Henrique 9,133 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 He had a decent game today, but If many said he provided the match winner in last 2 games, we can easily say 2 points was lost, and its his fault.The truth is: still no goals. Only a very optimistic person would see his previous 2 matches as the beginning of his career at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 So he's starting a "miss of the season" competition all by himself.He already has... 3? 4? unbelievable misses. The Utd one, the Blackburn one, and this latest joke. Anyone remember any more?? Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 So he's starting a "miss of the season" competition all by himself.He already has... 3? 4? unbelievable misses. The Utd one, the Blackburn one, and this latest joke. Anyone remember any more??Does it really matter, what's done is done. Try and move forward and keep the faith there is nothing more any of us can do... tmessy and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Does it really matter, what's does is done. Try and move forward and keep the faith there is nothing more any of us can do...just keep pushing through... id rather have him missing than completely sucking like he did last year...keep you head up nando, i have faith...(i mean i just bought an EXPENSIVE shirt the other day, so you better! hahaha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Does it really matter, what's done is done. Try and move forward and keep the faith there is nothing more any of us can do... It was a joke. But I am getting fed up. If you look back at the older posts, I was actually really supportive of him at the start of the season. But the patience is wearing thin and half the time I just want to call him a fucking joke because that's what that miss yesterday was. It cost us 2 points. Yes, the other individuals played poorly as well, but he had the best chance, and he missed it. So the blame lies on him. It's a hard life being a striker.imo it would just be easier not having him in the team any more. It's too much work. Everyone is Torres Torres Torres. And he doesn't do what he's supposed to. If he doesn't come good (and by good I mean score 10+ goals) by the end of the season, sell him and start over. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 It was a joke. But I am getting fed up. If you look back at the older posts, I was actually really supportive of him at the start of the season. But the patience is wearing thin and half the time I just want to call him a fucking joke because that's what that miss yesterday was. It cost us 2 points. Yes, the other individuals played poorly as well, but he had the best chance, and he missed it. So the blame lies on him. It's a hard life being a striker.imo it would just be easier not having him in the team any more. It's too much work. Everyone is Torres Torres Torres. And he doesn't do what he's supposed to. If he doesn't come good (and by good I mean score 10+ goals) by the end of the season, sell him and start over.Or maybe the whole team should be blamed for being one of the most uncreative, boring and dire teams we have seen for years (and certainly the most boring in the league), who can't seem to create even half chance and we have to rely on something very lucky to get a goal. Like Torres having to out of nothing volley the ball, only to hit the post, but lucky enough to smash against Lampard last weeek against Sunderland.I know there is complaints about Torres fanboys and that people praise to him too much for apparent decent performances. But it seems that there are also some people who just want to blame everything on Torres and just want to use him only to vent their anger and never want to give him credit when he gives a good performance. But lets be consistant with your philosophy. So the reason we dropped points againts Spurs is becuase of Ramires, he had 2 great oppertunities to scores and fluffed them. So all the blame lies with him and its his fault we did not win. Or how about Drogba against Fulham, goes one on one with the goalkeeper and gives a pathetic tap on the ball that took no effort for the keeper to pick up, he should get all the blame for us dropping points there as well.Well I hope you will be consitant with that and not just be selective for Torres only. Becuase I think that is what you might be doing. I don't remember you ever blaming it all on Ramires and Drogba in the other matches. Madmax and nofreakingway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Well...if there was any confidence in him today, it was definitely demolished after that miss, What a waste of money chants and Lukaku sub...As I said couple of pages back, I will judge him when January is over...Yeah,wish AVB hadn't subbed him so early, because bar the finishing he was at least involved in the build-up play.....Should've removed Sturridge instead, as he was absent for nearly the entire 2nd half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 It's not his fault. He missed that because our team lacks creativity. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Well I hope you will be consitant with that and not just be selective for Torres only. Becuase I think that is what you might be doing. I don't remember you ever blaming it all on Ramires and Drogba in the other matches.When Drogba and Ramires (who's doesn't have the duty to score) fail to score from 15 games on the trot, then people WIILL give stick. When the team fails to score, everyone will question the main manNow that's totally beside the point....The fact is Torres played really well yesterday, but if that was his best then its a shame. Chances may be limited in a game, but your world class strikers should make the most of the ones they get.Anyways, I just hope he can at least maintain this level of performance and not sink into anonymity again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Or maybe the whole team should be blamed for being one of the most uncreative, boring and dire teams we have seen for years (and certainly the most boring in the league), who can't seem to create even half chance and we have to rely on something very lucky to get a goal. Like Torres having to out of nothing volley the ball, only to hit the post, but lucky enough to smash against Lampard last weeek against Sunderland.I know there is complaints about Torres fanboys and that people praise to him too much for apparent decent performances. But it seems that there are also some people who just want to blame everything on Torres and just want to use him only to vent their anger and never want to give him credit when he gives a good performance. But lets be consistant with your philosophy. So the reason we dropped points againts Spurs is becuase of Ramires, he had 2 great oppertunities to scores and fluffed them. So all the blame lies with him and its his fault we did not win. Or how about Drogba against Fulham, goes one on one with the goalkeeper and gives a pathetic tap on the ball that took no effort for the keeper to pick up, he should get all the blame for us dropping points there as well.Well I hope you will be consitant with that and not just be selective for Torres only. Becuase I think that is what you might be doing. I don't remember you ever blaming it all on Ramires and Drogba in the other matches.The worry is he's getting the chances and he's missing, even you have to be worried by the chance he missed yesterday that sort of thing used to be food and drink for him. I'm seriously worried because i know he's much better then that, have you also noticed that he's taking that extra touch in the box ? When he was confident he was hitting those first time and the keeper had no chance. He has gone 17 games without a goal now and you have to be worried. His chance conversion rate is at 10% and that is low for someone of his pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 When Drogba and Ramires (who's doesn't have the duty to score) fail to score from 15 games on the trot, then people WIILL give stick. When the team fails to score, everyone will question the main manNow that's totally beside the point....The fact is Torres played really well yesterday, but if that was his best then its a shame. Chances may be limited in a game, but your world class strikers should make the most of the ones they get.Anyways, I just hope he can at least maintain this level of performance and not sink into anonymity again...I'm only reacting to this idea that the reason we dropped points was entirely Nando's fault when its obvious that there is much more glaring faults that do not focus on one player. But some people are being ignorant (CHOUL019) and thinkthat I'm somehow ignoring Torres mistakes or trying deny it. Of course he sould have scored that chances and needs to be much better infornt of goal. I'm just staggered that a couple of people are suggesting that Torres should be gven all the blame for missing that chance. Even tough time and time again its our creativity that should be blamed. We might as well as blame a player every time we drop points for missing. Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I'm only reacting to this idea that the reason we dropped points was entirely Nando's fault when its obvious that there is much more glaring faults that do not focus on one player. But some people are being ignorant (CHOUL019) and thinkthat I'm somehow ignoring Torres mistakes or trying deny it. Of course he sould have scored that chances and needs to be much better infornt of goal. I'm just staggered that a couple of people are suggesting that Torres should be gven all the blame for missing that chance. Even tough time and time again its our creativity that should be blamed. We might as well as blame a player every time we drop points for missing.Yes, it is pointless picking out one player and lay the blame on him alone for yesterdays no-show. Mata and Malouda were also guilty of poor finishing, while Meireles and Sturridge hardly had any impact in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Obviously it isn't solely Fernando's fault for the result yesterday, nobody putting forward a logical argument could claim it was. However, I don't know about the rest of you, but usually when your club spends 50 million pounds (a British transfer record no less) on a player, you would expect him to have a reasonably positive effect against teams like Norwich. These days it is nothing short of depressing to watch Torres play, I was honestly a big fan of him in his pomp, he was wonderful to watch, just like so many non Arsenal fans enjoyed watching Henry, a lot of people enjoyed watching Torres. These days it is exactly the opposite, you are so desperately willing him to do well but it seems to inevitably fall flat. I accept that the current squad and system maybe aren't ideal to what he needs. All the same though, that still justify such a poor performance yesterday or such glaring misses as the one yesterday. At a club, and in a system, where for the best part of 7 years we have had the finest all round lone striker in the world I suppose my expectations have become a bit too lofty, all the same when the replacement for the great man is 50 million world cup and euro 2008 winner Fernando Torres, I do hope you can forgive me for my disappointment at his crushingly dispirited displays. We are now left with a 27(28?) year old striker who has lost his main asset (pace), who has virtually no confidence whatsoever and the lingering memory of one of the greatest strikers of his generation casting a shadow over every striker who wears the Chelsea jersey. A few years ago, had you asked me, who in my wildest most unrealistic dreams would I like to replace Drogba with (if necessary) and my answer would have taken a split second, I would have picked Fernando Torres. I know now that maybe its better if dreams stay just that, because in reality it has been a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 My patience with Torres is officially gone! Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I don't actually think he's lost his pace, its just his confidence. He should be hitting the ball first time more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I don't actually think he's lost his pace, its just his confidence. He should be hitting the ball first time more often.Mate he has definitely lost his pace. Check out Torres circa 2006-2008 and then watch a game with current day Torres, the difference is staggering. Its isn't unexpected though, given the amount of problems he has had with injuries, in particular his knees, it has destroyed that extra yard of killer pace he had. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted January 22, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2012 The worst part of his play is his touch on the ball, especially the first touch. I remember two situations, yesterday, where he could have be on a one-on-one with the goalkeeper if he had controled the ball correctly. Plus he loses the ball many times due to the fact he pushes it too far. Bosnian Blue, Henrique, Amblève. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Watching City. Aguero is what Torres should of been for us. I try not to get pissed off when I see the brilliant Silva and Aguero destroying all before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 He must be sold in the summer if there is no improvement from now until the end of the season, for the benefit of the team, Torres' & the fans sanity. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The miss saturday topped it off for me. i really want him to suceed but i just dont see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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