James Rodríguez

[Tomo 21,751]

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One of Antonio Conte’s many successes at Chelsea this season is restoring cohesion and camaraderie to a fractured, cliquish team. James Rodriguez’s immature and entitled attitude would undermine Conte’s work.

Earlier this week Antonio Conte spoke of his “Chelsea family” as he made a surprise appearance at the staff Christmas party. Around the same time, Chelsea transfer target James Rodriguez took the occasion of Real Madrid winning the Club World Cup to vent his frustration about his lack of playing time. James drew a public rebuke from Real captain Sergio Ramos for his comments on offers and “a bitter feeling.”

James’ comments are not the first time he has placed himself well ahead of his club. As the Metro notes, James has a lengthy history of anti-club and anti-coach behaviours. He took a feud with former Real Madrid coach Rafael Benitez onto Twitter. He has been the last to return to training from vacation. And he has openly favoured his time with Colombia’s national team over his time at Real.

It’s troubling with James. He has the wonderful opportunity to be asking Zinedine Zidane questions. You’re with Cristiano Ronaldo, Zidane, all of these people at Real Madrid. And you’re finding ways to be upset with this! If anything, take it as a couple of year long course in becoming a better footballer. – Barrett Rouen, The Blue Lions (iTunes)

One of this season’s many joys for Chelsea fans – aside from the six point lead atop the Premier League – is the sincere happiness and friendship among the players and staff. Every time Diego Costa hugs Antonio Conte or a goal-scorer kisses the badge, Jose Mourinho’s drama and the Blues’ hang-dog faces fall farther into the past.

Charismatic youngsters like Michy Batshuayi and Nathaniel Chalobah are sharing laughs with the veteran players. For the first time in years, Chelsea players are happy to be together and happy to wear Blue.

James Rodriguez could undermine this hard-won cohesion and the club’s new ethos of earning your way spot. Chelsea has established stars like Cesc Fabregas and a legend like John Terry fighting for any playing time they can get. James, as a £50 million+ transfer, could circumvent that path. But that would be no guarantee of improving his attitude.

No professional wants to not play. But you’re at Real Madrid, where even not playing you’re becoming a better footballer. Be a pro, make the most of your chances, get the transfer to where you want to go. Or, earn your way into the squad.

Chelsea and Antonio Conte have come too far in all areas of the game to let one player jeopardize their success. James has plenty of talent, but lacks the maturity Conte demands and Chelsea deserves.

http://theprideoflondon.com/2016/12/22/james-rodriguez-attitude/

 

[Cranky 0]

22 minutes ago, Leif said:

I maintain that the 1 team on earth he is made for, and would be more than happy to have him, is Barcelona. With the amount of possession they have and whatnot, he is the perfect player for retaining the ball and passing it to more talented teammate while also offering a Dani Alves-type defensive cover. Some players are shit for a lot of teams, but superb for others. That's just how it works in football. And regardless of the terrible performances we've sometimes seen from Willian, he's shown a plethora of qualities which others, just not us, would benefit from. He isn't a Premier League type player, but put him in Serie A or La Liga and he'll be amongst the top 10-15 players in the league. 

We didn't target him for nothing. He obviously has a very impressive player in him. Just like Salah was shit here, and has exploded in Serie A. Both are brimming with potential which we as we often do failed to unlock. 

As you said Willian would very likely do great in Seria A as I also think it suits him. But he has been with us like 3 years and it's safe to say he won't improve. He has good games here and there, but I really don't remember an outstanding match where he performed and won us a game alone. Each time we go in a game I feel like that flank is always dead especially when Willian plays, Pedro has been overall good this season despite his form dipping in the last month.

 

We can't get Sanchez, I don't believe Mahrez is an upgrade, Dybala is a pipe dream, James is likely the only top class player available right now,  good enough to dispatch both Willian and Pedro. When there is an opportunity to sign such a player you don't simply say no, let alone he is very marketable and even if he flops we can always sell him to China because as I said he is very marketable player, even more than Oscar.

[Pizy 18,994]

If the €70m figure is true I don't know why that would be a problem. A player like James for €10m net after the Oscar sale is good business. Huge upgrade on Oscar in every way.

[LAM09 7,069]

You're probably right. My answer then would be Julian Brandt, because I think he's turning into the player we all thought Schurrle had the potential to become. 
When I mention such players, I'm keeping in mind the hope and belief that Conte can transcend players, in a way unlike any other manager on earth at the moment.

He does look like an interesting prospect. Seems to tick a lot of boxes.

[the wes 7,212]

http://www.espnfc.com/story/3024932/juventus-interested-in-madrids-james-rodriguez-but-no-julian-draxler-bid

Juventus are interested in rodriguez 

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

If the €70m figure is true I don't know why that would be a problem. A player like James for €10m net after the Oscar sale is good business. Huge upgrade on Oscar in every way.

Yeah, and Jermaine Beckford would have been an upgrade on Torres, doesn't mean we should have got him when Fernando left. Im not saying Rodriquez is that level just saying two wrong's don't make a right.

[BoyBlue96 990]

He IS overvalued at €60/70 million. Have to agree with the club on this one.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

James Rodríguez (ID: 198710)

 CAM CM RM

Age 24

(Jul 12, 1991) 5'11" 165lbs

http://sofifa.com/player/198710

 

someone posted this in the comments section on this player profile

 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

3 hours ago, iceboy said:

AS is reporting that we are not ready to pay 70m for him. 

"Según informa hoy The Sun"...

They quote The Sun on this. Would not read to much into it. 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

6 hours ago, LAM09 said:

 

Point someone out that does both and is available?

 

There isn't one which is precisely why you don't lump up 60m or whatever it is unless you get exactly what you need. For what James offers there are cheaper options.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

3 hours ago, Cranky said:

How is that even trolling, Willian wouldn't get bought by any top club, let alone get his contract extended for 4 free kicks which were more or less deflected. James is class and the fact we are willingly to try and look at other places despite reports saying he wants to join us, baffles me. We aren't even breaking the bank for him just using the Oscar money.

I think that the presumed Oscar money is a non-argument.

If James wasn't worth €70 million before we had the Oscar cash, then he isn't suddenly worth it now. What's the point collecting a good fee, if all you do then is blow it on a player you don't consider to be worth the cost of his transfer?

The primary factors to consider are; does the manager want the player, and does the player warrant the size of transfer fee likely to be negotiated.

The only way the Oscar deal should come into the equation is if we always believed James to be worth his fee, but we could not previously afford it. If that's the situation, then fine. I say again however, if James wasn't thought worth €70 million to Chelsea before then he still isn't worth it now, no matter how much we get for Oscar. 

[LAM09 7,069]

There isn't one which is precisely why you don't lump up 60m or whatever it is unless you get exactly what you need. For what James offers there are cheaper options.

I agree and said as much a few pages back. Better options available that suit our needs.

[LAM09 7,069]

There isn't one which is precisely why you don't lump up 60m or whatever it is unless you get exactly what you need. For what James offers there are cheaper options.

I agree and said as much a few pages back. Better options available that suit our needs.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, the wes said:

http://www.espnfc.com/story/3024932/juventus-interested-in-madrids-james-rodriguez-but-no-julian-draxler-bid

Juventus are interested in rodriguez 

Putting us aside for a moment, why the hell would Juve want Rodriguez? Haven't they got enough players already?

[the wes 7,212]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Putting us aside for a moment, why the hell would Juve want Rodriguez? Haven't they got enough players already?

I know mate they seem to be after axel witsel aswell

http://www.espnfc.com/story/3024554/juventus-happy-to-bide-time-to-sign-axel-witsel-from-zenit-st-petersburg

[BlueLyon 9,359]

46 minutes ago, Jason said:

Putting us aside for a moment, why the hell would Juve want Rodriguez? Haven't they got enough players already?

They were linked with Hamsik in summer but deal fell off.

Not sure if Pjanic was replacement, but probably not.

Funny tho, how juve is splashing the cash these days and they have worst team than one under Conte where they paid less than half of Higuain fee for Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba and Tevez.

If Conte was given those funds, he would probably win CL at one point. Current Juve, I doubt.

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think that the presumed Oscar money is a non-argument.

If James wasn't worth €70 million before we had the Oscar cash, then he isn't suddenly worth it now.

But he is/was. In this market, 60M is a minimum for a player of his calibre.

[Leif 6,006]

58 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

But he is/was. In this market, 60M is a minimum for a player of his calibre.

It doesn't have to be that way. If some key teams simply refuse to play to this silly game of inflated fees, like ourselves, Arsenal (lol), 'Pool, Spurs, all the German teams bar Bayern, Juve, & then again all La Liga teams bar the top 2; so essentially anyone not named City, Bayern, Barca or Madrid; things will return to normality in European football. Those who'd be willing to pay more than us, only those 4 teams, can buy only so many players. Once they're full of players, any teams selling players wouldn't find any teams they're able to extort, since the rest of us would be rooted in reality. With a world class scout team & board members who see that big names aren't necessarily better than cheap, hidden gems, we'd always be able to compete at the top, with the rare splash on someone worth the sickening fee. (Just look at Atletico/Seville, Dortmund, Napoli.)

Summary: We should and perhaps must refuse to pay over the odds for players. Don't adjust to the demands of other teams. Only weaklings allow others to dictate the value of what they seek. 

[Cranky 0]

50 minutes ago, Leif said:

It doesn't have to be that way. If some key teams simply refuse to play to this silly game of inflated fees, like ourselves, Arsenal (lol), 'Pool, Spurs, all the German teams bar Bayern, Juve, & then again all La Liga teams bar the top 2; so essentially anyone not named City, Bayern, Barca or Madrid; things will return to normality in European football. Those who'd be willing to pay more than us, only those 4 teams, can buy only so many players. Once they're full of players, any teams selling players wouldn't find any teams they're able to extort, since the rest of us would be rooted in reality. With a world class scout team & board members who see that big names aren't necessarily better than cheap, hidden gems, we'd always be able to compete at the top, with the rare splash on someone worth the sickening fee. (Just look at Atletico/Seville, Dortmund, Napoli.)

Summary: We should and perhaps must refuse to pay over the odds for players. Don't adjust to the demands of other teams. Only weaklings allow others to dictate the value of what they seek. 

Juventus paid 80 mil liquid for Higuain. Hold that thought for a second..

[BlueLyon 9,359]

31 minutes ago, Cranky said:

Juventus paid 80 mil liquid for Higuain. Hold that thought for a second..

If everything was black and white, Leicester would demand 50m for Kante if they thought "well Higuain was 80m, Kante is surely worth half".

There are crazy deals in football with fees that players are never worth in first place, but reach it because of club owners or marketing like Pogba, Bale, Higuain,...but you also have reasonable, sometimes very very cheap deals like Kante to Chelsea, Ozil to Real etc.

Just because Higuain cost 80m, it doesnt mean Costa would cost 100m if he was to return to Atletico in summer.

There are gentelman deals based on actual worth of players and for the sake of players wishes.

Those who are paying 100m for Pogba, 70 for James are crazy.

The only two fees of giant proportions worth of it are Ronaldo to real and Zidane to Real.