pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 10 hours ago, Jype said: ”There is no way that he can continue to play for Chelsea, a message which has been communicated various times to those in charge there” - Diego Costa’s lawyer Ricardo Caraso Still think Costa is ready to fulfill his contractual obligations? After such statement by his lawyer I somehow doubt it. He wants out just as much as the club want him to get out, the only problem is that Atletico aren’t willing to pay and he’s refusing to go anywhere else. Why can’t players be frozen after asking for a transfer though? Clubs often decide not to field players who have asked for moves and sometimes even exclude them from training because their head is not in it anymore. If that move for one reason or another never materializes that doesn’t mean the club should be obligated to welcome the player back with open arms and play him ahead of more loyal and committed members of the squad, it’s just not how it works in a team game. Also Costa, by repeatedly asking for a move, alienated himself from the club to the point where he got replaced by another player in Morata. Signing the replacement most likely means that the club won’t have enough room for Diego to be registered in the squad lists for PL & CL, therefore making it impossible for him to even appear in the club’s official games. It was said that ’sporting just cause’ terminations are handled on a case-by-case basis with all facts taken into consideration from both sides. If Costa’s incident were to be tried in court, I’m pretty sure the outcome would be ruled in favor of the club. Aside from his transfer demands that have already forced the club to sign a replacement to take his place in the squad there’s also cases to be argued for disrupting team chemistry, lack of match fitness etc. as reasons for not playing him. This so called ’sporting just cause’ as grounds for termination seems to me something like crystal clear bullying and forcing a good professional out of the action without a valid reason, only that’s not what is happening with Costa because there sure as hell is a good reason why he’s not in the first team squad anymore. It’s his own toxic actions that got him frozen out and replaced in the first place so playing the victim card now would really be something to behold. Making a quick search I kind of found a precedenting case too. David Albelda, at the time club captain of Valencia who had just signed a new contract too, was forced out of the first team by incoming manager Ronald Koeman without an explanation back in 2007. He then later sued his club for termination of the contract and lost, being forced to stay and train with the youngsters. Of course in his case it wasn’t a full season spent on the sidelines but still, it’s at least some precedent to note that the clubs aren’t necessarily obligated by the contracts to involve the players in first team football. As history knows Albelda then stayed at Valencia for five more years having been welcomed back into the fold after Koeman got sacked so we never got to see if release from contract would’ve happened later. With Albelda I think there might even have been grounds for termination if it went on for a full season because there really was no other reason for his exile other than Koeman not liking him, but with Costa there are other factors at play too with his constant disruptive behavior and transfer demands. Anyway, not much point arguing further because we’re clearly never going to agree on this and either way there’s still a very slim chance of something like this even happening. If a move won’t be agreed in this window, it’s likely that Costa will be frozen out till end of the year and then sold in January at the very latest. If for some reason Costa is still at the club after the winter transfer window and still out of the first team we can talk about this more. Intentionally or not, this words has been badly taken out of context. Costa' lawyer are not saying that Diego doesn't want to return. He pointed out that the "unfair" behavior of Antonio Conte makes his return "impossible". And words "a message which has been communicated various times to those in charge there" are refering to "he will not play for any other club which is not Atletico Madrid". Club' decision to keep him away from squad are only confirming it. Conte' words about "For me the situation is closed" are only confirming it.The club closed the doors for Costa, not other way around. Player can be isolated from the squad for a certain period of time for whatever reasons, but not for a whole season. That's the point. Thing is, this situation won't go to the court simply because club wouldn't bench him for a whole season as they don't have grounds for this. And he didn't forced club to sign any replacement for him. A months before we signed Morata, Costa publicly stated that he prefers to stay at Chelsea. Albelda' case are absolutely different from "let him rot in reserves for a whole season". Albelda already played 18 games before Koeman decided to axe him. So there's no point to refer to it. Anyway, thanks for civilised conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Chelsea informed costa about his future last January, and not via a text message this June. Going by how we are selling certain players to rivals just to get more money, I wouldnt be surprised it was chelsea who wanted to sell costa to china for 80m... Obviously conte and costa might had personal bust up which led to chelsea wanting to sell costa, but to say costa wanted to leave chelsea for china is unfair to diego aswell. Diego said he would never join china because he wants to stay competitive for wc. Fernando, Essien19 and pHaRaOn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 10 hours ago, BlueLyon said: Going by how we are selling certain players to rivals just to get more money, I wouldnt be surprised it was chelsea who wanted to sell costa to china for 80m... Obviously conte and costa might had personal bust up which led to chelsea wanting to sell costa, but to say costa wanted to leave chelsea for china is unfair to diego aswell. Diego said he would never join china because he wants to stay competitive for wc. Nah that market no sense, why do we want to sell Costa to China when we are on the top of the table? That make no sense. Selling to rival actually make sense because they are the only team willing to match the price that we set. We sold a 29 years old wantaway mid for 40 m. Yes it is to direct rival, but who else willing to pay our asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Â Fernando and Leif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, Artandur said: Â he can play with the reserves for a while... maybe then, he will accept a move to milan or to other clubs. he wants to play, to be ready for the world cup so he wont accept to play with the reserves for too long. kellzfresh and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStorm1003 539 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, Artandur said: Â As if that last line mattered at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Simeone is going to quit if he sees AC Milan signing Costa because Atletico's board was penny-pinching. xPetrCechx, Leif and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Costa was cunt, but who cares? He was a massive player. Conte only got himself to blame if things go wrong this season. He made his choice, now he must prove it was the right choice. Actually I believe Conte is not happy in recent weeks because he was exposed. Probably he never thought Costa would say to everyone that he was told to go and he probably wanted Costa sold before the start of pre season. Yesterday he was far from happy when asked the big question: why Morata/Batshuay instead of Costa? I know that if things go wrong people will blame Marina/Emenalo for not getting Sandro and selling Matic to United, but the MASSIVE gamble came from Conte: allowing Costa to leave.  Anyway, I hope Morata can become the deal of the season and can score around 30 goals this season and Conte's decision about Costa is the right decision at the end of the day, but I'm far from optimistic.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, Henrique said: Costa was cunt, but who cares? He was a massive player. Conte only got himself to blame if things go wrong this season. He made his choice, now he must prove it was the right choice. Actually I believe Conte is not happy in recent weeks because he was exposed. Probably he never thought Costa would say to everyone that he was told to go and he probably wanted Costa sold before the start of pre season. Yesterday he was far from happy when asked the big question: why Morata/Batshuay instead of Costa? I know that if things go wrong people will blame Marina/Emenalo for not getting Sandro and selling Matic to United, but the MASSIVE gamble came from Conte: allowing Costa to leave.  Anyway, I hope Morata can become the deal of the season and can score around 30 goals this season and Conte's decision about Costa is the right decision at the end of the day, but I'm far from optimistic.  Costa already wanted out in the beginning of the season but Atletico went for another striker. (Costa admitted so himself) Then halfway through the season Reliable news outlets reported he wanted out again. After that his form went to shit. While it wasn't smart to send that text it was Costa who kickstarted this all. Only so many times you can ask to leave before the club tells you to fuck off themselves.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said: Costa already wanted out in the beginning of the season but Atletico went for another striker. (Costa admitted so himself) Then halfway through the season Reliable news outlets reported he wanted out again. After that his form went to shit. While it wasn't smart to send that text it was Costa who kickstarted this all. Only so many times you can ask to leave before the club tells you to fuck off themselves.  Costa knew in January he would be sold come the summer. The message was more of a reminder of this. Costa being the bitch that he is made a big fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Diego Costa will be a 'big miss' for Chelsea, says Gary Cahill  https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/diego-costa-will-be-a-big-miss-for-chelsea-says-gary-cahill-a3607476.html  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, xPetrCechx said: Diego Costa will be a 'big miss' for Chelsea, says Gary Cahill  https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/diego-costa-will-be-a-big-miss-for-chelsea-says-gary-cahill-a3607476.html  I know he got made captain, didn't realise he got made captain obvious tho umm lol. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 If Costa wants "Only Madrid" he should lower his wage demands so that the club can afford the transfer fee. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,913 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I don't speak Spanish here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don't speak Spanish here... Agreement reached for 45M Euros. Problem is Chelsea want half the money now - Atleti want to pay in three instalments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 We aren't a catalogue company, pay now or do one. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I don't see why structured payment should be a huge problem as long as the money is coming at some point and I don't see Atletico going bankrupt anytime soon. As far as I know paying transfers in installments is pretty common when talking about figures as large as that. Just get it done ffs, I'm sick of this saga already. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I just hope we get the money before the transfer window closes so that we can buy somebody. We need the money to spend on someone else. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 hours ago, bluephoenix said: I just hope we get the money before the transfer window closes so that we can buy somebody. We need the money to spend on someone else. Â We have enough money to buy players without selling costa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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