James Rodríguez

[nono 791]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

He doesnt realy fit in system, he has poor attitude but yeah lets buy him because he will show few tricks every game.

Unless Conte knows exactly where James would play here, we should stay away.

I don't really like the idea of buying castoffs for club record fees, no matter how good they are. Yes Ozil has done well at Arsenal but they didn't pay 60m euros for him. I don't like rescuing Madrid from poor deals by buying castoffs at ridiculous fees. If we are buying we have all the leverage anyways. He can spend the whole year on their bench at that high salary of his, and next year his value's gonna be even lower. I'd much rather not buy at all than pay that much money for him. He is already 25 by the way. Not really old but I thought he was younger.

[Beigl 1,387]

Can you really blame him for having a poor attitude when he's treated like a squad player? He made a massive move to Madrid surely thinking he'd play a big part but as usual when the newest, shiny toy comes along he gets discarded.

I'm sure that if he gets a fresh start elsewhere where he can start week in and week out as a key player his attitude will be fantastic.

Still not a single reputable source has said we're really in for him so it's hard to get excited.

He would certainly help Hazard so he isn't the main catalyst of our attacks anymore and we as a team would become much more dangerous.

But I doubt he would fit Conte's system as he plans to play 3-5-2 in the long run and there is no way James could play in there as his workrate and positioning seems quite bad.

[LAM09 7,043]

 

 

Well if we sell Pedro I think we will try for James. Still not a single source is saying that we are after him expect a single TV in Brazil. 

I expect a potential deal to be done right at the end of the window if it's going to happen.

[The Skipper 20,609]

28 minutes ago, nono said:

I don't really like the idea of buying castoffs for club record fees, no matter how good they are. Yes Ozil has done well at Arsenal but they didn't pay 60m euros for him. I don't like rescuing Madrid from poor deals by buying castoffs at ridiculous fees. If we are buying we have all the leverage anyways. He can spend the whole year on their bench at that high salary of his, and next year his value's gonna be even lower. I'd much rather not buy at all than pay that much money for him. He is already 25 by the way. Not really old but I thought he was younger.

60m euros is about £52m. Only £10m more than Ozil who went in a much more stable market. Madrid's cast offs include players like Mesut, Di Maria, Robben, Makelele as mentioned before. I'd gladly take any of them (at the age they left) in my team. 

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6 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

60m euros is about £52m. Only £10m more than Ozil who went in a much more stable market. Madrid's cast offs include players like Mesut, Di Maria, Robben, Makelele as mentioned before. I'd gladly take any of them (at the age they left) in my team. 

reckon Ozil was far more established and played a much bigger role than James though. 

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Just now, Robguima said:

reckon Ozil was far more established and played a much bigger role than James though. 

That's certainly true. Even Ronaldo wept when Mesut left. Wasn't disputing otherwise! 

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 hour ago, Beigl said:

He would certainly help Hazard so he isn't the main catalyst of our attacks anymore and we as a team would become much more dangerous.

But I doubt he would fit Conte's system as he plans to play 3-5-2 in the long run and there is no way James could play in there as his workrate and positioning seems quite bad.

We habe 2 players already that can fit that bill in Moses and Square.

1 hour ago, iceboy said:

 

 

Well if we sell Pedro I think we will try for James. Still not a single source is saying that we are after him expect a single TV in Brazil. 

Really dont have a clue WTF Pedro is still doing here.

Did RM do a Rags and just buy James because they could and they didn't want anyone else to have him? Theres got to be something going on between Zidane and James because theres no other reason he wouldn't have played today otherwise.

Hes young and got skills and has been followed by hype (like Eden) So like other players in similar situations he more than likely also has a big ego that needs stroking. And it doesn't seem hes been made to feel wanted. Hes probably just aching to be made to feel important again and be shown love.

[Spike 12,049]

58 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

We habe 2 players already that can fit that bill in Moses and Square.

Really dont have a clue WTF Pedro is still doing here.

Did RM do a Rags and just buy James because they could and they didn't want anyone else to have him? Theres got to be something going on between Zidane and James because theres no other reason he wouldn't have played today otherwise.

Hes young and got skills and has been followed by hype (like Eden) So like other players in similar situations he more than likely also has a big ego that needs stroking. And it doesn't seem hes been made to feel wanted. Hes probably just aching to be made to feel important again and be shown love.

Nope, He is joining Juve.

 

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15 minutes ago, Spike said:

Nope, He is joining Juve.

 

Well I hope not but if its gonna happen then bollox to all this loan shit. Its not like the old bitch need another season to check him out is it?

And what favors have they done us?

Lets be like everyone else and play hardball. See just how much they want him and do some part ex for a defender.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

We habe 2 players already that can fit that bill in Moses and Square.

Really dont have a clue WTF Pedro is still doing here.

Did RM do a Rags and just buy James because they could and they didn't want anyone else to have him? Theres got to be something going on between Zidane and James because theres no other reason he wouldn't have played today otherwise.

Hes young and got skills and has been followed by hype (like Eden) So like other players in similar situations he more than likely also has a big ego that needs stroking. And it doesn't seem hes been made to feel wanted. Hes probably just aching to be made to feel important again and be shown love.

I'm sorry but no way in hell would Moses help ease the burden on Hazard, he's failed on 3 PL loans for a reason.

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6 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

I do and there is a reason why he or Isco dont play in first 11. 

Flicks and tricks get you to one point. Efficiency and intelligence is something else.

The only reason I would be happy with his buy is so that Eden has someone to play with. But speed of our midfield and defensive balance would get downgraded. 

They don't fit because they don't fit in the system. It doesn't necessarily mean they're not class players. As mentioned earlier, Ozil, Robben, Di Maria, Makelele, Alonso etc. were all brilliant players when they left Real Madrid.

The same goes for Barcelona's off cuts. We scored Fabregas and Arsenal scored Sanchez. Two great signings. We are not on Real Madrid or Barcelona's level, so we don't have their luxurious squad depth.

Last I heard James insisted that he wanted to fight for his position at Real Madrid. That doesn't really sound like a guy with a poor attitude. Poor attitude is Lukaku tearing up because he wasn't guaranteed a starting position with us.

If you had watched plenty of James before, you'd know he has a lot more strings to his bow than just "flicks and tricks". He's just below the tier of Hazard, Neymar, De Bruyne and Bale. If he had continuous game time and a manager like Conte, I would back him to reach their level.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Dazzy_Vance said:

They don't fit because they don't fit in the system. It doesn't necessarily mean they're not class players. As mentioned earlier, Ozil, Robben, Di Maria, Makelele, Alonso etc. were all brilliant players when they left Real Madrid.

The same goes for Barcelona's off cuts. We scored Fabregas and Arsenal scored Sanchez. Two great signings. We are not on Real Madrid or Barcelona's level, so we don't have their luxurious squad depth.

Last I heard James insisted that he wanted to fight for his position at Real Madrid. That doesn't really sound like a guy with a poor attitude. Poor attitude is Lukaku tearing up because he wasn't guaranteed a starting position with us.

If you had watched plenty of James before, you'd know he has a lot more strings to his bow than just "flicks and tricks". He's just below the tier of Hazard, Neymar, De Bruyne and Bale. If he had continuous game time and a manager like Conte, I would back him to reach their level.

Fabregas is far cry from perfect signing. His immobility and lack of effectivness in decisive games forced him out of Barca team. There is a reason why Barca decided to sell Cesc and buy Rakitic, despite the later doesnt have same quality. But he has proper mentality and performs his level of quality consistently. Cesc on other hand shows unbelievable skill in certain games, but then he is invisible in key ones. I see James similar right now. But he has age on his side.

Obviously James will say he wants to fight for the place but it looks its second year when he will spend lot of time on bench. I see him as dude who is example of galactico. He made his way to real madrid and thats his greatest achievement. Doesnt want to leave RM for chelsea, because that would be step down even if he could play every week. 

I saw him many times but last year he was realy poor in decisions and got benched fairly. 

Top players play at best clubs or they play for smaller clubs waiting to be discovered. Pedro, Alexis, Ozil, Fabregas kind of players wont win you the Champions league unless they have perfect squad. Either they are not mature yet or sth, they simply dont deliver in biggest games. 

We never had fancy names ala Messi, Kaka, Zidane pre Sheva, but Drogba, Lamps and rest had wonderful mentality and professionalism, and despite James having twice talent Lampard ever had, I would not swap him. We should look for such players who have the grit and desire to get us back on top. 

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22 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Fabregas is far cry from perfect signing. His immobility and lack of effectivness in decisive games forced him out of Barca team. There is a reason why Barca decided to sell Cesc and buy Rakitic, despite the later doesnt have same quality. But he has proper mentality and performs his level of quality consistently. Cesc on other hand shows unbelievable skill in certain games, but then he is invisible in key ones. I see James similar right now. But he has age on his side.

Obviously James will say he wants to fight for the place but it looks its second year when he will spend lot of time on bench. I see him as dude who is example of galactico. He made his way to real madrid and thats his greatest achievement. Doesnt want to leave RM for chelsea, because that would be step down even if he could play every week. 

I saw him many times but last year he was realy poor in decisions and got benched fairly. 

Top players play at best clubs or they play for smaller clubs waiting to be discovered. Pedro, Alexis, Ozil, Fabregas kind of players wont win you the Champions league unless they have perfect squad. Either they are not mature yet or sth, they simply dont deliver in biggest games. 

We never had fancy names ala Messi, Kaka, Zidane pre Sheva, but Drogba, Lamps and rest had wonderful mentality and professionalism, and despite James having twice talent Lampard ever had, I would not swap him. We should look for such players who have the grit and desire to get us back on top. 

Of course Fabregas isn't perfect. No player is perfect. Fabregas has his flaws but he was brilliant in our title-winning season. Cesc needs a lot of midfield support to play against top sides but he doesn't have that at Chelsea.

Apart from our defence, our RW is our biggest weakness. Willian would be a dream to play against. No one shows him respect. He doesn't score, he doesn't assist, he doesn't create, he slows down our play, he is predictable with his runs, he's just not up to it and we currently only have two avenues to goal - Costa and Hazard. James would ease the burden on these two significantly and would improve Hazard in the process (he wouldn't get double marked every game).

And that's your problem, you watched him last year. You should've watched him the four years before that where he was exceptional.

The fact is we're not even in the CL at the moment. It's hard enough as is to sign players of elite quality with CL, but without CL it's near impossible. That's why when a player like James becomes available we should pounce.

Don't disagree with the last paragraph. I would not swap James for Lamps, but at this point in time, I would buy James and think he would be a great addition to our XI.

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