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i would rather get a good non english HG midfielder like schneiderlin , than an average guy like shelvey or delph. (i dont think the likes of barkley/ox are attainable) .

the young guys can't play much right now, if we are trying to win the league.

That is the problem. However I do hope the likes of Chalobah, Baker and Lofty Cheek get a fair chance one season. I especially like Baker, what a player. In an ideal world those three would be our future midfield trio, but I'll celebrate if even one of them gets through.

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Yup, I remember that day, Henry still playing for Arsenal and Wenger said something that his 3rd gk who is English was injured, if not he will play him.

No that was Arsenal.

I said starting XI.

First club to field an all-foreign starting XI: Chelsea (v Southampton), December 26, 1999.

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The Guardia also reports this as true:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/11/manchester-united-foreign-team


It was Boxing Day 1999 that Gianluca Vialli became the first manager of an English club to select a side devoid of Englishmen," said the article below about a starting lineup for Manchester United. In fact, Vialli seems to have been pipped by Walter Galbraith, manager of Accrington Stanley – in April 1955. For a league match against York City, Galbraith fielded a team composed entirely of his fellow Scots.

Gianluca Vialla was the first manager to field a starting XI in the premier league with no Englishmen.

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I said starting XI.

First club to field an all-foreign starting XI: Chelsea (v Southampton), December 26, 1999.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-337865/English-footballs-trailblazing-foreigners.html#ixzz3IgPJEk63

Hmm, just knowing that. I thought it was Arsenal at first, because of all the fussed from media after they did that.

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It does n't look good.

In the summer England resembled Pierikos of Katerini, with "our" Stevie expected to pull things out of the fire.

The question I 'd ask is what English players are there abroad in top class teams, as that might even up things.

What could be the answer ?

All systems failed.

English players were told not to kick the ball high in the air, some Beckhams and Rooneys came forward over the years but no juice.

Everybody else has something to show. Germany, Holland, Spain, France win world cups-euros and never sink too low. The Dutch though their league is unimportant now did very well in the world cup. But England teams are like falling stars. You see them now, next they disappear.

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Shaw cost more than 30M£, a left back that did nothing in football cost more than Fabregas, Costa, Matic,, Filipe Luis, almost any player in our team (in reality he would have been maybe the most expensive player in the squad) . We can't buy a left back for that price, and for sure not one that did nothing in his carrer.

4 seasons ago Real Madrid paid 25M€ for Coentrão the best LB in the world cup of 2010, and every one thought it was too much... image almost 40M€...

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Ryan Bertrand is having ten times the season that Shaw is having. There are tens of LBs in the world that are better than Luke Shaw.

Yeah Ryan would be a better English LB then Shaw.

But our problem is that we didn't give him much chances and thus used Azpi.

While Azpi is good, but when even Mourinho prefers Azpi over then Ryan then you know how tough it is for English players.

So not also the club problem but managers as well. Here clearly Mourinho preferred a foreign over an English player.

And it's the right move at the moment since Azpi is much better then Ryan.

Can't have it both ways @Term-X,

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Kind of hard to get English players into the team when they all suck.

I think England teams will be going through a stage now with a lot of foreign players, because most of the golden age of English has gone (Owen, Beckham, Shearer, Hargreaves) or they are past their prime like Cole, Cole, Lamps, Rio ect.. so there is bound to be less English players in the bigger teams if the big teams want to compete with others in Europe. The thing is though, a lot of English clubs are now following other countries values and are putting effort into youth and young players, now we have youngsters coming through and being played reguarly like Chambers, Wilshere, Barkley, Studger and Sterling ect. So I doubt this will be a problem in the future, although I find it hard to see any of our English players or youngsters breaking into the future of this team at the moment.

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Don't mean to be rude but i find myself chuckling that some of you believe we will promote youth players, just because Mou said so. Lets be honest Mou has never been a specalist in bringing up youth players and integrating them into the first team.

England clubs in general have a problem in developing English players. The increase revenues and popularity of PL have come at a cost, the development of young players have been neglacted. With so much money at each club disposel, the easier path is buying foreign players rather then developing one. When you look at the lack of talent in the England NT it is quite obvious how poor this league is in developing young players.

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Don't mean to be rude but i find myself chuckling that some of you believe we will promote youth players, just because Mou said so. Lets be honest Mou has never been a specalist in bringing up youth players and integrating them into the first team.

England clubs in general have a problem in developing English players. The increase revenues and popularity of PL have come at a cost, the development of young players have been neglacted. With so much money at each club disposel, the easier path is buying foreign players rather then developing one. When you look at the lack of talent in the England NT it is quite obvious how poor this league is in developing young players.

He's never been a specialist due to him having an average of 3 years at any club. Managerial stability = Youth integration.

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He's never been a specialist due to him having an average of 3 years at any club. Managerial stability = Youth integration.

It's the second season. We should have at least seen some promise.

If by next season we see nothing, then we will never will no matter who is at the club.

That's the reality if this day and age of PL dominance.

As @Joker10, said that big money in the PL is also making it hard for even lower clubs to develop youth. Because they can now afford to buy ready made foreign players from another league and what not.

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