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It sounds like you're trying to be sarcastic, but it's not the worst idea in the world to stick him in. He's a good player, he's match-fit and I'm not sure he'd take much time to work out what he should be doing.

Would including him make us a better team?

It's not that simple. We have a system that requires him to play and move in a certain manner, especially when it comes to our defensive system. He'll need to train at least a couple of times with the team before he can start a major match like this one.

Plus, ignoring all that, making his debut for the club by starting him in such a big match seems to me like a high-risk low-gain gamble.

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Remember how we got robbed last season with the two red cards and the offside goal? Time for payback! If we win this it'll be an immense blow to their morale and even getting back in top 4 would seem unlikely for them at that point.

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It's not that simple. We have a system that requires him to play and move in a certain manner, especially when it comes to our defensive system. He'll need to train at least a couple of times with the team before he can start a major match like this one.

Plus, ignoring all that, making his debut for the club by starting him in such a big match seems to me like a high-risk low-gain gamble.

I knew that type of thought might come up because it seems the obvious thing to say. I think the transition from the role he's been playing at Benfica to the role he'd be asked to play for us is relatively painless. Someone like Hazard had to deal with so many different things being asked of him, especially defensively that it would be very tough for him to be chucked straight in.

I actually don't see there being very much difference between what he'd be asked to do on a tactical level. The two things we're going to need to do against United are press them when they're in possession (Carrick especially) and look to break quickly when they're in transition and that requires accurate passing. To me, those are two things he does far better than Mikel who is in all likelihood his competition for that spot.

Now I don't know if there's any specific aspects of our system that you think he'd have trouble picking up, but in that position I think his natural game and the game he's been asked to play for Benfica are actually a very close match for our's.

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I knew that type of thought might come up because it seems the obvious thing to say. I think the transition from the role he's been playing at Benfica to the role he'd be asked to play for us is relatively painless. Someone like Hazard had to deal with so many different things being asked of him, especially defensively that it would be very tough for him to be chucked straight in.

I actually don't see there being very much difference between what he'd be asked to do on a tactical level. The two things we're going to need to do against United are press them when they're in possession (Carrick especially) and look to break quickly when they're in transition and that requires accurate passing. To me, those are two things he does far better than Mikel who is in all likelihood his competition for that spot.

Now I don't know if there's any specific aspects of our system that you think he'd have trouble picking up, but in that position I think his natural game and the game he's been asked to play for Benfica are actually a very close match for our's.

Maybe, but I'm still not too convinced, tbh. The aspects that I think he'll need to learn before he can start for us, especially in such a big match, mainly have to do with our pressing system. I think he needs to learn where is he supposed to press in our system, with whom of his teammates is he supposed to press (because that is the most important thing in pressing: the coordination between the players), where is he supposed to force the opposition players: centrally or to the wings?...etc.

If we were going to give them the ball and play on the counter then I'd probably agree with you. On any account, we still don't know if he's even going to sign before the match.

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If you guys want to laugh harder than you have in a while, read all of the posts from Kyros99 on this page.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/our-squad-vs-chelseas-current-squad.382266/page-3

You must be logged-in to do that. - I don't really fancy making an account :lol:

Copy it over :)

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You must be logged-in to do that. - I don't really fancy making an account :lol:

Copy it over :)

Here's a sample of things he's said-

"Their goalkeeper is a pale shadow of the player he was. He has been suspect since his injury. He is no longer one of the world's elite keepers, and is not even in the Prem's top 5 keepers.

Ashley Cole and John Terry are slower than snails.

And Luiz... LOL don't even get me started. Absolute defensive liability."

His take on Hazard----

"If he were to join us he'd be rotated with Januzaj at best.

He is not miles better than Adnan, and Adnan has more potential and room to grow.

Hazard is doing for Chelsea what Nani did for us in his first season. I don't know what all the hype is about."

And my personal favorite: "Don't get me wrong I think hazard is a good player, just not one of the best, and definitely not UTD quality"

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Here's a sample of things he's said-

"Their goalkeeper is a pale shadow of the player he was. He has been suspect since his injury. He is no longer one of the world's elite keepers, and is not even in the Prem's top 5 keepers.

Ashley Cole and John Terry are slower than snails.

And Luiz... LOL don't even get me started. Absolute defensive liability."

His take on Hazard----

"If he were to join us he'd be rotated with Januzaj at best.

He is not miles better than Adnan, and Adnan has more potential and room to grow.

Hazard is doing for Chelsea what Nani did for us in his first season. I don't know what all the hype is about."

And my personal favorite: "Don't get me wrong I think hazard is a good player, just not one of the best, and definitely not UTD quality"

:fainthv9:

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