Cesc Fàbregas

[The Chels 2,502]

did drogba vs utd not count?

It did. He was on 7 assists before the United game.

[The Chels 2,502]

Also most of Gerrard's assists were mainly all from set peices if not all of them.

True. Most of Cesc's assists have been from open play but he should be looking to get a lot more from set pieces since we have such a big aerial threat. Like all our other AMs though his delivery is generally poor/average.

[Stats 7,056]

True. Most of Cesc's assists have been from open play but he should be looking to get a lot more from set pieces since we have such a big aerial threat. Like all our other AMs though his delivery is generally poor/average.

His has been mixed tbh. Some open play and set peices.

-Assist for Matic against Sporting Lison from free-kick.

-Assist for Diego Costa against Swansea for the header.

-Assist for Ivanovic against Burnley from corner.

-Assist for Drogba against United from corner.

So tbh his general delivery so far this season has been quite good if you consider the returns. He has managed a few assists through open play and assists.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

His has been mixed tbh. Some open play and set peices.

-Assist for Matic against Sporting Lison from free-kick.

-Assist for Diego Costa against Swansea for the header.

-Assist for Ivanovic against Burnley from corner.

-Assist for Drogba against United from corner.

So tbh his general delivery so far this season has been quite good if you consider the returns. He has managed a few assists through open play and assists.

Yeah. 4 of his 11 assists for us were from set pieces. 4 set piece assists in 13 games is quite good. Much better than any of our AMs managed last season. Though most of his assists are from open play, as expected.

[The Chels 2,502]

His has been mixed tbh. Some open play and set peices.

-Assist for Matic against Sporting Lison from free-kick.

-Assist for Diego Costa against Swansea for the header.

-Assist for Ivanovic against Burnley from corner.

-Assist for Drogba against United from corner.

So tbh his general delivery so far this season has been quite good if you consider the returns. He has managed a few assists through open play and assists.

That's actually quite a good return considering he's not exactly a set-piece specialist (a la Kroos/Koke) but I think it's expected given the number of players we have capable of scoring from headers and the number of corners we usually get. His delivery isn't great imo but it's better than the shocking Willian/Oscar/Hazard corners.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

That's actually quite a good return considering he's not exactly a set-piece specialist (a la Kroos/Koke) but I think it's expected given the number of players we have capable of scoring from headers and the number of corners we usually get. His delivery isn't great imo but it's better than the shocking Willian/Oscar/Hazard corners.

Kroos actually has exactly the same amount of corner assists as Cesc this season: 3 in 13 games. Koke has 4 in 13 games. So Cesc is actually doing a very good job at assisting from corners, especially considering set pieces are not his strongest point--unlike Koke and Kroos, he's much better at assisting from open play.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Also most of Gerrard's assists were mainly all from set peices if not all of them.

I think it was something like 12 out of 14 from set-pieces. Chances created are a far bigger indicator of creativity than assists which depends on others scoring.

[Barbara 15,149]

True. Most of Cesc's assists have been from open play but he should be looking to get a lot more from set pieces since we have such a big aerial threat. Like all our other AMs though his delivery is generally poor/average.

not true at all.

Many of his corners and free kicks were good/dangerous. Some of them turned into assists. He had a bad game set piece wise against QPR, but he's been good imo.

[The Chels 2,502]

Kroos actually has exactly the same amount of corner assists as Cesc this season: 3 in 13 games. Koke has 4 in 13 games. So Cesc is actually doing a very good job at assisting from corners, especially considering set pieces are not his strongest point--unlike Koke and Kroos, he's much better at assisting from open play.

Of Atletico's last 15 goals before this weekend 10 came from set-pieces, so while Koke only has 4 direct assists he must have managed a lot of the 'assist before the assist' type from set pieces.

not true at all. Many of his corners and free kicks were good/dangerous. Some of them turned into assists. He had a bad game set piece wise against QPR, but he's been good imo.

He has had some dangerous ones but when you get the number of corners we do that's inevitable. Too often his corners are too close to the keeper though imo. There was a lot of attention on the corners against United because of their small team and his poor crosses meant we couldn't take advantage in the first half, although we did in the end to be fair to him. It's not a big deal because it's not his speciality and he assists lots from open play but it's just a bit annoying that none of our midfielders are particularly great at them.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Of Atletico's last 15 goals before this weekend 10 came from set-pieces, so while Koke only has 4 direct assists he must have managed a lot of the 'assist before the assist' type from set pieces.

He has had some dangerous ones but when you get the number of corners we do that's inevitable. Too often his corners are too close to the keeper though imo. There was a lot of attention on the corners against United because of their small team and his poor crosses meant we couldn't take advantage in the first half, although we did in the end to be fair to him. It's not a big deal because it's not his speciality and he assists lots from open play but it's just a bit annoying that none of our midfielders are particularly great at them.

His corner kicks were not that good in the last two games, but otherwise he's been generally good at them--much better than our AMs--and created many chances from corners that our players failed to score. He's doing a better job than most corner kick takers of the top PL teams. There are not many "set piece specialists" around.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

His corner kicks were not that good in the last two games, but otherwise he's been generally good at them--much better than our AMs--and created many chances from corners that our players failed to score. He's doing a better job than most corner kick takers of the top PL teams. There are not many "set piece specialists" around.

Completely agree

[TheOneChan95 225]

I hope this doesn't spark a Mata vs Cesc debate but how many assists did Mata get from Set pieces for us in a season? Maybe it's poor memory but I could have sworn that almost every Mata corner was dangerous

[Daniel1980 1,425]

I hope this doesn't spark a Mata vs Cesc debate but how many assists did Mata get from Set pieces for us in a season? Maybe it's poor memory but I could have sworn that almost every Mata corner was dangerous

Mata's assists from corner kicks in the PL:

4 assists in 2011-2012

3 assists in 2012-2013

Cesc already has 3 in 10 games.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

In terms of delivery Di Maria is another level, like 8/10 are amazing. Apart from that I think the most you can expect from a good set piece taker, cesc had given so far

[The Chels 2,502]

In terms of delivery Di Maria is another level, like 8/10 are amazing. Apart from that I think the most you can expect from a good set piece taker, cesc had given so far

Di Maria is a strange one. His delivery from free-kicks is amazing yet his corners are abysmal.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Di Maria's corners are very poor. Even Willian's corners are better. United fans constantly complain about it, saying someone else should take corner kicks: RVP or Mata.

[The Chels 2,502]

Even Willian's corners are better.

That's a bit harsh on Di Maria. Willian's corners are something else

[Stats 7,056]

I hope this doesn't spark a Mata vs Cesc debate but how many assists did Mata get from Set pieces for us in a season? Maybe it's poor memory but I could have sworn that almost every Mata corner was dangerous

Mata is definitely a set peice expert. Puts the right weight, spin and pace on the ball.