🇪🇸 Fernando Torres

[Blue Armour 4,439]

This is clearly not an anti-Chelsea forum! You can tell by how the users stick for Chelsea itself instead of the players (most of them at least). Players who are playing well get a praise because they are doing good for Chelsea. We then talk about how annoying some bad players in Chelsea are since they are doing bad for Chelsea. Most of us want whats best for Chelsea, and not the players.

I'm not entirely sure after seeing the last few pages of this thread...If you disregard the fact that the fellow who played up front for us against Fulham had the name Torres, almost everyone would say he had a decent performance for a forward, challenging the keeper, getting shots on target and providing an assist. Not comment after comment about how he should take the next flight back to Spain.

[haranr 485]

OUUUTTTTT OOOUUUTTTTTTT !!!! HOW THE FUCK IS HE STILL IN OUR CLUB

[hjperdeath 2,226]

OUUUTTTTT OOOUUUTTTTTTT !!!! HOW THE FUCK IS HE STILL IN OUR CLUB

cause thankfully you aren't in charge...

[YouNameIt 1,511]

cause thankfully you aren't in charge...

Are u saying you want Torres to stay in Chelsea? If so then PLEASE tell us why because that'll be very interesting reading.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Are u saying you want Torres to stay in Chelsea? If so then PLEASE tell us why because that'll be very interesting reading.

I didn't say I want him to stay. Who in their right mind would do that?

[didierforever 7,349]

HOW THE FUCK IS HE STILL IN OUR CLUB

FT9 is still here cos of FFP (contrary to popular belief). its easier said that "get him off the wage bill" as he would make room plus we "can use his transfer funds for another striker" but the reality is absolutely different.

when we amortize FT's transfer fee (50mil) over his contract (5.5 years) it comes close to 9 mil per season. Plus lets say his wages are 10 mil.

hence for the whole 2013-14 season FT costed us 19mil.

if suppose FT was sold in this summer (2013 summer). then he balance value (27 million for the left 3 years of his contract would have been charged on us thru FFP). plus suppose we sold him for 10mil. hence incurring a loss of 17mil, and also losing a striker. now if we had bought someone for 30mil at 6mil wages, he would have costed us another 12mil for this season, hence bringing the total cost of one striker upto close to 30mil for one season compared to the 19 mil torres is costing us for the season.

now, if we sell him in 2014 summer, he would cost us 18mil. again lets say he was sold for 10mil,hence a loss of 8mil. plus suppose we buy costa/mandzukic for 30mil at 6/7mil per year wages, then the total account for one striker comes upto be 8+6+6=20mil, compared to the 19mil he will cost us next season.

hence, let us give our board a little respect and benefit of doubt or atleast not ridicule them for what they are doing.

[mediator 2,026]

FT9 is still here cos of FFP (contrary to popular belief). its easier said that "get him off the wage bill" as he would make room plus we "can use his transfer funds for another striker" but the reality is absolutely different.

when we amortize FT's transfer fee (50mil) over his contract (5.5 years) it comes close to 9 mil per season. Plus lets say his wages are 10 mil.

hence for the whole 2013-14 season FT costed us 19mil.

if suppose FT was sold in this summer (2013 summer). then he balance value (27 million for the left 3 years of his contract would have been charged on us thru FFP). plus suppose we sold him for 10mil. hence incurring a loss of 17mil, and also losing a striker. now if we had bought someone for 30mil at 6mil wages, he would have costed us another 12mil for this season, hence bringing the total cost of one striker upto close to 30mil for one season compared to the 19 mil torres is costing us for the season.

now, if we sell him in 2014 summer, he would cost us 18mil. again lets say he was sold for 10mil,hence a loss of 8mil. plus suppose we buy costa/mandzukic for 30mil at 6/7mil per year wages, then the total account for one striker comes upto be 8+6+6=20mil, compared to the 19mil he will cost us next season.

hence, let us give our board a little respect and benefit of doubt or atleast not ridicule them for what they are doing.

Not true the remaining value of the fee is cleared once someone is sold

[didierforever 7,349]

Not true the remaining value of the fee is cleared once someone is sold

i know. and i have included the remaining value if u read carefully, infact i have even explained it

then his balance value (27 million for the left 3 years of his contract would have been charged on us thru FFP)

[haranr 485]

cause thankfully you aren't in charge...

TORRESSS OUTTT

[1chelsea 864]

I really do not bother reading this thread

[YouNameIt 1,511]

I really do not bother reading this thread

Yet you bother enough to post in it..

[Tomo 21,751]

The decline of Fernando began at Liverpool, not at Chelsea...

Cant expect someone who peaked early to have a long career at his level/standards.

Fans just need to accept his decline and move forward with the situation.

Maybe we would if his attitude was a bit better. We are talking about a guy who sulked after we made him a CL winner, walked down the tunnel after getting subbed off and admitted to not caring about results.

If he like Sheva accepted he has been shit for us and got on with it, then most people would lay off him a bit, instead off gobbing off to the media about how he didn't care if we lose.

Look at Ash for example, he hasn't played for weeks yet still celebrated the winner vs Everton like the supporters, the didn't care comments were unforgivable.

[Yeboii 1,844]

I'm not entirely sure after seeing the last few pages of this thread...If you disregard the fact that the fellow who played up front for us against Fulham had the name Torres, almost everyone would say he had a decent performance for a forward, challenging the keeper, getting shots on target and providing an assist. Not comment after comment about how he should take the next flight back to Spain.

Yes because he did decent.. If he does good for Chelsea he will get more positive feedback, this is what I am saying.

[1chelsea 864]

Yet you bother enough to post in it..

i call it ispy

[Eligius 121]

Maybe we would if his attitude was a bit better. We are talking about a guy who sulked after we made him a CL winner, walked down the tunnel after getting subbed off and admitted to not caring about results.

If he like Sheva accepted he has been shit for us and got on with it, then most people would lay off him a bit, instead off gobbing off to the media about how he didn't care if we lose.

Look at Ash for example, he hasn't played for weeks yet still celebrated the winner vs Everton like the supporters, the didn't care comments were unforgivable.

Thats true. His attitude/sulking wasn't good for the team, however, when your in his shoes, I wouldn't expect much from any other player...

Going from alpha male to a benchwarmer isnt the easiest transition to make...

However, after a few seasons, Torres has understood his role and been a model citizen for us.

Just think to yourself. Imagine you are the top striker in the world, where you could do anything and everything to any defender and all of that is gone. Can you imagine the psychological damage Torres must of gotten from this knowing that these days were over. I don't accept his attitude from prior seasons, however, the amount of hate Torres gets now is really useless and futile (similar to the Mata situation).

[Strike 7,489]

after reading the last 3 pages i realised i missed backstreet posting

[remains of the day 564]

Thats true. His attitude/sulking wasn't good for the team, however, when your in his shoes, I wouldn't expect much from any other player...

Going from alpha male to a benchwarmer isnt the easiest transition to make...

However, after a few seasons, Torres has understood his role and been a model citizen for us.

Just think to yourself. Imagine you are the top striker in the world, where you could do anything and everything to any defender and all of that is gone. Can you imagine the psychological damage Torres must of gotten from this knowing that these days were over. I don't accept his attitude from prior seasons, however, the amount of hate Torres gets now is really useless and futile (similar to the Mata situation).

Yeah I guess that’s a fair point but I don’t think anyone is denying that it wasn’t a hard experience for him and the hatred you're talking about comes from a small minority. The point of frustration I think some on here have isn’t so much about Torres himself but more so the preferential treatment that he’s continuously given from the fan base when the way he’s behaved or the way he’s handled his situation really doesn’t merit that. I think that’s the point you're not acknowledging. Its one thing to empathize with Torres (that’s perfectly fine) but it’s an entirely different thing to treat him favourably - especially when his attitude for a large part of his time here, I’m sorry to say, was shittier than shit. That kind of preferential treatment is unfair to some of the other players who themselves have gone through similarly tough experiences while still managing to maintain a far more positive attitude than Torres could ever muster in his first two seasons here; and his poor attitude wasn’t just one isolated incident – this guy would constantly sulk on the bench, didn’t look at all bothered on the pitch, stormed down the tunnel, moaned after we won the champions league - that doesn’t even begin to compare to the indifference he showed after our FA cup win when he sat there flipping through his phone like he couldn’t give a shit while every single one of the players celebrated our FA cup win.

No other player would get away with that let alone still have the backing of the supporters.

At what point do we admit to ourselves that the preferential treatment some on here show to Torres has passed the point of empathy and is now just blatant favouritism?

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

Please I know it's dailymail... But man, it's a too big dream to not hope for.

Inter Milan are plotting a summer move for Fernando Torres and have the funds to pay the £20million fee Chelsea will demand for the striker who holds the British transfer record.

Torres has just over two years left on the £150,000-a-week deal he signed three years ago when he arrived from Liverpool for £50m and has been left in no doubt that Jose Mourinho will prioritise a big-money replacement.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2576006/Inter-Milan-ready-end-Fernando-Torres-Chelsea-nightmare-20m-summer-swoop.html

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Please I know it's dailymail... But man, it's a too big dream to not hope for.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2576006/Inter-Milan-ready-end-Fernando-Torres-Chelsea-nightmare-20m-summer-swoop.html

They've more or less rapped up the deal for Chicharito from utd, and they already have Icardi and Palacio. Why would they still want Torres? It sounds very unlikely.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

They've more or less rapped up the deal for Chicharito from utd, and they already have Icardi and Palacio. Why would they still want Torres? It sounds very unlikely.

It does but... New owner with more money than brain, you never know. Palacio could very well be done for at Inter, too old and it's doubtful if Icardi will ever come real good. If there's anything I've learnt from Serie A it's that the teams can pretty much swap, loan and buy a whole new team every season if they please.