Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Would like to see him work on his final ball and consistency in finishing... Apart from that he has shown he has the tools to be a very important member of the team.Isn't that what we critisized Moses for at the end of last season? Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Isn't that what we critisized Moses for at the end of last season?Maybe some did but Willian is far more talented than Moses. The Chels and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Maybe some did but Willian is far more talented than Moses.In which aspects exactly "far more"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted May 8, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 8, 2014 In which aspects exactly "far more"?First touch, passing, shooting, decision making and intelligence (if that counts as an aspect of talent) Tomo, The Chels, Beigl and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogzola 283 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 When I watch him play Stoned then I really see what this guy is all about, his dribbling is amazing and his work rate is awesome. He seems to be lost once he gets past the player because the runs in front of him aren't there. I can only see him getting better and better. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 First touch, passing, shooting, decision making and intelligence (if that counts as an aspect of talent)The wording was "far". Willian doesn't excel in any of these aspects far better than Moses, especially his decision making and intelligence are as bad/good as Moses's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The wording was "far". Willian doesn't excel in any of these aspects far better than Moses, especially his decision making and intelligence are as bad/good as Moses's.lolsorry, but is there anything that Moses isn't far worse than Willian? Maybe they have about the same pace - Will may have more even - but everything else, yes, he's far better than Moses, not because Willian is that great, but simply because Moses is that bad. Henrique, The Chels and Madmax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Willian is by far our fastest in instigating a counter from defence ,,,only Ramires is even close in that respect . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,754 Posted May 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 9, 2014 Using his goal/assist record for me is far to easy a way to look at thing's and overlooks what he actually brings to the table.Now im not saying he will reach that level but Bergkamp is imo the most naturally gifted player in PL history, yet look at his stats and you will see a striker who during his time in England netted once every 3 and a half games. The balance Willian offers is amazing, it seems a cool trait these days to mock wingers doing the dirty work but ask yourself this? if we give Willian offensive freedom, who the hell protects our full back next time we play Everton and 2 off Piennar, Oviedo and Baines are bombing forward at will?I see some think 'but if we wanted a work horse winger we could have got one for 5m' possibly but i bet that player would have serious technical limit, wouldn't be able to bring the ball out and keep it under pressure like Willian does naturally, and this said player would probably get dispossessed in dodgy positions, which seldom happens to Willian. Barbara, BleedsBlue, Styles and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Willian's decision-making is decidedly sub-par however that is something he will improve upon with time and experience. For a new signing in a new league, I think he's done okay. A 7/10 for his debut season for me. bethos1 and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nice goal tonight, curious if he becomes a starter come WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nice goal tonight, curious if he becomes a starter come WC.would you start Ramires before him ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,851 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nice goal tonight, curious if he becomes a starter come WC.I don't think so.. It looks like Scolari doesn't really want to change the Confederation Cup winner team. Fred, Oscar, Hulk and Neymar will be the starting attackers unless anyone get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nice goal tonight, curious if he becomes a starter come WC.I think Hulk will be a starter ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think Hulk will be a starter ahead of him.Why? Hulk isn't even that good tbh. Willian is better and deserves to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Why? Hulk isn't even that good tbh. Willian is better and deserves to start.1. Personally I cant say that Willian is better for sure.2. Scolari likes to stay true to the players that he chooses, he'll probably use the same starting XI from the Confederation Cup. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 1. Personally I cant say that Willian is better for sure.2. Scolari likes to stay true to the players that he chooses, he'll probably use the same starting XI from the Confederation Cup.he is better for sure than Hulk because that isn't that hard to start with.Thing is NT teams are about instant chemistry more than long-term chemistry. So Hulk worked well in the confed cup and has been around for a while... therefore chances of Willian displacing him are minimal as Willian is quite new in the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 he is better for sure than Hulk because that isn't that hard to start with.Thing is NT teams are about instant chemistry more than long-term chemistry. So Hulk worked well in the confed cup and has been around for a while... therefore chances of Willian displacing him are minimal as Willian is quite new in the groupWell I haven't watched enough of Hulk.Your second point is the same as mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 he is better for sure than Hulk because that isn't that hard to start with.Thing is NT teams are about instant chemistry more than long-term chemistry. So Hulk worked well in the confed cup and has been around for a while... therefore chances of Willian displacing him are minimal as Willian is quite new in the groupDo you rate Hulk only based on national games? Because Hulk was one of best (if not best) players in Russia (I know...) but also very good in CL run.I dont think Hulk or Willian is better but Hulk sure has better finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Do you rate Hulk only based on national games? Because Hulk was one of best (if not best) players in Russia (I know...) but also very good in CL run.I dont think Hulk or Willian is better but Hulk sure has better finishing.I rate him for what he is, regardless of where he plays.and please, as you said yourself, doing well in Russia means absolutely nothing... and I disagree on the very good CL run. Good, nothing outstanding or even very good.He's limited, something Willian isn't imo. His finishing is on and off, depends on the day. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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