The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not too worried about his injury because I do believe Bertrand can fill in easily. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not too worried about his injury because I do believe Bertrand can fill in easily.besides, Cole isn't getting any younger. Either we start playing Bertrand or we need to find a fit replacement.Fullbacks can't really go much further than 32 I'm afraid; they just rely too much on pace. The Skipper and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Jose said that he did not know about the injury when he took him off, so he did not ask to be subbed off which probably means it's not as bad as we thought. On the game, he was good in the second half, but in the first he got caught out so many times by the ball over his head.so not only is Jose a tactical genius but now he is psychic as well ...and to think Bushman called him clueless CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not too worried about his injury because I do believe Bertrand can fill in easily.Just Bertrand's luck that when there seems to be an opening for him there's an international break.Not surprised to see Ashley go off again today; Mourinho said he made the decision to take off Cole not knowing he was injured at the time. He did the same when chasing a result at Goodison. Ashley is our most expendable player when chasing a result - and/or we go with a back 3 - considering Ivanovic isn't exactly Cafu going forward that says an awful lot about Ashley's offensive contribution. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/07/ashley-cole-england-world-cup-qualifier?CMP=twt_guCole ruled out of English's WCQ against Montenegro this Friday.No other extra information mentioned in there.Anyway, even if he's back available for the Cardiff game, I'm just hoping Mourinho rest him and play Bertrand instead against them. No need to flog Cole (and some others actually) to death by playing him in almost every game when there is a dependable back-up player available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Might sound controversial (it shouldn't really) but Baines should have been first choice LB now whether or not Ashley is available. It's funny how England talk about having quality, technical football players etc but haven't gone with Baines sooner. Ashley is a great defender, but Baines isn't bad himself then there's his ability in open-play, freekicks and set-pieces. Baines is clearly the better player, it's not even close now in my honest opinion. Stats, Mufassir08 and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_juan 64 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Might sound controversial (it shouldn't really) but Baines should have been first choice LB now whether or not Ashley is available. It's funny how England talk about having quality, technical football players etc but haven't gone with Baines sooner. Ashley is a great defender, but Baines isn't bad himself then there's his ability in open-play, freekicks and set-pieces. Baines is clearly the better player, it's not even close now in my honest opinion.Considering the first job of a left back is to defend, baines is not even close to displacing Cole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Fullbacks can't really go much further than 32 I'm afraid; they just rely too much on pace.Maldini would say lol CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Maldini would say lol Zanetti would say LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Maldini would say lol Zanetti would say LMAO touchethough it's the same as citing Franco Baresi to make a point CB's don't have to be tall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Considering the first job of a left back is to defend, baines is not even close to displacing Cole.Baines is a more than adequate defender; sure Ashley is a better defender, but the drop-off in quality isn't anywhere close to what you imagine to be.There is however a massive difference in what they offer going forward and Baines is FAR superior, so much that it's not even close.Simply put: Ashley is the better defender but Baines is the better footballer. Now you decide who would be more useful to England/Chelsea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_juan 64 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Baines is a more than adequate defender; sure Ashley is a better defender, but the drop-off in quality isn't anywhere close to what you imagine to be.There is however a massive difference in what they offer going forward and Baines is FAR superior, so much that it's not even close.Simply put: Ashley is the better defender but Baines is the better footballer. Now you decide who would be more useful to England/Chelsea?"Baines is a better footballer" OK then, I am out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 "Baines is a better footballer" OK then, I am outLook, Cole is a better defender but not a superior defender as Baines is not a weak link in defence. He just loves going forward but is superiority going forward outweighs Cole's better defensive ability. As a fullback it is good to defend but in the game nowadays the fullbacks get forward much more and it is an added bonus. England would be much more of a threat with Baines in the team. I cannot even recall that much games where I would say Baines was a weak link in defence. Cole was the best LB in the prem if not the world but now I reckon it is time that he gets replaced by both club and country imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Thing with Cole is he is a super defender but he is an absolute terrible crosser of a ball and really offers little going forward.Baines is a more rounded individual who ticks every box possible really. His stamina and work ethic is brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 10, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 10, 2013 Thing with Cole is he is a super defender but he is an absolute terrible crosser of a ball and really offers little going forward.Baines is a more rounded individual who ticks every box possible really. His stamina and work ethic is brilliant.Baines is an excellent LB who is currently probably better than Cole, but he's been grossly overrated by the media; he is no where near world-class like Cole was up till 2010. Bosnian Blue, Rambo, robsblubot and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Baines is an excellent LB who is currently probably better than Cole, but he's been grossly overrated by the media; he is no where near world-class like Cole was up till 2010.He isn't world class that is for sure but he is a brilliant LB. His game is so rounded it's hard to find a fault in it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 10, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 10, 2013 He isn't world class that is for sure but he is a brilliant LB. His game is so rounded it's hard to find a fault in it really.Plenty of defensive faults that get overlooked. Just go watch their game against Cardiff this season where Bellamy made a fool of him all game. Yet, he still got MOTM even though he was probably one of Everton's worst men on the pitch. That's what I mean by grossly overrated by the media. Tomo, Bosnian Blue, The only place to be and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I hope he'll be fit in two week's time, he was needing a bit of a rest anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3491470/title/cole-out-of-england-qualifierCole to miss England v Poland game. Still suffering from that rib injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 He will be fine at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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