!Hazard! 3,394 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Buy him in January!! We can afford to offer him bigger wages than Bayern because of how strong the pound is right now.200k euros per week is only 145k pounds at the moment. And for example Fabregas is making around 200k pounds at the moment in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Wonderful wonderful player. Mundo Deportivo claims Barca is interested, fee 38m...not sure how reliable tho.If there is any player that at least looks available and is worth the price, then Gundogan would be my choice to break the bank. If we offered 30m for Stones, we should offer that or more for Gundogan. You dont see players like him available every season. We already missed on Modric, Verratti, Vidal and bunch of others.His age, his price, his workrate, his creativity and dribbling abilities, would be amazing fit into our midfield. He is a joy to watch.The lad would probably improve Barca, he is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z?Not really. Most DBZ character names are silly puns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z?The name sounds more like a Pokemon character." I choose you, Gundogan!" Appearance yes, looks a bit like vegeta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Would be ideal for partnership with Matić. Only 25. Would give 40 millions for him.Let's compare him with Fabregas:Passing Cesc > GundoSpeed Cesc << GundoBody strength Cesc << GundoTech/Skill on the ball Cesc ~ GundoStamina Cesc < GundoShot Cesc < GundoOverall defense ability Cesc << GundoAge Cesc << GundoCorners Cesc > GundoFrom what I saw. Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 good player i rather have koke instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Would be ideal for partnership with Matić. Only 25. Would give 40 millions for him.Let's compare him with Fabregas:Passing Cesc > GundoSpeed Cesc << GundoBody strength Cesc << GundoTech/Skill on the ball Cesc ~ GundoStamina Cesc < GundoShot Cesc < GundoOverall defense ability Cesc << GundoAge Cesc << GundoCorners Cesc > GundoFrom what I saw. Agree?Gundogan's the better passer imo. Cesc's the superior long passer but when it comes to short passing and one-touch passing, I think Ilkay has him beat. And he's much better than Cesc when it comes to passing under pressure and disguising his passes. Gundogan is easily more skillful as well.Never happening though if you ask me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him holding up a Barca shirt in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Gundogan's the better passer imo. He's the superior long passer but when it comes to short passing and one-touch passing, I think Ilkay has him beat. And he's much better than Cesc when it comes to passing under pressure and disguising his passes. Gundogan is easily more skillful as well.Never happening though if you ask me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him holding up a Barca shirt in the summer.I judged by last Fabregas season, when he had those crazy assists. I think Fabregas has more key passes (as WhoScored status shows), that's why I gave him advantage.With more skillful I can agree. So I guess Gundo is even more better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I judged by last Fabregas season, when he had those crazy assists. I think Fabregas has more key passes (as WhoScored status shows), that's why I gave him advantage.With more skillful I can agree. So I guess Gundo is even more better.True. Fabregas is far more incisive with his passing, takes a lot of risks. He is better when it comes to delivering the final pass, forgot to mention that. They're different types of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 True. Fabregas is far more incisive with his passing, takes a lot of risks. He is better when it comes to delivering the final pass, forgot to mention that. They're different types of players.Agree, they are different. But still want to compare them since they play on same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ilkay Gundogan has yet to decide where his future lies with just 18 months remaining on his current deal. (Evening Standard) #BVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Real is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Real is my bet.Modrić, Kroos, Isco, Kovačić, James...Maybe, but only if they sell Modrić or Isco. Modrić because he is not so young, Isco because he might ask for more regular playing time somewhere else.There are a lot great CMF-s these days. Barca/Real/City can't get them all. Gundogan, Pogba, Koke,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Would be ideal for partnership with Matić. Only 25. Would give 40 millions for him.Let's compare him with Fabregas:Passing Cesc > GundoSpeed Cesc << GundoBody strength Cesc << GundoTech/Skill on the ball Cesc ~ GundoStamina Cesc < GundoShot Cesc < GundoOverall defense ability Cesc << GundoAge Cesc << GundoCorners Cesc > GundoFrom what I saw. Agree?cesc and gundo should not even be a comparision. literally no area where cesc beats him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 İlkay Gündoğan has admitted his Dortmund future is uncertain and that Liverpool have a 'good team and great coach'. (Source: Daily Mail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Gundogan should be our priority signing for the January market. He is the only creative midfielder available in the market right now and with Gundogan we would get rebuild our midfield.I wish that we begin to move faster and have a contact with Gundogan to get his move and beat Liverpool.Gundogan must be a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 cesc and gundo should not even be a comparision. literally no area where cesc beats him.DD my friend I know you dislike Cesc and I agree he is a liability against good pressing teams but we shouldn't forget what he is capable of. He had over 20 assists for us last season and his general vision is a big big joy to watch when he's in form, just like Hazard's dribbles. I'd say vision and the final pass: Cesc>GundoganLook at this video: pfff look at that pass at 01:50, I miss that Cesc, his passing sometimes was so sick, he was sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Gundogan should be our priority signing for the January market. He is the only creative midfielder available in the market right now and with Gundogan we would get rebuild our midfield.I wish that we begin to move faster and have a contact with Gundogan to get his move and beat Liverpool.Gundogan must be a priority.Exactly. Watching fabregas chasing people with his slow speed against tottenham was just sad.We need mobility in midfield, people that can beat their marker one on one and still is technically sound in passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 DD my friend I know you dislike Cesc and I agree he is a liability against good pressing teams but we shouldn't forget what he is capable of. He had over 20 assists for us last season and his general vision is a big big joy to watch when he's in form, just like Hazard's dribbles. I'd say vision and the final pass: Cesc>GundoganLook at this video: https://youtu.be/YXKA5rTAjGEpfff look at that pass at 01:50, I miss that Cesc, his passing sometimes was so sick, he was sublime. sorry but one pass per a match proves nothing. there was a video compilation of mikel that would make him look like messi.what this video does not show that for every 1 sublime pass there are 5 times where he tries this pass and loses the ball or just simply loses the ball under any pressure at all. his "vision" is only good when he gets ample time and space. in his early days at chelsea, teams were not sure of how to play against him. they defended with a lower block concentrating more on eden and costa which gave cesc the time and space to run the show. remember when we all wondered why his performances in "big games" was so poor. well, this was because big teams pressed and never gave him an oppurtunity to settle on the ball. now that all teams have started doing this, he has been totally and fully exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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