André Schürrle

[The Mak 4,459]

For all i like his work ethic, his half term report is average and has do much better,I thought Moses done a half decent job for us in his 1st season with us and his goals&assists tally were quite decent for the amount of games he played and thought this guy would bring more to the team than Moses but so far...average he has been imho

I think some people are forgetting how hot and cold Moses was, and by that I mean mostly cold.

He would rarely have a good game and most of the time he managed to absolutely murder our counter-attacks single-handedly because of his horrible touch and control.

Schurrle hasn't been good in his past two appearances I'll admit, but up until then he was always good when called upon. He went the good part of a month without playing, but managed to get us 2 goals (almost 3) against Stoke when he came back - not that I expect people to readily remember that because we lost, so people are prone to amnesia in this case. Moses on the other hand can't get into Liverpool's team.

A lot of people around here seem to be prone to the 'recency effect'....first in the Mata thread, now here!

[Toli 977]

I think some people are forgetting how hot and cold Moses was, and by that I mean mostly cold.

He would rarely have a good game and most of the time he managed to absolutely murder our counter-attacks single-handedly because of his horrible touch and control.

Schurrle hasn't been good in his past two appearances I'll admit, but up until then he was always good when called upon. He went the good part of a month without playing, but managed to get us 2 goals (almost 3) against Stoke when he came back - not that I expect people to readily remember that because we lost, so people are prone to amnesia in this case. Moses on the other hand can't get into Liverpool's team.

A lot of people around here seem to be prone to the 'recency effect'....first in the Mata thread, now here!

you forgot the cahill thread. 3 weeks ago he was a pile of crap and now he seems to be next to god.

Schürrlle has had a decent season so far. most of his games he played really well, his last games werent so good, but he isnt used to the christmas-playing time because in germany there is a long break etc. also he admitted by himself that he needs to adapt and get some muscles on etc. I think that he hwas way more potential than Moses and is actually better than Moses (even though moses would be a good back-up too)

[Stingray 9,441]

I think some people are forgetting how hot and cold Moses was, and by that I mean mostly cold.

He would rarely have a good game and most of the time he managed to absolutely murder our counter-attacks single-handedly because of his horrible touch and control.

Schurrle hasn't been good in his past two appearances I'll admit, but up until then he was always good when called upon. He went the good part of a month without playing, but managed to get us 2 goals (almost 3) against Stoke when he came back - not that I expect people to readily remember that because we lost, so people are prone to amnesia in this case. Moses on the other hand can't get into Liverpool's team.

A lot of people around here seem to be prone to the 'recency effect'....first in the Mata thread, now here!

you forgot the cahill thread. 3 weeks ago he was a pile of crap and now he seems to be next to god.

Schürrlle has had a decent season so far. most of his games he played really well, his last games werent so good, but he isnt used to the christmas-playing time because in germany there is a long break etc. also he admitted by himself that he needs to adapt and get some muscles on etc. I think that he hwas way more potential than Moses and is actually better than Moses (even though moses would be a good back-up too)

Yeah, just think how KDB must feel ........

[mac.bo 48]

I think some people are forgetting how hot and cold Moses was, and by that I mean mostly cold.

He would rarely have a good game and most of the time he managed to absolutely murder our counter-attacks single-handedly because of his horrible touch and control.

Schurrle hasn't been good in his past two appearances I'll admit, but up until then he was always good when called upon. He went the good part of a month without playing, but managed to get us 2 goals (almost 3) against Stoke when he came back - not that I expect people to readily remember that because we lost, so people are prone to amnesia in this case. Moses on the other hand can't get into Liverpool's team.

A lot of people around here seem to be prone to the 'recency effect'....first in the Mata thread, now here![/quote

Moses got 10 goals from 25 games cost 9m if my memory serves me correct which was not a bad 1st season return , to think Schurrle has greatly evolved our team to this point would lead anybody with such thoughts to the

nearest german train station

[Jype 6,398]

Moses got 10 goals from 25 games cost 9m if my memory serves me correct which was not a bad 1st season return , to think Schurrle has greatly evolved our team to this point would lead anybody with such thoughts to the

nearest german train station

25 games my ass. He played well over 40 games and in the PL he had only one goal in 23 appearances, Schürrle already has three.

[Beigl 1,387]

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Moses got 10 goals from 25 games cost 9m if my memory serves me correct which was not a bad 1st season return , to think Schurrle has greatly evolved our team to this point would lead anybody with such thoughts to the

nearest german train station

25 games my ass. He played well over 40 games and in the PL he had only one goal in 23 appearances, Schürrle already has three.

Exactly.Schürrle in my eyes has much more potential than Moses and suits our system much better.Yes ,last season Victor got his goals,but to be honest he isn 't more than a squad player for us.

Too often his technical limitations or his sloppyness on the ball shone trough.Schürrle on the other hand,has his first season in the best league of the world and faces much more competition than in Leverkusen.Until December the german did pretty well against Steaua or Schalke for example,but he after the Stoke game he couldn't keep up his form somehow.

Just see what happens,its his first season after all.

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[The Mak 4,459]

25 games my ass. He played well over 40 games and in the PL he had only one goal in 23 appearances, Schürrle already has three.

Thanks Jype, someone likes to interpret stats their own way to suit their arguments!

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Really think he won't make it big here especially with Hazard, Oscar and Willian all better than him atm. It is also not like he is much younger than them so when he improves, they will as well. Unless he is gonna settle for that bench spot I could see him staying here until the end of next season then considering his future.

[mac.bo 48]

25 games my ass. He played well over 40 games and in the PL he had only one goal in 23 appearances, Schürrle already has three.

Ok he started 27 games and came on sub 16 times in his 1st year = 43 :Goals 10>Price 9M

Schurrle started 12 games and came on sub 10 times =23 :Goals 3>Price 18m

Stick those stats up your ass and read the rest of the topic for the whole opinion if you desire

[Jype 6,398]

Ok he started 27 games and came on sub 16 times in his 1st year = 43 :Goals 10>Price 9M

Schurrle started 12 games and came on sub 10 times =23 :Goals 3>Price 18m

Stick those stats up your ass and read the rest of the topic for the whole opinion if you desire

Really don't care about any statistics but yours were clearly wrong so I just pointed that out. Moses' stats were inflated by the fact he was impressive in the minor competitions like Europa League and the League Cup. The PL is and always should be Chelsea's main priority and there Moses was bad, only one league goal and not many assists either. To me that would still be forgiven had he at least looked decent but his all-around play is too inconsistent. He was the same when still at Wigan and is still shit at Liverpool, so I can only make a conclusion that Victor Moses is not a good enough player for a top club.

Schürrle apart from the last few appearances has mostly been good. Hasn't had many opportunities on his natural position on the left wing, which is understandable given Hazard's form, and he's also been struggling with his fitness but I have faith in the lad once he's fully settled in. Watched him a lot under Sami Hyypiä's management at Leverkusen and believe me when I tell you that we haven't seen the best of him yet.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Really think he won't make it big here especially with Hazard, Oscar and Willian all better than him atm. It is also not like he is much younger than them so when he improves, they will as well. Unless he is gonna settle for that bench spot I could see him staying here until the end of next season then considering his future.

Schurrle fits all three spots without compromising the high-pressing, counter-attacking game we want to play. I don't understand why we'd consider getting rid of him after less than two seasons.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Schurrle fits all three spots without compromising the high-pressing, counter-attacking game we want to play. I don't understand why we'd consider getting rid of him after less than two seasons.

Not we, he will want to leave imo I don't see him as the type of player who will just sit back on the bench to play 1/3 of the game for a season, he will want to start regularly eventually and I think it won't happen seeing the current 3 will probably be Jose's permanent picks.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Not we, he will want to leave imo I don't see him as the type of player who will just sit back on the bench to play 1/3 of the game for a season, he will want to start regularly eventually and I think it won't happen seeing the current 3 will probably be Jose's permanent picks.

He'll get 30-35 games a season. I can't see him being too unhappy with that, and there's really no such thing as a permanent pick in a 60 game season.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

He'll get 30-35 games a season. I can't see him being too unhappy with that, and there's really no such thing as a permanent pick in a 60 game season.

30-35 games with most of them coming off the bench? because for example Hazard and Oscar will play like about every single game available, only 1 place for Willian and Schurrle and Jose is known to have favorite eventually. But then again he experienced this with the national team so I guess he could get used to that here too if it means winning some trophies and earning good money.

[mac.bo 48]

Really don't care about any statistics but yours were clearly wrong so I just pointed that out. Moses' stats were inflated by the fact he was impressive in the minor competitions like Europa League and the League Cup. The PL is and always should be Chelsea's main priority and there Moses was bad, only one league goal and not many assists either. To me that would still be forgiven had he at least looked decent but his all-around play is too inconsistent. He was the same when still at Wigan and is still shit at Liverpool, so I can only make a conclusion that Victor Moses is not a good enough player for a top club.

Schürrle apart from the last few appearances has mostly been good. Hasn't had many opportunities on his natural position on the left wing, which is understandable given Hazard's form, and he's also been struggling with his fitness but I have faith in the lad once he's fully settled in. Watched him a lot under Sami Hyypiä's management at Leverkusen and believe me when I tell you that we haven't seen the best of him yet. [/quote

Hull-Average at best

A.Villa-Average at best

Manu-Average at best

Everton-Average at best

Fulham-Better

Spurs-Average

Norwich-ok

M.city-ok

Newcastle-Average at best

West ham-ok

Sunderland-mmm

Stoke-Best game

Arsenal-Average at best

Swansea-Average at best

Southampton-poor

Agree with the other comments u posted.

[The Mak 4,459]

Learn to know the difference between opinions and arguments and it will serve you well in life! Stats are there even if you dont like them to clarify what is black and white and leave no area for grey,but i will leave you so you can bog it up your friends ass lol

Lol, whatever that means!

You and your stats. How about not looking at numbers and look at the games themselves? No? Too difficult? A blind person would know who the better player is. One player has 30 appearances for one of the best international sides in the world with 11 goals and the other is Victor Moses for fuck sake. Schurrle scores against quality teams like Austria, Belgium, Sweden and Ireland ( ) in important World Cup qualifiers while Moses scores against Ethiopia...

Look at the stats then. Moses, an established PL player, scored 1 goals in the league in 23 appearances against Swansea. Goals against Leeds, Middlesbrough, Wolves, Southampton, Rubin Kazan, Basel and Shaktar in cup competitions. Besides from Shaktar, the teams he's scored against aren't exactly great. They're mainly Championship and Europa League level.

Schurrle on the other hand is only half-way through his first season and has already tripled Moses' contribution in the league. Sounds exaggerated I know, but those are the stats! His goals came away to Stoke and at home to Manchester City, a title rival. That goal against City could mean a lot more than a number on a page. If we end up winning the league, it could be argued that Schurrle's contribution is already tenfold to that of Moses. He's also only been used in one cup game so far against PL opposition compared to 14 games of Moses (including EL) where he was mainly effective.

He's performed well in the Champions League games and looked an absolute menace against Munich - people tend to forget that as well. That is mainly due to the pace being similar to the Bundesliga and as soon as he is fully adapted here I would expect to see similar performances in the league. He has still done well in the league though and I do not think it is a coincidence that his dip in form has come at a time where he is used to having a winter break.

My main point is that we want players who can do well against quality opposition when called upon, not just against Championship/Europa league level teams...and so, indicating that Moses is as good as/better than Schurrle based on those stats is like saying Torres had a fantastic goalscoring season last year!

Let's wait until Schurrle's second season to begin to truly judge him, but so far I think it is clear that he's the better option when compared alongside Moses. Though, I'm not really sure if you remember what Moses was like. I think you're in for a shock if he ever comes back!

Just to remind you as well, the only reason we signed Moses was because we couldn't get Schurrle. I think the club had Schurrle as the preferred choice for a reason. I'll leave you with that and your dissected stats. Now jog bog on

[Rom2013 446]

I think we need to start thinking about CHelsea as one of the best clubs in the world.

You don't see any player in Real Madrid that is a regular 2nd choice saying that he wants to leave. FOr example Di Maria is right now a second choice, he knew it in the begining of the season and he still stayed after being in the starting eleven for 3 years.

Higuain was for one year or two years in the starting eleven of Madrid, on the other seasons he had to fight against everyone (Van Nistelroy, Raul, Benzema, etc).

That's how things work in great teams. We have 5 great AM, 3 great CB, 2 great RB, and we should have at least 2 great/very good players for every position if we want to fight for everything including the CHampions League.

The players that don't want to fight for their spot are not good enough to play for a giant like we are. They go and we buy another great player to replace them.

We can't have just 4 AM with international quality, because if one of them is injured we are in great problems playing 2 games every weak.

There are enough games for everyone if they work properly.

[The Mak 4,459]

U need help ... What about give Moses a second season to judge then,if you could get your dick out of your german ass (male probly reading your comments)and read the topic and comments you would read my positives about Scurrle and want him to be a huge success but unless you take off your german gimp outfit and see he has been average to date and hasnt evolved the team blah blah,but as in your life you probly look on the negatives,ffs gimp boy

Lol, are you crying over your stats?

Don't cry about it lad!