Nike 373 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Catalyunia's greatest ever era has nothing to do with the fact it was Barca's core that had made up the Spanish system that won their world cup? Take a day off mate. Alonso. Torres. Cesc. Ramos. Casillas. Villa. Capdevilla. were not barca's core.Take a day off mate. Spain's best team was their 2008 team, not their world cup team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Alonso. Torres. Cesc. Ramos. Casillas. Villa. Capdevilla. were not barca's core.Take a day off mate. Spain's best team was their 2008 team, not their world cup team.Yet it was Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Puyol, and Pique who played every minute of every game in Spain's proudest moment on the international stage. Barca's core was ultimately the main triggers in Spain's international dominance, in which all 5 were academy products brought up in Barca's system. And in the season prior, Barca become the first team to win the sixtuplet. Definitely not Catalyunia's greatest era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yet it was Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Puyol, and Pique who played every minute of every game in Spain's proudest moment on the international stage. Barca's core was ultimately the main triggers in Spain's international dominance, in which all 5 were academy products brought up in Barca's system. And in the season prior, Barca become the first team to win the sixtuplet. Definitely not Catalyunia's greatest era. But thy didn't play every minute of every game and no one gives a shit about club world cup and super cup and supercopa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 1-2 brazilians doesnt repesent a whole nation....It's too bad because Neymar will be the next generation god, just like messi and cr7 was to this generation... No he won't. He'll be a great player but every generation has countless great players. He won't reach Messi or Cristiano's level.Your 18 years old...I highly doubt you saw Ronaldo at his peak.. You're*Quite frankly, you are irrelevant to the topic than....So, your telling me that you watch half his games on vhs? Frankly, I highly doubt a kid thats 5-6 year old remember Ronaldo games on television.. You must be a child prodigy if you can recall that stuff... Shit, I dont even remember my grade school teacher's names...Just cause we weren't watching football at the time Ronaldo was at his peak doesn't mean we can't look stuff up. Have family who saw him, read comparisons, etc. I love boxing, and I have seen iver 15 Ali fights, over 30 Julio Cesar Chavez fights, and countless Hearns, Leonard, Duran and Hagler fights. Messi was the best player in this generation, but even the argentinas dont recognize the greatness of Messi, while maradonna is a god there.Neymar is already a few goals away from Messi internationally at 5 years his junior and already has 9 goals in 9 games this season coming back from his world cup injury. One can imagine, how good neymar would be statisically, if he was given the free role. The same role, where in brazil he scored as many goals as messi in less games....I never understood the versatility comment. Everyone had to play for Messi after the r10 era... It was so evident in this world cup and the exact reason why aguero sucked balls. Ronaldo at his peak was untouchable as was Ronaldinho. r9+r10 peak >Messi's peak. Ask catalans about it, they still say r10 was the best era of football for them.How do you know what these entire group if people think? Neymar has scored the majority of his international goals in a ridiculous amount of friendlies. But thy didn't play every minute of every game and no one gives a shit about club world cup and super cup and supercopa....1. Spains starting XI for the WC final had 6 barca products. 2. People do care about winning those trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No he won't. He'll be a great player but every generation has countless great players. He won't reach Messi or Cristiano's level.You're*Just cause we weren't watching football at the time Ronaldo was at his peak doesn't mean we can't look stuff up. Have family who saw him, read comparisons, etc. I love boxing, and I have seen iver 15 Ali fights, over 30 Julio Cesar Chavez fights, and countless Hearns, Leonard, Duran and Hagler fights.How do you know what these entire group if people think?Neymar has scored the majority of his international goals in a ridiculous amount of friendlies.1. Spains starting XI for the WC final had 6 barca products.2. People do care about winning those trophies.Neymar goals....courtesy of redcafe.Neymar has scored goals in everything that was put in front of him for brazil. He cannot control who brazil faces...Messi has only 5 goals in his world cup career and cr7 has 3 goals....Neymar got 4 goals in 4 matches and would of had more had he not gotten injured.... Neymar is a scoring machine... The idea that none of the records can be broken is farced, because Neymar is the one that can break it. Also, no people dont care because r10 brought joy to barcelona and saved them from mediocrity. No ronaldinho, messi would have been existed. Primary difference between ronaldo vs messi is that ronaldo can do everything messi can, but not vice versa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Primary difference between ronaldo vs messi is that ronaldo can do everything messi can, but not vice versa... exactly. messi can not do everything that CR can. problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 exactly. messi can not do everything that CR can. problem solved. its true, however, cr7 cannot due much of what messi can do....I guess it depends who one rates more. For me, Messi is significantly better than cr7. However, there are a ton of things cr7 can do that Messi can't and vice versa...But the point was Ronaldo can do everything Messi can, not Cristiano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 its true, however, cr7 cannot due much of what messi can do....I guess it depends who one rates more. For me, Messi is significantly better than cr7. However, there are a ton of things cr7 can do that Messi can't and vice versa...But the point was Ronaldo can do everything Messi can, not Cristiano. The reality is that ROnaldo was a ST and scored less goals in his carreer than Messi and Crisitano that are not ST in less 7 or 8 years. Ronaldo was a bad professional, and had a lot opf problems with injuries, without than maybe he could be comparable with Messi or Cristiano.ANd about Neymar he is great, will be Ballon d'Or for sure... but at that age Crsitiano and Messi were already winning that kind of prizes. Neymar is still far from that level, he won't reach the level of Messi and Cristiano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Barcelona star Lionel Messi has made the astonishing revelation that he could leave Barcelona – putting Chelsea and Manchester City on high alert.The Argentine has come under criticism for his below par performances during the past year that has seen him eclipsed by Cristiano Ronaldo as the world’s best player.Speculation he was leaving for City last season was ended when he signed a new deal with Barca and now, despite saying he is content, he revealed he could one day leave the Catalan club.“Today I am living the present. I want to have a great season and win every title at Barcelona. And nothing else. Then we will see. Football takes many turns,” he told Argentinian newspaper OLE.“While I’ve always said I’d like to stay there forever (at Barcelona), sometimes not everything happens the way you want. In football things change and lots of things happen. It is complicated, especially because of the Barcelona situation.”When asked about the criticism he has faced in recent times, Messi said: “People say a lot of things about me. I get criticised for so many things that nothing surprises me anymore. It’s habitual, normal I’d say, so I try not to listen to it.“”I would like to have played better (during the Word Cup) in the semi-final and the final. But games can go like that sometimes. But had I scored a goal in the final my World Cup could have been said to be ‘spectacular’ [by my critics].“It would have been nice to play well in every game. Those two weren’t my best, but I don’t think they were that bad either.”http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2014/11/lionel-messi-hints-leave-barca-alerting-chelsea-man-city/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+offthepost%2FTLAa+%28Off+The+Post%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special Eden 78 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 if Messi leaves barca, are we a likely destination?positives:-Messi`s girlfriend is best friend with Cesc`s girlfriend and it seems that they are good friends. The kids is bf too -London-We are a Adidas club, benefits for Messi, Chelsea and Adidas. I read last year that Adidas are willing to help us out with some of the fee.. would be nice But i can really see him go to City too. His best friend is Aguero and there is so many argentines leaving in Manchester. The question are if City can cope with FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I said it before, I would be surprised if both Messi and cr7 retired at barcelona and madrid, respectively...I can see them going to another big club before they go back to their respective country leagues...James to be the new face of Madrid and Neymar to takeover barcelona...Nothing every lasts forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Only club Messi will go to is Newell's. Barca literally gave everything to Messi and his family, there is no way he would play for another top club in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If he leaves it will be probaly club where Pep is going to be. But I dont think he will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special Eden 78 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/537626/Lionel-Messi-Transfer-News-Man-United-Chelsea-Man-Citymore rumours.people talking of witch clubs that can afford his 200£m clause.. No club in the world would pay that!! Looks like Barcelona and Messi don't get along no more, then I assume a fee around 100£, or? If Messi want a move to us, I really hope we splash the cash Always being a big fan of good cheap deals like Fabregas, Costa. I love the new buying mentality to the club, but here we have the worlds best player! Chelsea would make a LOT of publicity and get in a huge amount of money from Adidas, sponsors and fans.But if we get Reus, I never see this gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordblues 299 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 been reading rubbish about messi leaving barca,no thanks i`d rather stick with hazard all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 IF we signed Messi ,,,,he would get injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Reports claim Messi will return to Chelsea after being loaned to Barca since 2003. Abramovich though that Leo simply wasnt tall enough to play at SB, but now, is ready to allow him re-join with Mou team. However, John Obi Mikel, mastermind behind scenes and occasional Chelsea player says he has solution for both Messi and Roman; Messi will have to play with boots on heels to look taller. Terry was so happy when he heard those news that he shagged Mikels wife and Courtois eventualy joined the party that ended in brutal fight. Ivan and Matic thought they will clean the bodies before it gets viral, but they were pictured with russian mobsters. Roman who was caught in the picture too is now in prision, meanwhile both serbs, now former chelsea players escaped somewhere to Mexico. Happy days for Messi though who will now not need to play in heels for his new club, as Roman is no longer the owner anymore. People wonder, how is it possible that Messi moved to Chelsea after so many years at barca; well the answer has one word: Eva. This is how stupid it sounds when some press says Messi will join us or someone else...the chances of him signing for us are as big as the reality of that story above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Around 60% of AS readers believe Lionel Messi wants out following comments made to Argentinian newspaper Olé. http://as.com/diarioas/2014/11/20/english/1416517671_245135.html … #FCBSpanish newspaper Diario @sport says #CFC or #MCFC are the most likely destinations for Messi in England. Link: http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/los-cuatro-clubs-que-pueden-comprar-messi-3703135 … #FCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Messi. WillNotGo AnywherePeriod. Except newells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The Guardian speculates further about Messi leaving Barcelona due to him feeling singled out over his tax trial and how non-catalan sportsman have been able to settle matters out of court but not him.Now I am pretty certain that he is going nowhere, but suppose that he is available on the market, is it not obvious where he would go?There are currently two clubs in the world who have the economic muscles to pay whatever record-breaking fee Messi would cost and not get in trouble with ffp, and those clubs are Manchester United and Bayern Munich.One is the best team in Europe with Messi's old pal Guardiola managing it, the other is a mid-table house of cards not even playing in CL.BM just released a statement basically saying that they are extremely rich, and there arent really that many players in the world that would improve them. I would say that it is like 90% that Messi stays in Barcelona, and 90% that if he leaves it will be for BM. Still, a pretty nice fantasy if he ended up in Chelsea. This is after all the best player in the world, and his stats are mental in every way. We would probably have to sell say Oscar/another key player for an inflated fee to be able to afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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