Paulinho

[lucio 5,418]

Not really, because Paulinho will neither add the defense protection a DM would nor the passing and creativity a DLP would. He is the type of player we dont currently use!

Our best pairing is a proper DM (Capoue, Mikel, Chalobah, etc) and a great DLP (Modric, Moutinho, Benat, Oscar, etc)...

bayern used swein and martinez to great effect and i wouldnt call either of them DLP. i would prefer a defensive midfielder like lars bender put with a powerful box to box like axel witsel. i dont like small weak midfielders.

[Rmpr 8,977]

bayern used swein and martinez to great effect and i wouldnt call either of them DLP. i would prefer a defensive midfielder like lars bender put with a powerful box to box like axel witsel. i dont like small weak midfielders.

Swein? Do you mean Schweinsteiger?

Alright, first of all, Javi Martinez is a DM, so that is already very different. Second of all, Schweinsteiger simply does everything, he is in another level and anyone you put besides him will basically thrive. You cant compare any team with Bayern right now!

If you want a fair comparisson, give me Khedira and Xabi Alonso. One is rather similar to Paulinho (even though Khedira defend absurdly better) and the other is almost the same as Moutinho. Even then, Mourinho decided to play Pepe in many Barcelona matches to give the pivot more protection and try to contain Messi. Also, if you watched Dortumund's game, you will see how vulnerable they both were.

Paulinho needs a DM with him because he is not one and so does Moutinho. They would never work together!

[lucio 5,418]

i will never understand why paulinho is picked for brazil ahead of fernando (porto) , fernandinho and luiz gustavo. he is good but all 3 are better.

[Rmpr 8,977]

i will never understand why paulinho is picked for brazil ahead of fernando (porto) , fernandinho and luiz gustavo. he is good but all 3 are better.

Maybe because two of the players you posted play in a different position and the other plays in Ukraine (a league no Brazilian watches)?

[lucio 5,418]

yeah they are defensive midfield. but i have seen ramires and paulinho play together which meant no CDM which was stupid. surely fernandinhos great champions league form should be enough to get him a place. he is brazils best midfielder. this is why they will fail at the world cup because they dont look to these players like fernandinho , willian and taison. fernando is a quality defensive mid and he dosent even have 1 cap. gustavo destroyed madrid last year and he has 3..... ridiculous

[Rmpr 8,977]

yeah they are defensive midfield. but i have seen ramires and paulinho play together which meant no CDM which was stupid. surely fernandinhos great champions league form should be enough to get him a place. he is brazils best midfielder. this is why they will fail at the world cup because they dont look to these players like fernandinho , willian and taison. fernando is a quality defensive mid and he dosent even have 1 cap. gustavo destroyed madrid last year and he has 3..... ridiculous

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Brazil will fail because we dont look at players like Fernandinho, Willian and Taison? FUCKING LUNATIC! :lol2:

Brazil's double pivot will almost certainly be Fernando (Gremio) and Hernanes (Lazio), an excellent combination of DM and CM. With Luiz Gustavo, Ramires or Paulinho as backups. Ramires and Paulinho only played against England, the very first Scolari match in charge.

Also, in a 4-2-3-1, with the attacking trio of Lucas-Oscar-Neymar and Hulk, Kaka, Ronaldinho or Bernard as options, there is no space for Willian who decided to fuck up with his career by going to Russia. Taison is just a joke of a player, he is no Brazil NT material.

Brazil will fail because it aint ready and their top players are still way too young and unexperienced, not because we are giving the Ukrainian Brazilians a chance. Only Thiago Silva, Julio Cesar and Fred are ready for this World Cup, the rest still needs to mature (hoping that in a year, players like David Luiz, Marcelo, Fernando, Lucas and Oscar can hugely improve)...

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

bayern used swein and martinez to great effect and i wouldnt call either of them DLP. i would prefer a defensive midfielder like lars bender put with a powerful box to box like axel witsel. i dont like small weak midfielders.

Yes, Schweinsteiger is exactly a DLP.

Swein? Do you mean Schweinsteiger?

Alright, first of all, Javi Martinez is a DM, so that is already very different. Second of all, Schweinsteiger simply does everything, he is in another level and anyone you put besides him will basically thrive. You cant compare any team with Bayern right now!

If you want a fair comparisson, give me Khedira and Xabi Alonso. One is rather similar to Paulinho (even though Khedira defend absurdly better) and the other is almost the same as Moutinho. Even then, Mourinho decided to play Pepe in many Barcelona matches to give the pivot more protection and try to contain Messi. Also, if you watched Dortumund's game, you will see how vulnerable they both were.

Paulinho needs a DM with him because he is not one and so does Moutinho. They would never work together!

Yup. Schweini is the best DLP in the world right now. But he has not exactly been Bayern's best player this season. Robbery and esp Müller have been the main reasons for their prolific offense whilst Dante has probably been the best Bundesliga signing ever.

[lucio 5,418]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Brazil will fail because we dont look at players like Fernandinho, Willian and Taison? FUCKING LUNATIC! :lol2:

Brazil's double pivot will almost certainly be Fernando (Gremio) and Hernanes (Lazio), an excellent combination of DM and CM. With Luiz Gustavo, Ramires or Paulinho as backups. Ramires and Paulinho only played against England, the very first Scolari match in charge.

Also, in a 4-2-3-1, with the attacking trio of Lucas-Oscar-Neymar and Hulk, Kaka, Ronaldinho or Bernard as options, there is no space for Willian who decided to fuck up with his career by going to Russia. Taison is just a joke of a player, he is no Brazil NT material.

Brazil will fail because it aint ready and their top players are still way too young and unexperienced, not because we are giving the Ukrainian Brazilians a chance. Only Thiago Silva, Julio Cesar and Fred are ready for this World Cup, the rest still needs to mature (hoping that in a year, players like David Luiz, Marcelo, Fernando, Lucas and Oscar can hugely improve)...

fernandinho is brazils best central midfielder its as simple as that. would belgium forget about witsel because he went to russia? the fernando - hernanes pivot did look good though.

[Rmpr 8,977]

fernandinho is brazils best central midfielder its as simple as that. would belgium forget about witsel because he went to russia? the fernando - hernanes pivot did look good though.

That is the difference between Brazil and all other nations. We have way too many good players, if you are not in the spotlight, you are easily forgotten. If Witsel comes to any country he will still be picked because there is no other contender at all.

Hernanes has been excleent in Serie A, whereas Fernandinho had one good UCL group stage and that is all. It doesnt matter if Fernandinho is better or not, nobody fucking cares because it is not him that will make the difference, Hernanes or Paulinho are very much capable of handling the job. You simply dont pick a player who has proven fuck all to be Brazil's first CM choice.

[Special Juan 28,187]

Fernandinho was brilliant against us when we faced Shakhtar, very intelligent player.

[lucio 5,418]

That is the difference between Brazil and all other nations. We have way too many good players, if you are not in the spotlight, you are easily forgotten. If Witsel comes to any country he will still be picked because there is no other contender at all.

Hernanes has been excleent in Serie A, whereas Fernandinho had one good UCL group stage and that is all. It doesnt matter if Fernandinho is better or not, nobody fucking cares because it is not him that will make the difference, Hernanes or Paulinho are very much capable of handling the job. You simply dont pick a player who has proven fuck all to be Brazil's first CM choice.

he has proved way more than paulinho. gustavo has too - he has been a key player in the best team in europe yet paulinho has 4 times more caps. fernandinho has had multiple quality champions league campaigns it is just stupid to ignore him

[Rmpr 8,977]

he has proved way more than paulinho. gustavo has too - he has been a key player in the best team in europe yet paulinho has 4 times more caps. fernandinho has had multiple quality champions league campaigns it is just stupid to ignore him

Paulinho won Brasileirao in 2011, Libertadores 2012 and CWC in 2012. What about Fernandinho? He won Ukrainian League 5 times without any competition and UEL in 09/10. I dont see how this can be considered bigger...

This argument of playing UCL is more than winning things in Brazil doesnt cut here. Thank God we are the ones choosing our own players and not Europeans!

Fernandinho is not better than Hernanes and Paulinho and he doesnt deserve that immense preference you want him to have. He doesnt play where the spotlight is at and that is a shame, but it is ridiculous to try to undermine the other two competent CMs who are getting their well deserved chance in Brazil NT.

[lucio 5,418]

Paulinho won Brasileirao in 2011, Libertadores 2012 and CWC in 2012. What about Fernandinho? He won Ukrainian League 5 times without any competition and UEL in 09/10. I dont see how this can be considered bigger...

This argument of playing UCL is more than winning things in Brazil doesnt cut here. Thank God we are the ones choosing our own players and not Europeans!

so you would pick some kid fernando from gremio instead of fernando from porto who is 5 years older much better and has won the europa league and 3 portugese titles and played against teams like man utd and barcelona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCzK_vZE5cg

he has no caps........

[Rmpr 8,977]

so you would pick some kid fernando from gremio instead of fernando from porto who is 5 years older much better and has won the europa league and 3 portugese titles and played against teams like man utd and barcelona

he has no caps........

Of course I would, just because you havent seen him play, it doesnt make him bad. No one will choose the Fernando from Porto because he is 5 years older and played in Europe if he is the worst player...

I am glad that people from Brazil staff doesnt have that European bias. Thank fuck for that!

[lucio 5,418]

Of course I would, just because you havent seen him play, it doesnt make him bad. No one will choose the Fernando from Porto because he is 5 years older and played in Europe if he is the worst player...

I am glad that people from Brazil staff doesnt have that European bias. Thank fuck for that!

yeah thats probably why scolari has 1 win in 5. i rate fernando martins but there is no way he is better than portos fernando who is even considered more important than moutinho for them. also i would expect sandro to play instead of him if he recovers from this injury.

[Rmpr 8,977]

yeah thats probably why scolari has 1 win in 5. i rate fernando martins but there is no way he is better than portos fernando who is even considered more important than moutinho for them. also i would expect sandro to play instead of him if he recovers from this injury.

Sandro played with Mano until he got injured, I dont know if he will have time to recover for Confederations Cup and if Fernando continues to do well, I fear his chance will have passed...

[Jcar92 66]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f86d9NZCUU

[jmarlow 458]

Forget Fernandinho, Paulinho has so much potential to be one of the best in Europe and he is available for 20 Million Euros!!! I cant believe we haven't tried to sign him yet and i hope we do he would be a great signing!

[Beepu 1,714]

Forget Fernandinho, Paulinho has so much potential to be one of the best in Europe and he is available for 20 Million Euros!!! I cant believe we haven't tried to sign him yet and i hope we do he would be a great signing!

There were rumours that we were interested in january.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

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Paulinho's and Bernard's agent is in London, Paulinho confirms. Tottenham or Chelsea? Both recently linked -W.