Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 wouldnt they be more determined to get torres. rather than come away empty handed.how so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Perfectly justified decision but Torres leaving on loan > van Ginkel leaving on loan, IMO, so it's mixed feelings. We still need 1 foreign player off our roster if we don't sign anyone and the attention will probably swing back to Cech. Also, to sign Destro, which is the most important thing now, we need to let go of 2 foreign players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 wouldnt they be more determined to get torres. rather than come away empty handed.i'd also think so. After Galliani has already confirmed to fans that he would be in for FT and MvG he just can't come out and say he failed twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenIsLegend 475 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Feel this guy has the potential to do an Azpi. Work his socks off in training and take every opportunity given to him. Sidzeret, kellzfresh and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Great attitude by the lad to want to stay and fight for his place here, but I fear this may not be the best decision for his development. Obviously it's too early to tell, especially with so little game time to go around at the moment, but I fear what happened to Kalas last season will happen to Marco this year. Eidur the Spider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Great attitude by the lad to want to stay and fight for his place here, but I fear this may not be the best decision for his development. Obviously it's too early to tell, especially with so little game time to go around at the moment, but I fear what happened to Kalas last season will happen to Marco this year. I think he has more chances... Luiz was used as our first replacement in the defense and while Ramires would replace a few guys in our midfield, I think he's more of an AN for Mourinho than a proper center midfielder... I think he'll play much more than Kalas did in case he stays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 He will likely play in all of our capital cup games along with earlier FA games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think that if he had gone then he'd have been done here, so I'm glad he's sticking around. We may well need him as the games get closer and at the start of next year when Mikel has better things to do than play for this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think that if he had gone then he'd have been done here, so I'm glad he's sticking around. We may well need him as the games get closer and at the start of next year when Mikel has better things to do than play for this club.maybe we can give mikel to milan in january. once he has his precious passport. Barbara, The only place to be and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 He will likely play in all of our capital cup games along with earlier FA gamesduring one of the most intense part of the season between December and January when we play a lot, we mostly face only bottom table sides in EPL. I think we may see in some of those matches too - but just a few, the thing is we never know how he'll respond, maybe he starts impressing in training and in the few matches and boom, he's the first name to come in when Matic and/or Fabregas need to rest or can't play. DANILA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think he has more chances... Luiz was used as our first replacement in the defense and while Ramires would replace a few guys in our midfield, I think he's more of an AN for Mourinho than a proper center midfielder... I think he'll play much more than Kalas did in case he staysI surely hope so, but I just fear for him. We've suffered too much with young players like Marco to not have a lot of concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I surely hope so, but I just fear for him. We've suffered too much with young players like Marco to not have a lot of concerns. I don't think Jose intended to ignore Kalas it was more bad luck than anything.He was injured at the start then missed the Swindon match were he would have likely played, then he was fit for the next round but, again unfortunately for him, we were at The Emirates, then after that Gary and John established themselves as the foundation of the team for the rest of the season. Im sure Mou was being genuine when he said Kalas would start twenty games, just a series off circumstances prevented it happening.Also with Huth, Mikel and Varane, Jose has already shown in his career he will give a young player an important role under the correct conditions. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 We were going to loan mvg for a season. Having mainly 4 CM/DMs. People who think mikel is here only cos of his passport thing have got to be the most iggorant and blind people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think Jose intended to ignore Kalas it was more bad luck than anything.He was injured at the start then missed the Swindon match were he would have likely played, then he was fit for the next round but, again unfortunately for him, we were at The Emirates, then after that Gary and John established themselves as the foundation of the team for the rest of the season.Im sure Mou was being genuine when he said Kalas would start twenty games, just a series off circumstances prevented it happening.Also with Huth, Mikel and Varane, Jose has already shown in his career he will give a young player an important role under the correct conditions. Kalas was never going to play 20 games. Terry, Cahill, Luiz, and Ivanovic were all ahead of him at CB. 4th/5th choice CBs don't get any playing time on any team and it was obvious before the season that Kalas wasn't going to play much.I think he has more chances... Luiz was used as our first replacement in the defense and while Ramires would replace a few guys in our midfield, I think he's more of an AN for Mourinho than a proper center midfielder... I think he'll play much more than Kalas did in case he staysLuiz was our first replacement midfielder when Ramires and Lampard was our midfield pairing. We have since added Fabergas and Matic. Ramires is third choice and Mikel is the guy Mourinho likes to bring on late in games to help close things out. It is hard to see MVG getting very many minutes barring major injuries. He's a better and more well-rounded prospect than Romeu so I have higher hopes for him but at some point, he is going to have to play more than just a few minutes here and there in order to take the next step in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 We were going to loan mvg for a season. Having mainly 4 CM/DMs.People who think mikel is here only cos of his passport thing have got to be the most iggorant and blind people.So you're saying that Mikel doesn't want a British passport then?Van Ginkel can do the Mikel job. Mikel doesn't do a single special thing. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 So you're saying that Mikel doesn't want a British passport then?did u miss reading ONLY??? Mikel is here cos jose wants him. That's why romeu went on loan and that's why we dint have a problem with teying to loan mvg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 did u miss reading ONLY???Mikel is here cos jose wants him. That's why romeu went on loan and that's why we dint have a problem with teying to loan mvg.So you're saying that we could sell Mikel, but Jose actually wants him here? What are you basing that on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 So you're saying that we could sell Mikel, but Jose actually wants him here? What are you basing that on?The fact that nikel is here while everyone that jose does not want is leaving or atleast rumored to be leaving aka luiz, lukaku, ba, torres etc etc.What FACTS are u basing your hate on that mikel is here not cos jose wants him but cos he has passport issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The fact that nikel is here while everyone that jose does not want is leaving or atleast rumored to be leaving aka luiz, lukaku, ba, torres etc etc.What FACTS are u basing your hate on that mikel is here not cos jose wants him but cos he has passport issues?Luiz, Lukaku and Ba all wanted to leave. Torres hasn't left yet. Van Ginkel apparently doesn't want to leave either, and he hasn't.I'm basing it on things I've heard from people I trust. He's eligible for a passport in October, no-one in this country wants to buy him and he doesn't want to leave until he's got it. Can't do much if he doesn't want to leave, but people at the club think he's served us well enough to deserve it. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 A player that did nothing in football (and he won't play in Chelsea) saying no to ACMilan...This guy has some real issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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