Willian

[Clockwork 1,794]

The fact he was our best player when we were hovering around regulation zone says a lot about his quality. That is his level. 

Too many deadwoods on this squad smh.

[Stats 7,056]

5 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

The fact he was our best player when we were hovering around regulation zone says a lot about his quality. That is his level. 

Too many deadwoods on this squad smh.

That is a ridiculous argument imo. I don't understand people who say this. Does that mean the other players around him who were poor are that level as well?

Villa were hovering around relegation last season but Benteke was clearly a cut above anyone in that squad but the argument should be that because they were near relegation zone, he is that type of level player. Ridiculous! The easy argument will be that he is struggling now but let's face it you put him right system he is a quality striker and one who most people were saying was better than Lukaku before the season started.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So Willian will play Copa and Olympics? 

We've seen the cost of poor pre-season already. Wonder how Conte will work Willian's schedule in now, could see the Brazilian's playing time limited if someone takes his spot for their own.

[Clockwork 1,794]

10 minutes ago, Stats said:

That is a ridiculous argument imo. I don't understand people who say this. Does that mean the other players around him who were poor are that level as well?

Villa were hovering around relegation last season but Benteke was clearly a cut above anyone in that squad but the argument should be that because they were near relegation zone, he is that type of level player. Ridiculous! The easy argument will be that he is struggling now but let's face it you put him right system he is a quality striker and one who most people were saying was better than Lukaku before the season started.

Three years of watching Willian, he has always shined when we were playing our worst football during the season. Whenever we have played our best looking and convincing football he was found as one of our weak link. That tells me he is not part of the solution. With Hazard, Cesc, and Costa for example I know how good they can be when we looked like a Champions side.

Bottom line is I don't see him as a component to a successful side. Looks great on a side that scraping by. 

I am hoping for much change as possible for next season, and I really pity Conte what he has to work with. If you are very fond of Willian's quality, you are in luck because he is likely a lesser of evils in this squad. 

[Captain Ahmed 528]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

I'm confused, I thought the Copa America was once every four years, what's changed?

The centenary of this competition

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Another standard Willian performance. Player of the season!

[Stats 7,056]

20 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

Another standard Willian performance. Player of the season!

Yeah, because your boy Oscar has really been nothing short of great right?

We all know what Oscar's standard performance is right? Ballon d'or candidate soon according to you

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

27 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

Another standard Willian performance. Player of the season!

I agree, he doesn't deserve to be playing near the goat that is Oscar. 

Willian is 5 times the player Oscar will ever be. The latter would struggle to start in a Stoke City side while the former would have no trouble getting into the squad of pretty much any team in the world. 

Your dislike for Willian has no other cause but the fact that he continuously proves to be better than your favorite, Oscar.

[Captain Ahmed 528]

13 hours ago, Stats said:

Yeah, because your boy Oscar has really been nothing short of great right?

We all know what Oscar's standard performance is right? Ballon d'or candidate soon according to you

Di Caprio received his OSCAR after several years.So why not Oscar be soon a Ballon d'or candidate.Yeah,hum still waiting

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

20 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

Another standard Willian performance. Player of the season!

 

Another standard Oscar performance. Oh wait! He isn't good enough to wear the Chelsea shirt! 

Oscar the Boy Wonder FTW! 

[LAM09 6,750]

Another standard Willian performance. Player of the season!

He's been a class above the rest of squad. That doesn't change the fact that he isn't first team quality IMO. August to Dec was a freak period.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Lmao you know you're utter shit when you're only saving grace is being better than a player horrendously out of form. What a joke of a player.

Funny thing is as horrendous as Oscar has been this year he'll go on to have a better career than Willian. This is as good as it gets for Willian though, best player (even though he's been woeful since Mourinho's sacking and not even a Top 5 performer ever since) in a Chelsea side having their worst season in 20 years.

Maybe I was wrong about Oscar but at least I'm consistent. I've never been high on Willian from the start despite the ridiculous & borderline insane fawning over him because he runs fast & used to track back. I mean at least I didn't proclaim a marginal player like Willian was better than Hazard, Fabregas etc because he scored a couple of fluke free-kicks.

[Stats 7,056]

30 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

Lmao you know you're utter shit when you're only saving grace is being better than a player horrendously out of form. What a joke of a player.

Funny thing is as horrendous as Oscar has been this year he'll go on to have a better career than Willian. This is as good as it gets for Willian though, best player (even though he's been woeful since Mourinho's sacking and not even a Top 5 performer ever since) in a Chelsea side having their worst season in 20 years.

Maybe I was wrong about Oscar but at least I'm consistent. I've never been high on Willian from the start despite the ridiculous & borderline insane fawning over him because he runs fast & used to track back. I mean at least I didn't proclaim a marginal player like Willian was better than Hazard, Fabregas etc because he scored a couple of fluke free-kicks.

"What a joke of a player?" Fuck off seriously. You ridiculous hater. Chelsea fan or not, your hatred and jealousy of Willian is clear. Even the Brazil manager has dropped your boyfriend Oscar and somehow keeps Willian in the team. Only idiots like you want to call him a "joke of a player".

But it is funny how you constantly want to bump the Willian thread with sarcastic comments and call him out when he has a bad patch but when he was our best player, it is funny how you went into hiding mode  A clear indication of a man(boy) full of guilt and not willing to admit his wrongdoings. And let's be honest Oscar has been our of form for a long while.

I stated it before this season that Oscar will look good when his other team mates are performing but when they are bad he is bad and has no standout qualities to help him out and this season have exposed him hugely. Dropped from both his club and national team. Willian has always been better than Oscar. Better crosser, passer, dribbler, stronger and pretty much better at everything. Hard for you to admit.

Don't cry to hard when he is our POTY. Totally pathetic you are when it comes to your hatred of Willian.

[Special Juan 27,429]

4 hours ago, Stats said:

"What a joke of a player?" Fuck off seriously. You ridiculous hater. Chelsea fan or not, your hatred and jealousy of Willian is clear. Even the Brazil manager has dropped your boyfriend Oscar and somehow keeps Willian in the team. Only idiots like you want to call him a "joke of a player".

But it is funny how you constantly want to bump the Willian thread with sarcastic comments and call him out when he has a bad patch but when he was our best player, it is funny how you went into hiding mode  A clear indication of a man(boy) full of guilt and not willing to admit his wrongdoings. And let's be honest Oscar has been our of form for a long while.

I stated it before this season that Oscar will look good when his other team mates are performing but when they are bad he is bad and has no standout qualities to help him out and this season have exposed him hugely. Dropped from both his club and national team. Willian has always been better than Oscar. Better crosser, passer, dribbler, stronger and pretty much better at everything. Hard for you to admit.

Don't cry to hard when he is our POTY. Totally pathetic you are when it comes to your hatred of Willian.

Stop telling people to fuck off and stop calling people idiots. Get your points across without insulting people, or you you can have a break from the forum....up to you!!

[Stats 7,056]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Stop telling people to fuck off and stop calling people idiots. Get your points across without insulting people, or you you can have a break from the forum....up to you!!

Tell me when I have consecutively told people to fuck off? Because I have not. Don't state things which are not true. I rarely swear at anyone.

[Special Juan 27,429]

5 hours ago, Stats said:

"What a joke of a player?" Fuck off seriously. You ridiculous hater. Chelsea fan or not, your hatred and jealousy of Willian is clear. Even the Brazil manager has dropped your boyfriend Oscar and somehow keeps Willian in the team. Only idiots like you want to call him a "joke of a player".

But it is funny how you constantly want to bump the Willian thread with sarcastic comments and call him out when he has a bad patch but when he was our best player, it is funny how you went into hiding mode  A clear indication of a man(boy) full of guilt and not willing to admit his wrongdoings. And let's be honest Oscar has been our of form for a long while.

I stated it before this season that Oscar will look good when his other team mates are performing but when they are bad he is bad and has no standout qualities to help him out and this season have exposed him hugely. Dropped from both his club and national team. Willian has always been better than Oscar. Better crosser, passer, dribbler, stronger and pretty much better at everything. Hard for you to admit.

Don't cry to hard when he is our POTY. Totally pathetic you are when it comes to your hatred of Willian.

 

3 minutes ago, Stats said:

Tell me when I have consecutively told people to fuck off? Because I have not. Don't state things which are not true. I rarely swear at anyone.

And there you have it.

If I was you I wouldn't bother saying anymore.

[Superblue 6,370]

Willian has been comfortably player of the season this year, simply based on his performances in the first half of the season when matches meant something.

Whether he can push on from this year remains to be seen. When Hazard is on his game, Willian can't touch that impact but it doesn't mean that he isn't first team quality or good enough. From what I remember he was an important cog in the all round shape and structure of the team that pissed the league last season so I think to say he isn't good enough for Chelsea is very harsh. He might not have the natural talent of Hazard and Oscar and like, but he has a far better mental toughness and fight about him and you need the right blend of both in your squad.

There are far more problematic areas to sort out in our squad than Willian's position.

With regards to Copa America and Olympics it is what it is unfortunately. Pisses me off that Neymar got picked for only one and that is what they should have done with any of the players but oh well. Hopefully this means giving someone else (maybe Cuadrado) a run of games at the start of the season to get up and running and when Willian comes back it'll be a nice problem to have!

[JaKstone 307]

9 hours ago, Stats said:

"What a joke of a player?" Fuck off seriously. You ridiculous hater. Chelsea fan or not, your hatred and jealousy of Willian is clear. Even the Brazil manager has dropped your boyfriend Oscar and somehow keeps Willian in the team. Only idiots like you want to call him a "joke of a player".

But it is funny how you constantly want to bump the Willian thread with sarcastic comments and call him out when he has a bad patch but when he was our best player, it is funny how you went into hiding mode  A clear indication of a man(boy) full of guilt and not willing to admit his wrongdoings. And let's be honest Oscar has been our of form for a long while.

I stated it before this season that Oscar will look good when his other team mates are performing but when they are bad he is bad and has no standout qualities to help him out and this season have exposed him hugely. Dropped from both his club and national team. Willian has always been better than Oscar. Better crosser, passer, dribbler, stronger and pretty much better at everything. Hard for you to admit.

Don't cry to hard when he is our POTY. Totally pathetic you are when it comes to your hatred of Willian.

You aren't much better than him though. As he is a Oscar fanboy you are fanboy of Willian. Beside that It's obvious it triggers you since you compare Oscar who has been utterly shit and one of our worst performers to Willian. Even when Oscar was dropping deep, pressing, doing the defensive work and playing very good  in the first half of the last season his haters only seem to remember his worst, yet Willian has more or less done the same except hes has been more consistent. If someone like him is considered POTY or 1st team player it frankly means we are in deep shit.

Also I blame Mourinho for destroying Oscar's career, he really destroyed the player who once had talent and skill and transformed him in a pub player. Nevertheless Willian was just more or less about the same as Oscar at 24 years old. Also you talk a lot of fucking bullshit about crosser, passer, etc you are comparing him to one of our worst performers this year, hilarious stuff! Compare him to Hazard who played awful this year, Mahrez or any other decent winger and  you will see he is bang average.