Leif 6,006 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Here is the only player we should replace him with. Nobody has played this position & role this well at 19 years old. If he still performed to this level in Europe at 20 or so years old he'd simply have to be considered the best allround playmaking prospect considering age. The vid starts with his goals, then assists, then how he defends the ball. Unionjack, kellzfresh, DYC. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Leif said: Here is the only player we should replace him with. Nobody has played this position & role this well at 19 years old. If he still performed to this level in Europe at 20 or so years old he'd simply have to be considered the best allround playmaking prospect considering age. The vid starts with his goals, then assists, then how he defends the ball. He's type of player I love to see play alongside Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Whether we find a way to play and keep Cescy or not hes proved that what he brings us creativity wise we need a player that can bring it. With another creative,ball player as CB and couple of other upgrades we would be in a good position to hit Europe running., . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Fabregas's favourite Premier League moment was the one he could never reach with Arsenal And looks forward to reaching again under Conte “The day we won it, I remember I just went on my knees. It was such a big relief. I remember I had competed a lot of years, sometimes we were close, sometimes not so much, but I really tried to give a lot everywhere I have been in the Premier League and to finally achieve it was one of the best moments in my career.” “You can win a World Cup or a Euros, which is maybe the best a player can win, but when you’ve been trying to fight for a trophy for so many years, when you came close sometimes, you gave so much and fought so much for it and in the end it happens, it was personally a big achievement.” http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2017/3/4/14815360/cesc-fabregas-chelsea-arsenal-premier-league-trophy-conte-future-winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 On 2/28/2017 at 11:07 AM, manpe said: It's impressive that his pass completion is so high despite being the lowest of the lot, because he tries so many long passes every game, far more than anybody else, yet still maintains pass completion over 80%. No wonder he didn't fit Barca with their tiki-taka bs, not in his DNA to slowball. That's in his favor yes, but fabregas and pogba play deeper than the others in the list. The others have to deal with more contested areas and tighter marking from the opposition. Don't think he was good enough to be a regular for Barca. We need better all rounders in the middle if we want to compete outside the pl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Chelsea transfer news: Fabregas offered €5.6m per week from Turkish league giants http://turkish-football.com/chelsea-transfer-news-galatasaray-prepare-e5-6m-per-week-offer-for-cesc-fabregas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Chelsea transfer news: Fabregas offered €5.6m per week from Turkish league giants http://turkish-football.com/chelsea-transfer-news-galatasaray-prepare-e5-6m-per-week-offer-for-cesc-fabregas/ BS. No sane person would go to Turkey under these circumstances. Podolski and other famous players are looking for clubs. Turkish clubs also have serious financial problems because of the weakening currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull. He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player. The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BlueLyon said: One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull. He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player. The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this. It's because most people ask themselves a simple question then give a hopelessly wrong answer. That question is, "How hard can it be to deliver an accurate cross into the box from a corner?" The answer most give to that question is, "Not very." Wrong. Badly wrong. The evidence for the correct answer is all over the place if only people would take time to notice. Every set of football fans, everywhere in the world, complain that their players are bad at corner kicks*. If everybody is bad at a particular skill, then the one thing you can say about that skill is that it can't be easy. it is clearly very difficult and therefore even the best players will not get it right most of the time. * A potential exaggeration on my part obviously since I have not read the comments of every set of fans in the world. I've just extrapolated from the fact that I have never come across any fans who do not complain about thier players' low success rate from corners. Tomo, DYC. and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 8 hours ago, BlueLyon said: One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull. He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player. The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this. Iniesta isn't good at crossing or delivering good set-pieces. In the Netherlands there's a football term called 'traptechniek'. It translates to kick(ing) technique in English, refering to the ability of kicking/striking the ball with finesse, power, swerve and dip. Quality corner deliveries are about power, swerve and dip. Players like Pirlo and Kroos are capable of striking the ball with those techniques in a very controlled fashion. Long passing is mostly about finesse. It's more of a stroke than an actual kick/strike. Those typical Fabregas passes from around 25-35m from goal is a subtle technique. Pirlo is a master of both. It's arguably what made his career. Kroos not so much, more of a cross passer. There's a bigger correlation between direct FKs and corners than long passes and corners. But they're still different techniques. Messi is a FK and long passing master but his set-piece delivery is a 6, 6.5 out of 10 at best. I relate because my traptechniek is my specialty as an amateur. Too big for corner delivery duty though. But like Greavsie said above, if most can't do it, it's obviously an extremely hard skill to master and a rare talent. The Skipper, BlueLyon, communicate and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 hours ago, BlueLyon said: One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull. He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player. The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this. I do understand where you're coming from. When you see some of the pinpoint passes he's made with opposition all round him yet hes got all the time in the world for crosses (not ONLY Cescy but others too) then you would expect he could take the gonads off a fly given time and space. And these lads practice these kicks for hours at a time. Look at that Eden practice corner when he scored from well behind the touchline. So its understandable how we can hammer our heads into a wall sometimes when the ball doesn't get past the closest guy to him at a corner kick. BlueLyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 11:29 AM, DYC. said: In the Netherlands there's a football term called 'traptechniek'. It translates to kick(ing) technique in English, refering to the ability of kicking/striking the ball with finesse, power, swerve and dip. Quality corner deliveries are about power, swerve and dip. Players like Pirlo and Kroos are capable of striking the ball with those techniques in a very controlled fashion. Long passing is mostly about finesse. It's more of a stroke than an actual kick/strike. Someone else who's got beautiful traptechniek is Xhaka at Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Someone else who's got beautiful traptechniek is Xhaka at Arsenal. Xhaka has that but has nothing else in his locker lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just now, Yeboii said: Xhaka has that but has nothing else in his locker lol. He's a good player. Hasn't settled in yet imo. I think he'll have a good season next year, and show everyone what he's really about. He's a very rare player, proper regista. In the right system he would thrive. Stats and Amblève. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballover 222 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Actually, after another so so attempt by Cesc to deliver a free kick yesterday, I remembered Frank Lampard. With all the traptechniek discussion above, I can't reminisce over this player, one of the best midfielders of his generation. Had it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3312566/frantic-mum-left-fearing-brain-damage-for-tot-after-he-was-whacked-in-the-head-with-football-from-a-family-kickabout-involving-chelseas-cesc-fabregas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, BlueLyon said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3312566/frantic-mum-left-fearing-brain-damage-for-tot-after-he-was-whacked-in-the-head-with-football-from-a-family-kickabout-involving-chelseas-cesc-fabregas/ That was front page headlines yesterday, the day after a terrorist attack in Germany on the Dortmund team bus.....After all it is the Sun. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: That was front page headlines yesterday, the day after a terrorist attack in Germany on the Dortmund team bus.....After all it is the Sun. If it wasn't a famous footballer- it would be a non story The kid is probably embarrassed that his Mum is such a money whore! Married to an Investment Wanker and now chasing a few quid from a footballer. That's equality for you right there! 😂😂😂 Amy head "injury" is monitoring for 48 hours - A&E would have told her that Not even any proof Fabregras kicked the ball - absolute shambolic reporting - sad times indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 57 seconds -From Cesc coming on to Hazard scoring............... just saying Last Sicarius, The Skipper, Blue Armour and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: 57 seconds -From Cesc coming on to Hazard scoring............... just saying He makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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