kdot 58 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Poor but he really improved toward the end of the game. That one ball he delivered was ridiculous. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Will just post this tweet from Choo Choo... didierforever, kellzfresh and Tautvix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Sell him, he won his medal now he dont give a shit TheIceMan, didierforever and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Sell him, he won his medal now he dont give a shit but who will "control the midfield" against 9 men then? :lol: TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Ironically he improved in the second half after Oscar went off.That's probably because he was tasked to sit back and play passes forward from deep. Ask him to get forward and play attacking passes, he will turn into a pussy, just like in the first half or his spineless defending for Newcastle's second goal. Oscar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 but who will "control the midfield" against 9 men then? :lol: RLC, Rami, Mikel, fuck it Blackman could do a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 if only. if only we had bought rakitic instead of him. i said it at that time and i will continue saying this.what actually baffles me is the fact that he is probably the most un-jose-like CM that could possibly exist in the world. shit in defence. shit attitude. no balls. compare it to some of the midfielders mourinho had. i mean why this guy? TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 RLC, Rami, Mikel, fuck it Blackman could do a job outrageous.cesc is the only one who could have played the way he did against 9 men. you know nothing, billy!!!! Billy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 if only. if only we had bought rakitic instead of him. i said it at that time and i will continue saying this.what actually baffles me is the fact that he is probably the most un-jose-like CM that could possibly exist in the world. shit is defence. shit attitude. no balls. compare it to some of the midfielders mourinho had. i mean why this guy?He's basically the CM version of Mata. Mourinho tossed him aside but has been persisting with Fabregas. Go figure.On the other hand, one should ask Mourinho - has he even utilized Fabregas correctly? He worked brilliantly in the pivot last season but as we can see, he's now a major defensive liability playing in that area. So why hasn't JM tried something different, like play the 4-3-3 for example? That way, we'll be less exposed defensively and it allows Fabregas to concentrate on attacking rather than having to focus on both attacking and defending. He will also have another player in midfield to help him and Matic. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Ironically he improved in the second half after Oscar went off.It was more Newcastle tbh, when they scored 2 they pretty much shut it down and parked the bus. Gave Cesc all the time in the world on the ball. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I am not of of his biggest fans - remember TPTB and I concerned about how weak he has historically been (even for arsenal).Obviously Fabregas is a good player with lots of technique and vision. However, in that CM position he demands a lot of protection, which he did enjoy last season.Ironically, now with his buddy Pedro, he's enjoying a lot less protection from the attacking players - along with Oscar's injuries and Hazard's terrible form - lack of fitness IMO.In this current situation, with Pedro, I also think the formation is wrong and did not quite understand our transfer window movement or lack thereof.No I don't think Mikel should be anywhere near the starting XI - please don't mention macabbi as he also played against everton - so that leaves us with Ramires and RLC. I love RLC but was concerned about reports he ends up matches a bit tired, which could be a problem at this level so I assume he isn't quite ready for a starter position. That leaves us with a single solution (or at least a way to improve things): Ramires.Any way I look at it, not good enough. So I find it much easier to criticise Jose about the transfer window posture than what he does now. And there might be other variables we don't know about - board... owner... stadium... etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 He's basically the CM version of Mata. Mourinho tossed him aside but has been persisting with Fabregas. Go figure.exactly. or even KDB. we could have kept either of them and turned oscar in a CM.i mean atleast mata can keep the ball when being pressed. how the hell do u play for barcelona and not learn how to shield the fucking ball? unbelievable. one of the most over-hyped players i have ever seen.whats worse is that, 3 months down the road, when people will be discussing this "phase" of ours, he will be our "only threat". people will watch the highlights. say look at the ball he played to pedro against arsenal or against newcastle. the fact that his overall performances and limitations makes us so poor will be forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Send a psychedelic tape of his 2014 form to PSG and Wolfsburg and wait for the 30m+ offer to arrive. TheIceMan and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I was critical about him last season when he was at least having good games against small teams and made good stats. Now he is beyond shit. Im fuming, the prick doesnt even care in the slightest. Some even wanted him as future captain... TheIceMan and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Some even wanted him as future captain... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I was critical about him last season when he was at least having good games against small teams and made good stats. Now he is beyond shit. Im fuming, the prick doesnt even care in the slightest.Some even wanted him as future captain...Nobody would be as least as qualified as him.I can't even look at highlights of todays match because seeing him not even trying on that corner makes me rage. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 He is a Anti footballer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 exactly. or even KDB. we could have kept either of them and turned oscar in a CM.i mean atleast mata can keep the ball when being pressed. how the hell do u play for barcelona and not learn how to shield the fucking ball? unbelievable. one of the most over-hyped players i have ever seen.whats worse is that, 3 months down the road, when people will be discussing this "phase" of ours, he will be our "only threat". people will watch the highlights. say look at the ball he played to pedro against arsenal or against newcastle. the fact that his overall performances and limitations makes us so poor will be forgotten.not really....Havin oscar-matic and either kdb/mata would be a terrible idea. We would get hammered in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 not really....Havin oscar-matic and either kdb/mata would be a terrible idea. We would get hammered in the middlemore than the current situation? i honestly dont think so.then there is the point of having better control of the game and the mid. specially with someone like mata down the center. and the fact that chances would be created in actual plays rather than by a quarter backish long pass once a game. i remember having a hazard-mata-oscar partnership ahead of 2 of mikel,rambo,lamps and we still looked miles better defensively and 1000 times better in attack than we currently do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,270 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm not negative TalkChelsea forum guy, but he's been miserable this year. I mean, not even a fraction of the player he was last year. Starting on reputation alone at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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