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Peace.
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I saw numerous comments raising the question as to how would Fabregas fit in a Mourinho's team if Juan Mata (and to a lesser extent de Bruyne) could not. It is to misunderstand what was the situation

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Already has more medals for Chelsea than Arsenal.

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50 goals was a figure of speech I did not mean literary. The La Liga has more hatricks per season than EPL due to the smaller teams being much weaker. By the way its not like Cristiano did not play in the EPL he played and his highest ever total was 31 if I am not mistaken a target he usually always beats at Madrid

Hum... In his five seasons at Madrid, Cristiano has respectively scored : 26, 40, 46, 34 and 31 goals. So, apart of two seasons, his goal-scoring stats are pretty much the same as his best year in England. Furthermore, it has to be taken into account that he was not really the same player after he went to Madrid. Indeed, ever since he has been granted the free-licence to concentrate on scoring goal (and to not track-back) ; a free licence that Ferguson did not grant him and that would not have. We thus can safely assume that, had he stayed in the Premier League and be granted such a liberty, he would have scored once or twice more than 40 goals in a season.

As for Messi, he is the greatest player of his generation, one of the greatest player of all time and there is an ongoing debate to know whether he is the best player of all time. So we cannot really use the fact he scores a lot in La Liga to conclude that you can score for fun in that league and that defenses are outrageously weak.

And anyway, as it has been already demonstrated, these two players are each years the best goal-scorers in the Champions League.

As for the hat-tricks... I have found stats for the Premier League, though I have found nothing for La Liga. Seeing the high numbers of hat-tricks scored by Messi and Ronaldo, it would not be surprising that la Liga has more hat-tricks scored. So, for the debat's sake, we will assume that it is a fact. Well, as in my last sentence I have said : Messi and Ronaldo score a lot of hat-tricks, and the presumably high number of hat-tricks is down to them two. It has been demonstrated above why they both score plenty of goals ; as a matter of fact, the high number of hat-tricks in Spain cannot be attribute to its so-called poor defenses, but rather it has to be attribute to the fact that there are two great goal-scorers playing in that league.

Moreover, I have demonstrated that fact in my previous post : there is the same number of goals scored each year in La Liga and in the Premier League. Perhaps there are 3 hat-tricks scored in England and 30 in Spain, but at the end of the day, hat-tricks or not, there is the same amount of goals scored ! So this is not a valid argument.

Finally, the vast majority of people who follow the Premier League tends to say that smaller team in Spain are much weaker, and implicitly, are way worst when it comes to defense. I disagree with that fact. I watch a lot of spanish games through Barcelona. There are a lot of small teams that give problems, regarding the defense. These teams make it hard for Barça to score ; and they do so without parking the bus ! Small teams in England use to park the bus with tall and powerful players ; which gives a feeling a defensive solidity. At the contrary, in Spain, they do not adopt such tactics and their defenders are not mountains of muscle like here. I attribute this distorted view (i.e. spanish teams are way worse defensively than british teams) to that fact. The fact that there are as many goals scored in the two leagues tends to prove me right.

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That part where he talked about wanting a manager to convince him of his importance to the cause seemed like a way to explain why Arsenal wasn't an option. Wenger didn't reckon he could've fit both Fabregas and Ozil into the side. Glad about two things :

1. "This was my only option"

2. "I want to win everything"

Warming up to him.

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If anyone is interested, this is from the latest club magazine...

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Opta's definition for 'Big Chances Created' is basically 'Clear Cut Chances Created'. Though they don't have the definition for the term, it's pretty much along these lines..

Big Chances


A situation where a player should reasonably be expected to score usually in a one-on-one scenario or from very close range.

- See more at: http://www.optasports.com/news-area/blog-optas-event-definitions.aspx#sthash.KMGwLrTH.dpuf
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"Cesc and myself have had our battles in the past but I wish him the best because I wish Chelsea all the best."

It's not that called off :lol:, but always a delight too see him continue to talk of his love for Chelsea

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"Cesc and myself have had our battles in the past but I wish him the best because I wish Chelsea all the best."

It's not that called off :lol:, but always a delight too see him continue to talk of his love for Chelsea

In other words "I still hate him, but as long as he's with Chelsea I wish THEM the best." Oooooh Frank we'll always love you more, no matter what :D:ph34r:

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