Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And about the JT captaincy issue, I believe he meant that Terry will 'normally' be captain but can't because obviously he's out injured.Those are my interpretations though. It could be fun having a cryptic manager...Yeah. Could mean a lot of different things. It would be unwise of him to make the same mistakes as AVB.I don't how he'll have the motivation and the attitude, knowing that he'll be here till the summer.Precisely my concern. He'll probably try to screw us up. Imagine him selling Mata off! That said, I'm sure if something were to go terribly wrong, Roman wouldn't be afraid to sack him as well. If Moratti can sack 2 managers and have 3 managers in one season alone, then I'm sure Roman would do it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I don't how he'll have the motivation and the attitude, knowing that he'll be here till the summer.Well he's going to need a job, so he needs to impress potential employers. He's also got a lot to prove after his experience at Inter. Not sure if he could be more motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah. Could mean a lot of different things. It would be unwise of him to make the same mistakes as AVB.It was unwise to make him a Chelsea caretaker at first place.I am sorry that I am pointing out the obvious over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 As long as Benitez is our manager, I'll back him BUT only for the sake of the team. Nothing more. They don't deserve to be the victims of the matters happening off the pitch and right now, they need our support to help them get through this tough period and start winning again. Spending time during the matches booing the manager won't help the cause as the negative vibe will eventually transmit on to the players. We do not want to be like the Blackburn fans last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Precisely my concern. He'll probably try to screw us up. Imagine him selling Mata off!That said, I'm sure if something were to go terribly wrong, Roman wouldn't be afraid to sack him as well. If Moratti can sack 2 managers and have 3 managers in one season alone, then I'm sure Roman would do it as well.This should be the last of your concerns. He has been out of a job for 2 years because he hasn't been able to get a top job. He will try everything possible to do well here, even if he has to leave in May - at least someone else will want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It was unwise to make him a Chelsea caretaker at first place.I am sorry that I am pointing out the obvious over and over.The other 'obvious' thing is that he is the Chelsea manager and that isn't going to change, so why not start backing him rather than telling him to fuck off and labelling him a cunt.It might make you feel better, but it doesn't help this club in any way whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 As long as Benitez is our manager, I'll back him BUT only for the sake of the team. Nothing more. They don't deserve to be the victims of the matters happening off the pitch and right now, they need our support to help them get through this tough period and start winning again. Spending time during the matches booing the manager won't help the cause as the negative vibe will eventually transmit on to the players. We do not want to be like the Blackburn fans last season.Isn't that why we're all supporters in the first place? For the sake of the team. Why is it any different with Rafa? It's not like he has a personal agenda to sabotage this club. He has the same objectives as the fans and that's winning trophies. People should stop being bitter because of his past connections with Liverpool. He's a professional simply doing his day job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Precisely my concern. He'll probably try to screw us up. Imagine him selling Mata off!\don't think the board will allow him to take such drastic decisions givne Mata is one of the best players in our squad right now.I don't how he'll have the motivation and the attitude, knowing that he'll be here till the summer.the only motivation i can think he would have to ensure results is that ... he would atleast want to retain this job until the end of the season. Every manager who steps in knows pretty well that the Owner has no soft corners for any manager whatsoever if he doesn't perform/live up to his expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The other 'obvious' thing is that he is the Chelsea manager and that isn't going to change, so why not start backing him rather than telling him to fuck off and labelling him a cunt.It might make you feel better, but it doesn't help this club in any way whatsoever.Well some of us just have dignity and can't support a man who insulted us over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Isn't that why we're all supporters in the first place? For the sake of the team. Why is it any different with Rafa? It's not like he has a personal agenda to sabotage this club. He has the same objectives as the fans and that's winning trophies. People should stop being bitter because of his past connections with Liverpool. He's a professional simply doing his day job.Exactly and should he do well here it looks good on him etc.He isnt gana sabotage his chances of getting a job elsewhere due to his feeling on us years ago.He was a rival manager!He was hardly going to be complimenting of us and the fans etc.Anyway we seemed to have gone up market since then and give away scarfs instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I don't how he'll have the motivation and the attitude, knowing that he'll be here till the summer.He will have every reason to motivate himself.After the Inter debacle his stock is low, if he comes here and shows the world that he is still around, say atleast gets us 3rd and a couple of cups, then his stock is back on the rise, he will suddenly be a viable option for big clubs with managerial vacancy's.Rafa knows he is very unlikely to be here beyond the summer, but he needs to make a success of this job to save his career at the top end of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Heard he spouted shite in the Press Conference, Not suprised.Hope we don't bring back Drogba, he's far too good to play for that cunt. We're going to be ripped to shreds by City at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Well some of us just have dignity and can't support a man who insulted us over the years.He's the Chelsea manager now. It's going to be that way for the next 6 months in all likelihood. Maybe you should take your dignity and go on a sabbatical for a few months like Guardiola did.The guy said some things to give his own fans a hard-on and they've come back to bite him on the arse. You might have been offended by them but we've got to support him now because he's running our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Well some of us just have dignity and can't support a man who insulted us over the years.dignity? lmao get over it mate. At the end of the day, Liverpool was cutting his checks and now it's Chelsea. His comments added to the rivalry and I have no problem with it. If he said this yesterday after getting the job then I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 We're going to be ripped to shreds by City at the weekend.That's the spirit. :blue scalf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I was obviously only joking about the comment made about him selling Mata off! After all, our managers don't have much say in the transfers...Isn't that why we're all supporters in the first place? For the sake of the team. Why is it any different with Rafa? It's not like he has a personal agenda to sabotage this club. He has the same objectives as the fans and that's winning trophies. People should stop being bitter because of his past connections with Liverpool. He's a professional simply doing his day job.RB may be a professional but he's a human after all and knowing that he won't be here for more than 6-7 months, what motivation would he have? If he wants to rebuild his reputation and/or perhaps try to land the job on a permanent basis, then good. If not, then I'm not sure how much are we going to get from this short term appointment. Additionally, his past record of spending more time dealing with matters off the pitch and not on it, worries me. His team's results and performances suffered as a result of that. It's his past failings that makes me really skeptical about him and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Hence as I said before, can only hope and pray he has learned from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Fat spanish waiter, you're just a fat spanish waiter.Welcome to the club fat man. :blue scalf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 He's the Chelsea manager now. It's going to be that way for the next 6 months in all likelihood. Maybe you should take your dignity and go on a sabbatical for a few months like Guardiola did.The guy said some things to give his own fans a hard-on and they've come back to bite him on the arse. You might have been offended by them but we've got to support him now because he's running our club.Im not pissed off with Benitez ...Im pissed off with Roman and the bunch of planks that call themselves a Board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,459 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah. Could mean a lot of different things. It would be unwise of him to make the same mistakes as AVB.Precisely my concern. He'll probably try to screw us up. Imagine him selling Mata off!That said, I'm sure if something were to go terribly wrong, Roman wouldn't be afraid to sack him as well. If Moratti can sack 2 managers and have 3 managers in one season alone, then I'm sure Roman would do it as well.He's only a coach, and so won't be involved in transfers...But yeah, I don't see how he could be motivated enough..Yes its a chance for him to advertise himself as a top manager, but is that reason enough? And more importantly how will the players feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 RB may be a professional but he's a human after all and knowing that he won't be here for more than 6-7 months, what motivation would he have? If he wants to rebuild his reputation and/or perhaps try to land the job on a permanent basis, then good. If not, then I'm not sure how much are we going to get from this short term appointment. Additionally, his past record of spending more time dealing with matters off the pitch and not on it, worries me. His team's results and performances suffered as a result of that. It's his past failings that makes me really skeptical about him and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Hence as I said before, can only hope and pray he has learned from his mistakes.Please tell me one good reason why he wouldn't want to build his reputation and make this a full time job? Not every club is run like Liverpool. He understands the magnitude of this squad and he wants to win trophies. Every manager has it's flaws and it's the fan's duty to judge him based on his results. A lot of people are writing him off already simply because he's not a likable figure. That's what bothers me the most. If he is unable to turn this around and continues to struggle then we have every right to criticize but as of now I think it's in the clubs best interest if we all stfu and support the team on Sunday instead of berating our manager because he made past comments about our flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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