Korea 734 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Where does that leave us with Kalas, Nathanial and Ake? Also, does this mean someone gets sold out of the Ivan/Luiz/Cahill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 This reminds me of the Tal Ben Haim signing. Mou tends to fuck up those low-profile signings. Pizarro, Ben-Haim, Sidwell, Boularouz, Sahin the list is veeery long. I'm quite sure Otamendi -even though not that low profile because of the pricetag, but still would only be our 2nd CB backup- would fall into that category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Mateus 46 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 While Mangala is a physical beast, Otamendi is the brain behind the pair...I rate him quite well. Could be taller, but is great in every defending aspect. Good technique also...I think Garay is in a different level, so does the Argentina coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 While Mangala is a physical beast, Otamendi is the brain behind the pair...I rate him quite well. Could be taller, but is great in every defending aspect. Good technique also...I think Garay is in a different level, so does the Argentina coach.Do you think he would be an improvement on anyone of our CB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Now, I read Otamendi likes to play a high line, so he can appear to be playing in defensive midfield, breaking up play & starting attacks. That´s common weakness of many defenders in PL, see Luiz & that might not sit well with Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Mateus 46 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Do you think he would be an improvement on anyone of our CB's?Don't think so... Hard to imagine him fitting in the Premier, I think he would struggle in a more "physical-driven" league.I imagine him in top Spanish / Italian sides.On the other hand... Mangala would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Don't think so... Hard to imagine him fitting in the Premier, I think he would struggle in a more "physical-driven" league.I imagine him in top Spanish / Italian sides.On the other hand... Mangala would be perfect.Perhaps but look at Carvalho when he arrived. Not much on him but he was quick and technically good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I thought this Otamendi fella was decent. But I've only seen Porto play a few times, so my viewing sample size isn't exactly fantastic. Maybe the money would be better spent on an average English/homegrown CB? And god knows, average and English go together like lime and Corona these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I thought this Otamendi fella was decent. But I've only seen Porto play a few times, so my viewing sample size isn't exactly fantastic. Maybe the money would be better spent on an average English/homegrown CB? And god knows, average and English go together like lime and Corona these days.already have an average at best cb in cahill. dont want the club swarming with players like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 A cheaper alternative to Varane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Solid player, but they just got him, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 A cheaper alternative to Varane. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Valencia are rumoured to want €40m plus for him. Decent CB, but not worth them figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Agent came out and said he wants to leave today, also has a 50m euros as a release clause. Imo he has been the best BBVA CB this season and he is being heavily linked with MU, maybe we should at least compete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Valencia president: "It's €50M or nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Valencia president: "It's €50M or nothing."In other words, world transfer record for the defender. Currently it's about £35m. I don't think we will sign him, though for that money Man Utd will have an excellent defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Valencia president: "It's €50M or nothing."Not even the typical he's not going anywhere talk. I'm sure they would sell for less. They just say this to up his price, same with Benatia last season and countless other examples. This is his chance to join the elite and Valencia will probably be forced to let him leave. £25-30 mil is too much money to refuse. Buying a replacement wouldn't be too hard with the prospect of CL football.He's been brilliant this season, I love his style of defending. Old school Argie hard man. Set-piece threat and more than decent on the ball as well. I'd love him here. I have no idea whether Mourinho will want a new defender. I personally think the team needs a new CB, especially a proactive and more mobile one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Not even the typical he's not going anywhere talk. I'm sure they would sell for less. They just say this to up his price, same with Benatia last season and countless other examples. This is his chance to join the elite and Valencia will probably be forced to let him leave. £25-30 mil is too much money to refuse. Buying a replacement wouldn't be too hard with the prospect of CL football.He's been brilliant this season, I love his style of defending. Old school Argie hard man. Set-piece threat and more than decent on the ball as well. I'd love him here. I have no idea whether Mourinho will want a new defender. I personally think the team needs a new CB, especially a proactive and more mobile one.50m Euros is 35.5m Pounds, so its not really a big difference from the numbers you're suggesting he'll be sold (30m). If United wants him they'll pay 35m pounds.Benatia? he's from Roma and unlike Otamendi he didnt have a release clause, while Valencia also in a much better position financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 50m Euros is 35.5m Pounds, so its not really a big difference from the numbers you're suggesting he'll be sold (30m). If United wants him they'll pay 35m pounds.Benatia? he's from Roma and unlike Otamendi he didnt have a release clause, while Valencia also in a much better position financially.I don't think he'll leave for more than £30 mil. +/- €10-15 mil is a lot of money, transfers have failed for less. Edit: To clarify, I'm thinking €35-40 mil.Roma has money. Valencia have a rich owner but they still have a lot debts. And clubs always say suitors have to pay the highest price. What else are they supposed to say? I'd even say clubs usually don't get the fees they originally asked, that's just business. Real, and PSG and Barca to some extent, are the only clubs that regularly pay full asking price.But we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Few years ago Rami was recognized as one of best defenders in laliga while playing for Valencia. Turned absolute shit after two good seasons...This year Otamendi and Mustafa have both been fantastic but lets wait and see how they do next year.Otamendi was superb this year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Today Spain press says that Real Madrid is decided to give Varane a special place, make him a very important player. In this case we should forget him and focus on this guy. Try to get a deal for less of the 50M that they want. For me, after Varane, is the Better option, and now, is the first. Absolutely TOP on his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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