Fernando Torres

[Madmax 9,219]

One hack asked if the relationship Torres and Mata share will help get the best out of Torres. AvB made a funny face and murmured something to dismiss the question

[Kieran. 6,317]

Fucking knobhead? I have no idea...

[Madmax 9,219]

What does he says ? Fucking what ?

'Fucking want my wife too? Never!'

[dodojojo 510]

'Fucking want my wife too? Never!'

Lol. Now, now

He's using his hands, so it's obviously "Puta di hijo".

[Madmax 9,219]

Lol. Now, now

He's using his hands, so it's obviously "Puta di hijo".

Haha, joking

But yeah, could make out ''puta'' at the end. Preceded by ''fucking knobhead'' it looks like.

[Kieran. 6,317]

We really need to buy a creative midfielder for this man.

Obviously not *exclusively* for him, but the service he gets is appalling.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Here's hoping Nando can use his brilliant Negotiational skills to bring in Javi Martinez and/or Jesus Navas

[Tortilla9 390]

We really need to buy a creative midfielder for this man.

Obviously not *exclusively* for him, but the service he gets is appalling.

Torres said to self: If nobody on this team wants to give me the ball, I'll go find somebody who will. A week later...Mata.

I kid but I think once he got wind of Mata he took the bull by the horns (no pun intended) and sold Chelsea to Mata. The service to Torres is an issue but every forward on this team should demand quality service and every player on this team should want to provide it to Torres, Drobga, Lukaku, Sturridge, Kalou, etc. It's a team game and if you can't get one player involved, especially your spearhead, something needs to be corrected. And it appears AVB is trying to do that not just for Torres but for the team.

[bababoom 4,478]

Here's hoping Nando can use his brilliant Negotiational skills to bring in Javi Martinez and/or Jesus Navas

He might not have them added on his phone, hopefully he does.

[dodojojo 510]

He might not have them added on his phone, hopefully he does.

They're on the national team so I'm pretty sure he does

[bababoom 4,478]

They're on the national team so I'm pretty sure he does

Haha, true. He might be already texting away to the players, i'd imagine him writing 'you fancy joining Chelsea', it seems very persuasive to me.

[Madmax 9,219]

We don't need any more proof that the Torres-Drogba experiment doesn't work. Whether in a more conventional 4-4-2 or as a diamond midfield. And it's apparent why. The squad is so attuned to Drogba's strengths that even when both of them are on the pitch together the rest of them play as they would if Drogba was the lone striker. Now that Mata has arrived and another technical forward player likely to arrive (whether that is a winger or someone like Modric) we will see a shift towards a more inventive, quick passing game that is suited to our new acquisitions.

[dodojojo 510]

I'm in the same boat as you. Unfortunately it's been well shown that the partnership doesn't work. Any surprise Torres, who was great against Stoke and pretty good against WBA, looked a bit flat today? I wish AVB had given him and Mata more time. Space is Torres' best friend and I think he would have been better in the last 20 minutes.

Just wanted to add that the above in no way absolves Torres from not being better today. He needs to sharpen up quick in the box.

[Tomo 21,681]

Most frustrating thing about Torres and Drogba is on paper there partnership should be the most feared in the world.

They are both polar opposites in terms of their strenghts and are both world class forwards, on paper it should have got close to the Jimmy and Eidur partnership.

[Madmax 9,219]

I'm in the same boat as you. Unfortunately it's been well shown that the partnership doesn't work. Any surprise Torres, who was great against Stoke and pretty good against WBA, looked a bit flat today? I wish AVB had given him and Mata more time. Space is Torres' best friend and I think he would have been better in the last 20 minutes.

Just wanted to add that the above in no way absolves Torres from not being better today. He needs to sharpen up quick in the box.

Yeah he looked flat today. It was not the eager and confident looking Torres we saw in the first 2 games. In the first half there was a situation where Lampard played a beautiful first time ball towards him and he was on the edge of the area one on one with a defender and he looked like a rabbit caught in headlights. I guarantee you the Torres of earlier would have taken on the defender with a change of pace, made some room for himself and gotten a shot away, possibly scored.

[zolayes 14,489]

Most frustrating thing about Torres and Drogba is on paper there partnership should be the most feared in the world.

They are both polar opposites in terms of their strenghts and are both world class forwards, on paper it should have got close to the Jimmy and Eidur partnership.

they don't even look as if they enjoy playing together

[dodojojo 510]

Yeah he looked flat today. It was not the eager and confident looking Torres we saw in the first 2 games. In the first half there was a situation where Lampard played a beautiful first time ball towards him and he was on the edge of the area one on one with a defender and he looked like a rabbit caught in headlights. I guarantee you the Torres of earlier would have taken on the defender with a change of pace, made some room for himself and gotten a shot away, possibly scored.

That's the play where he rightly should be criticized. Poor from him. I've have given him a 7.5 for Stoke, a 6.5 for WBA and a 5.5 for today. He wasn't good today but it highlights why the DD/FT partnership doesn't work.

[DJ Nevin 24]

Torres seems to be a jinxed player. He was fantastic at Atletico and in his first two years at Liverpool but, whatever his physical state at the moment, his confidence seems to have been completely eroded by the media shitstorm surrounding his move to Chelsea and I can't see things getting any better. The press are unlikely to let things go unless he scores braces and hattricks in every game and it looks like yet another barren season for him. Sad to see all that brilliance erased but he appears to have fallen out of love with football and the move to Chelsea just doesn't seem to have taken fire. Thank God for Mata who appears to be as resilient as he is dynamic.