then lastly Matic. But they all fell. It's unsustainable the demands, and we need viable backups. Turan is one for Oscar, and I hope we get one for Matic and Cesc, someone that can partner either when the other is rested.

[Pizy 18,866]

Fucking hell, guys. Enough about Oscar in here.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Oscar is a strong,young,fit man at the prime of his life and he should be as fit as a buchers dog not go into hibernation at the same time for the last 3 seasons.

This might sound daft but as Oscar has been good till late Dec/Jan time and Willian came into his own fortunately around that time. Why couldnt we treat them as 1 player? That way we would have a fit player all year round (barring bloody injuries of course)

Otherwise I think we should try if possible to upgrade both positions and I could see Turan being a good option.

[RhesusReus 219]

Josep Maria Bartomeu

✔ jmbartomeu

"The hiring @ ArdaTuran10line pending the Management Board to sign. It is a request for incorporation @ LUISENRIQUE21 " # Bartholomew

Seems he's Barca bound. Bartomeu is saying he's put a bid in. Turan may get the last word if we've put a bid in, but I doubt he'd want to leave Spain, or choose us over Barca.

[didierforever 7,349]

world cup 640

confed 405

olympics 460

total 1505

so basically 1500 minutes more with the NT (i wont even say "more" cos most of the players would be playing as much or atleast half of this) over the course of 3 years, averaging at 500 minutes per year. that too 500 minutes over the course of 2 months (since june and july are when these tournaments happen). i am suprised that oscar is able to even stand. i mean honestly, simply brilliant. hats off sir.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

world cup 640

confed 405

olympics 460

total 1505

so basically 1500 minutes more with the NT (i wont even say "more" cos most of the players would be playing as much or atleast half of this) over the course of 3 years, averaging at 500 minutes per year. that too 500 minutes over the course of 2 months (since june and july are when these tournaments happen). i am suprised that oscar is able to even stand. i mean honestly, simply brilliant. hats off sir.

once again you have missed the point, its not about how many minutes he played for Brazil, its about not ever having a pre-season!

[didierforever 7,349]

once again you have missed the point, its not about how many minutes he played for Brazil, its about not ever having a pre-season!

please read gilvorak's comment and tell me if i have missed the point.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

please read gilvorak's comment and tell me if i have missed the point.

yes you have

[didierforever 7,349]

yes you have

ok.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

ok.

:tophat:

[bluesman2610 1,417]

So is Turan not coming I wouldn't mind having him in the squad if he can create the same chemistry that Hazard Fabregas and Oscar have.. Plus his close control is very good which comes in handy when trying to break down teams set up in low block to defend the ability to dribble into crowded areas like hazard does and win free kicks and penalties..