Are we witnessing the permanent downfall of Manchester United as THE top club?

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

Betting has been suspended on Moyes leaving! Please don't go Moyes, we want you to stay!

[Shane 2,275]

I would be stunned if they sacked him. Stunned.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Rumors saying he could be gone.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

NO. He has to stay

[Toli 977]

It would make no sense for them to sack him now at all. they are literally out of the CL and even if they can come back and get in to the QF, they will be battered by every team there. the league is lost too, and getting in to the CL is nearly impossible. I think he will stay until next season for sure now.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

It would make no sense for them to sack him now at all. they are literally out of the CL and even if they can come back and get in to the QF, they will be battered by every team there. the league is lost too, and getting in to the CL is nearly impossible. I think he will stay until next season for sure now.

Let me remind you when Roberto Di Matteo was hired...We were in the last 16 of the Champions League and had just lost 3-1 to Napoli.............

[DavidEU 2,023]

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/moyes-has-to-go.385470/

This is particularly entertaining.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Even in our 'bad moment' under Ancelotti (second season) and AVB, it never got this bad for us.....

We under AVB were as bad as Manure today, the difference is we sacked him and RDM ended up finishing the season the biggest possible fashion...

[Jase 43,479]

We under AVB were as bad as Manure today, the difference is we sacked him and RDM ended up finishing the season the biggest possible fashion...

Maybe but we did have some decent moments under AVB and at least, some of the players were still performing then and had better quality, if anything, to make a difference as opposed to United. Their stagnation is arguably even worse than ours in 2011/12 or 2010/11 for that matter.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

RT: Moyes out. Piers In

[Rmpr 8,977]

Maybe but we did have some decent moments under AVB and at least, some of the players were still performing then and had better quality, if anything, to make a difference as opposed to United. Their stagnation is arguably even worse than ours in 2011/12 or 2010/11 for that matter.

I dont agree with that...

Manchester United still has players that can make a difference and they did had a few good games. Rooney, RVP, Mata and Januzaj can win some matches if they perfrom.

We under AVB were REALLY bad, apart from Mata and Cech no one was doing anything. Including top blokes like Cole, Terry, Lampard and Drogba werent playing half as well as when RDM took charge.

Now, I grant you that our sacking policy did proved right at that time (as it did with Scolari) and we turned things around beautifully. Which is something I doubt United can do!

[The only place to be 11,313]

I'm absolutely loving the hypocrisy of United supporters right now. For years they've given us shit about sacking managers and how they were a different breed....how they stood by Fergie for 5 years (which isn't quite true) and how they're loyal.

Now look at this poll on the cafe.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/moyes-has-to-go.385470/

83% want him out and a fair number of the votes to keep him are from supporters of rival clubs.

Despite that I think they will stick with him either out of some misguided sense of being 'better' than us or simply through ineptitude. To me it goes some way to vindicating Roman's firing policy over the last few years. I actually think Woodward and the Glazers might allow Moyes to spend that rather large transfer kitty as well, which based on his first couple of acquisitions will be less than astute.

[Jase 43,479]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/26/manchester-uniteds-failure-shows-english-football-needs-liverpool-back-in-the-champions-league-4320563/

:lol: Delusional article from the Scousers.

[Jase 43,479]

I dont agree with that...

Manchester United still has players that can make a difference and they did had a few good games. Rooney, RVP, Mata and Januzaj can win some matches if they perfrom.

We under AVB were REALLY bad, apart from Mata and Cech no one was doing anything. Including top blokes like Cole, Terry, Lampard and Drogba werent playing half as well as when RDM took charge.

Now, I grant you that our sacking policy did proved right at that time (as it did with Scolari) and we turned things around beautifully. Which is something I doubt United can do!

Let's not forget that Lampard and Drogba also won us matches when they decided to turn up...

[Rmpr 8,977]

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/moyes-has-to-go.385470/page-25#post-15167476

[Rmpr 8,977]

Let's not forget that Lampard and Drogba also won us matches when they decided to turn up...

I agree, I am not saying we were 100% shit (hell, we were still 6th place), but Rooney and Januzaj also won a couple of matches for United (I am not comparing them to Lamps and Didier, please).

Anyway, I just think that just Manure playing worse than a Championship side under David Moyes doesnt mean it´s their permanent downfall or whatever. Things can change A LOT from a season to another...

[Jase 43,479]

David Moyes' position as Manchester United manager remains secure

[AndersonBLUE 819]

I'm loving it at the moment but it's looking like Chelsea 2012: down 2 goals in the first leg but went on to win it. Don't be surprised if they make it through.

[didierforever 7,349]

We were no way as dire as united. Specially considetong the fact that we had a dreadul 2010-11 while the samr squad which was hardly any better than the previous season.

Here we havr a united team that WALKED over in the PL. Literally walked over. How low they have fallen is embarassing. Absolutely embarassing.

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

Yeah they can definitely turn it round at the Theatre of shit.

Its amazing how stubborn they are and are determined not to be chelsea and change managers, but stick with the wide eyed rabbit in the headlights indecisive one, that is Moyes. Its probably down to the tight fisted Glazers not wanting to pay any compensation as well.

Long may it continue.