Shane 2,275 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Just to add, he got amazing credit, praise and exposure for scoring that goal against Barca. The fact of the matter is, he was brutual when he came on and lost the ball nearly every time he had it, then stayed up forward. Waterfall and Sir Mikel OBE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 He gets 90% of fans making up excuses for him.He gets undying support due to crap performances. Kalou, Malouda and Bosingwa have got slated for much less.He got a banner at The Bridge before he even kicked a ball, Drogba who has won us numerous trophies single handedly hasn't even got one yet Lampard's goal against Sunderland got groaned at by the MHL people like the goal was disallowed because it looked like from that side Torres scored it off the crossbar.He cost us £100m (contract and transfer), so that is just under £10m a goal, we should be getting better.Torres has suffered from many things at Chelsea but lack of support is not even close to being one of them, OTT support more like.This is exactly it. Torres has been one of the worst players at Chelsea since he's been with us. He's been one of the worst strikers in the Premiership. He has been basically useless and that is not hyperbole. Jose Bosingwa was more integral to Chelsea's success than Fernando Torres has been. Yet, all he seems to get from many supporters is excuses or discussions of how he is actually secretly playing really well. Lampard and Cole both had a poor run of games this season and people said "they're done, get rid of them". Lampard and Cole were great for us this overall year and are both Chelsea legends (Lampard has an argument for being the greatest Chelsea player ever). Mikel had a poor few games. Let's get rid of him! Yet, the same people who talk about getting rid of good or even great players for having a few bad games, want to hold on to Torres and build a squad around him despite a year and a half of uselessness.Kalou got incredible stick on Chelsea forums and he was much better than Torres. (Better scoring rate, better defensively, never complained) Hell, Malouda led us in goals two seasons ago and fans hate him. Fans hate Sturridge and he led us in goals in the Premiership. But Torres? He didn't score for 29 games in a row for crying out loud. That's epically awful. Doesn't matter. People still sing his name. They talk about him as if he's a great player. It's as if there are Torres fans and he matters more to them than Chelsea.The Lampard goal that came off the bar is a perfect example of this. These people want to set-up an entire squad just for the benefit of Torres. We have to build a system around Torres. We have to buy players that will help Torres succeed. Torres Torres Torres. It's bordering on insanity. Las7, nachikethas, Tomo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Lets not even talk about the wages he's getting either. Scandalious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I can see, all of you will praise him , and will be saying he's best striker and etc after he scores lot of goals for us and honestly I hope he will shut up all of you with goal of course....he's been bad for us since joining, but he always show desire to play and help the team....so I give him chance till end of the next season...if he fail then sell him of course.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I would absolutely LOVE for him to shut me up. Until then I hope his fanboys can stfu about us criticizing a never-performing player. TorontoChelsea and calculatingInfinity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 He will start the next match, and bang 2 goals. You read it here first. :>Negredo will start and Torres won't see another minute in this tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Negredo will start and Torres won't see another minute in this tournament.Torres will most likely start. Spain were a much better team when he was on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 We can afford to risk making Torres main forward this season because in the Roman era we have never really had an fully in form forward bar a couple of season's from Drogba (when i mean in form i mean to the extent Henry was season after season for Arsenal or RVN for United).Our major strength in the Roman era has been goals all over the pitch, even our defenders chip in with more than the average.Hopefully next season Hazard will offer 10-15 goals, same with Danny and Mata, likewise Hulk if he joins, hopefully Marin can give us 7-10, Lampard 10, Ramires 10, Luiz, Terry, Cahill and Ivan 3-5 each, if Malouda stays hopefully he can get about 5.If they all chip in with something similar to that amount that is 70-95 goals before Torres is even brought into the equation, so making Torres main forward won't be as risky as say if Arsenal or to a lesser extent United done it because the trick at Chelsea is everyone is a striker (so to speak), so if Torres expects special service to be directed straight to him all the time he will be in for a shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 As someone stated, I'd love for Nando to shut up me up and score for fun next season. It most likely won't happen though. daBlackMamba7, nachikethas and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Torres will most likely start. Spain were a much better team when he was on the pitch.Spain were a much better team with a target, not necessarily with Torres. The look of Del Bosque after Torres missed his second/third chance said it all for me. I will be surprised if Torres starts a match for Spain this tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hysteria 159 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I dont think FT was the main reason for the result today, but face it...he miss 3 clearly chances. In the third one he could pass the ball to Navas and kill the game...in the first one i think, well, Buffon, althouth he could react faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 What still pisses me of about this guy, is that he has the audacity to demand to talk with the club about his future!Who the hell he think he is?We payed so much money for you, on top of that get big wages, and supported your ass for so many months?Torres is living in lala land! nachikethas and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Torres is getting close to 30, he has lost is speed and killer instincts, he makes really poor decisions....Like Henrique and someone said earlier, we should really stop being in denial, you dont grow older and get faster....Like i said already in the Cavani thread, there is no excuse for someone not been able to compete for his spot with the best names in the world, if he comes good(which i highly doubt), then tell me how it is a bad idea to have 2 goal scoring machines....If he doesnt come good then we should have someone that can score, and that will enable Danny get more chances as CF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 What still pisses me of about this guy, is that he has the audacity to demand to talk with the club about his future!Who the hell he think he is?We payed so much money for you, on top of that get big wages, and supported your ass for so many months?Torres is living in lala land!Sometimes i think he is on a secret mission from the scouser to steal our money and screw us over...Fucking ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sometimes i think he is on a secret mission from the scouser to steal our money and screw us over...Fucking ridiculous...Probably revenvge for sending our Agent Cole up to them. capriccioso and Justin_3d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Probably revenvge for sending our Agent Cole up to them.But agents Cole's cover was blown early and was shipped to France for training exercise(later ended up doing a great job for us out there also), wow Cole007 is the ultimate Chelsea agent ...But Nando still hasnt been discovered yet and that say a lot about our security team at home, he also earn almost double as our dear J.Cole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I knew this thread would be hot and going mad at TorresBUT WITH GOOD REASON TO BE!.What pissed me off where the people making up excuses, it reminded me of RAWK, that's the exact thing they do. Torres should've scored, if he of had the quality he would of.You can't just say, oh it was good goal keeping, it was unlucky, fuck off. You make it good goal keeping, if you're not good enough. Torres no excuses, just shocking really. He needs to have an attitude and tell those fans to shut the fuck up, but no he's too scared. capriccioso and Justin_3d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sometimes i think he is on a secret mission from the scouser to steal our money and screw us over...Fucking ridiculous...If that is true it would be quite funny that despite that Liverpool still haven't managed to get above us in the league :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If that is true it would be quite funny that despite that Liverpool still haven't managed to get above us in the league :lol:Hahaha...It wasnt for the want of trying , and we also had the deadliest bully of an agent that was unanimously crowned the King of Wembley that comes like a Knight to save the day....Now he is gone and we dont know what might happen....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 His finishing was really awful yesterday but his movement was good.To be honest, I just want to see him fucking leave. This whole "Fernando Torres" saga has been a complete joke from the minute he signed the contract. It takes up too much of the limelight. Everything is Torres this, Torres that. Even when he goes away from Chelsea and plays for Spain, it's still a lets all laugh at Chelsea story.Spain looked much better after he came on yesterday, and DB was a dumbass for not starting any striker but after those misses I d/n't think Torres will play much. Llorente might get his chance now. Which is a fucking joke because if you want to "test" your strikers one by one you should give them the full 90 mins.He might still come good and become a solid 15 goal a season striker but it's just not worth it. We should just get rid of him and start anew. Please Torres, just go. capriccioso and CHOULO19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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