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Milan

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On a different note, with Mata and Willian being talked about a lot now -

'David Luiz is improving. He is training not yet with the group but training hard. If he is not available on Monday then we think he can be for the Bayern Munich game.'

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#mufc press conference is over. Moyes: "Rafael's out for 3-4 weeks. Young, Nani, and Chicha are still recovering, hopefully not far away."




Moyes on Monday: "I came to #mufc for this level of match. I also came to win trophies. To do that you have to beat the likes of Chelsea."


David Moyes on buying new players: "There is a need to do it but there's no pressure to do it. We'll bring in one or two if we can."



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Frank is the first name on the team sheet after Cech for this game. Im more worried to find out if it will be either Mata or KDB that starts on Monday. The fact that KDB didnt even play a minute vs Villa and Mata came off early really makes me confused.

My team to Vs United:

Cech

Invanovic-JT-Luiz-Cole

Lampard-Ramires

KDB-Oscar-Hazard

Lukaku

Mata on for Oscar, Van ginkel on for Frank and Schurrle on for Hazard.

U prefer KDB over Mata?

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My prediction;

Manchester United (2) vs (1) Chelsea
(v.Persie) (D.Welbeck) - - - (E.Hazard)
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Probable team; 4-3-3/4-5-1
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De Gea
Smalling - Rio - Vida© - Evra
Carrick
Jones------Giggs
Valencia ------------------Welbeck
- v.Persie -
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Don't expect to see an overly attacking team strategy for this game. We know your central-midfield is stronger than ours. Moyes will look to pack it a bit I thnk, so it isn't easy to keep the ball there. Or just limit Hazard and Mata's options, and space. Although possession isn't so crucial to be honest - as it worked allowing Swansea the ball and to pass it around until they advanced... then they were shut down. They're a good passing team and they had little joy. Moyes is defensively well organised. Still early days, but there are signs. We looked very solid last game. This is what we will see. A much better Manchester United defensively. We'll retain our forward players/play, and be harder to score past. Whilst Fergies' style was very exciting, it was always nail-biting stuff. I think Moyes will shake this off, and have us defend really well. He does seem to be applying the pressing as I hoped- but not overly, for our players legs.
This team is basically a 4-5-1 defending, with players that will work hard. Welbeck and Valencia drop back into the holes on the flanks when defending - equaling the 4-5-1. At the same time the team has so much pace down the wings. Perfect as Chelsea can be exploited at RB and LB in my opinion. Ivanovic never looks convincing but I'm pretty sure he'll play there since Mourniho said that's his place. Pretty sure of that anyway. Zaha could probably terrify Cole if he gets the chance....not to mention Nani. I don't think Chelsea have the fire-power to beat us. Furthermore, your central defense is weaker. Terry will have no answer to the pace. The depth of our bench would be pretty stupid for this game - Rooney, Kagawa, Nani, Hernandez, Zaha; Januzaj. That's not all of them, but you say you have a stronger team - looking at that bench, I'm not sure you do. We have Rafael out too, and are still able to put out a strong squad.
Lets do a basic sum up out of interest. I'll try and stick to the same position played for comparisons.
(Assuming 100% squad availibility)
GK; De Gea vs Cech 1-0 (Keeper of the season - it's close however)
RB; Rafael vs Ivanovic 1-0 (Getting close to the complete RB, and has been more impressive lately - and Iva is Out Of Position for me)
CB; Vidic vs Luiz 0-1 (This would be Vidic all day if it wasn't for recent injuries)
CB; Rio vs Terry 1-0 (Team of the year Rio....oh yeah)
LB; Evra vs Cole 1-1 (I'm being kind to Cole here after Evra's season - and you know it)
CDM; Carrick vs Mikel/De Bruyne (No point) 1-0
LCM/LF/CAM; Kagawa vs Hazard 0-1 (Hazard with the game time to prove himself)
CAM/SS; Rooney vs Oscar 1-0 (Last seasons contribution speaks for it's self)
CM; Cleverley vs Ramires 1-1 (Both are just good squad players)
RM; Valencia vs Mata 0-1 (Best comparison, since you generally don't use convential wingers)
CF; Welbeck vs Torres 1-1 (Welbeck is in form but it's up in the air)
ST; v.Persie vs Lukaku 1-0 (Why bother)
SUBS;
Nani vs Schurllee 1-1 (Nani is clearly better but his form is dreadful - hence the draw)
Hernandez vs Ba 1-0 (More goals - way more important key goals)
Anderson vs Lampard 0-1 (Anderson will be eating something somewhere - he won't care)
Smalling vs Cahill 1-1 (Whilst Smalling doesn't get that many run outs, he's certainly no worse than Cahill)
Zaha vs Moses - 1-0 (Zaha shown more in a couple of weeks than Moses in six months)
SCORE: United #13. Chelsea #9.
In my summation our squad is still better after no signings. Don't say I'm biased, those player scores are fair. I'm not going to say you couldn't make an argument somewhere but it's as fair as I can see. I think some of you vastly overrate your squad. You would fall apart without Mata and Hazard. We motor on with nobody with any world-class creativity from centre-attacking-midfield. We can easily replace any of our team members with the exception of Robin and not really be weakened. You cannot - and with those striking options I'd settle for third. Not even Jose Mourniho can make Fernando Torres play well. As for Demba Ba - we all know his priority was the money. Which leaves you Lukaku; excellent striker but needs to play every game to make the progress, and I don't know if he's going to get them games. Mourinho is desperate for some world-class attacking goal scorer. He's worried, and rightly so.
Anyway.... *The Champions* are about to send out an unstoppable warning - fear us; I predict a wake up call for you all. We are the champions, and we will show you why on Monday.

De Gea =Cech. Nani is equal to Schurrle. Cleverly equal to Ramires. (btw our main RB is Azpilicueta and hopefully Mourinho will realise that we should play him on Monday Night) Cole=Evra. Torres=Welbeck (This time I'm actually saying in favour to United). Cahill=Smalling. Rooney=Oscar.

I personally disagree with all these statements. I think we're better than United in all those positons. (Except Welbeck's better than Torres)

(and arguably Zaha=Moses too. I haven't seen too much of Zaha but I've heard he gave away the ball a lot in the Com Shield)

Rooney might not even play so it would be unfair to add him.

For some reason I fancy us to win it since we have a good record vs Man United. We were spectacular vs Man United last season (the one game we drew we should have won, the game we lost 3-2 [well I don't need to explain about that])

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He said Rafael was close to being the complete RB, well for a start he cannot defend to save his life.....

Are you really this misinformed? You've just stated a defender playing for the champions can't defend. That is effectively a whole man down. So we won the title with ten men? Go check his stats for last season, and watch some games maybe, you'll see how badly wrong you are.

This is a dire statement.

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