The Benitez Thread

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

WHS is reliable?

The amount of news I've brought to this forum before it has broken in the media shows my reliability.

[Special Juan 28,156]

Judging by this image the atmosphere on Saturday is going to be as toxic as ever.

Yay.

Oh dear.

[xPetrCechx 13,577]

The amount of news I've brought to this forum before it has broken in the media shows my reliability.

You Were Right All the times?

[Backstreet09 499]

Judging by this image the atmosphere on Saturday is going to be as toxic as ever.

Yay.

Rafa looks kinda cute in these photos

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

You Were Right All the times?

I was wrong with the severity of Hilario's injury when I announced he was rushed away in an ambulance

And the Kalou being exiled story was from a different source

The amount of times I've been right largely outweighs the wrong.

I'm certain many on the forum will vouch for that.

[xPetrCechx 13,577]

I was wrong with the severity of Hilario's injury when I announced he was rushed away in an ambulance

And the Kalou being exiled story was from a different source

The amount of times I've been right largely outweighs the wrong.

I'm certain many on the forum will vouch for that.

Yeah I remember some...

But it's too good to be true....

I would believe if you said someone else and not Jose...

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

Yeah I remember some...

But it's too good to be true....

I would believe if you said someone else and not Jose...

I'm more certain about this than any of my other stories.

As I previously said the person that's told my mate is with Roman Abramovich on a daily basis.

[Fulham Broadway 17,338]

The reason Fatty said he is going nowhere so emphatically is because he is waiting for the contract to be terminated by Abramovich so he will get his pay off. That will be on top of the £86m the club has paid to terminate the other managers contracts.

The bloke has no self respect.

[Jype 6,398]

I'm more certain about this than any of my other stories.

As I previously said the person that's told my mate is with Roman Abramovich on a daily basis.

How much money have you bet on this yourself? If you're so certain, it should be an easy way to double your money with 5/4 odds.

[English Freak 456]

The reason Fatty said he is going nowhere so emphatically is because he is waiting for the contract to be terminated by Abramovich so he will get his pay off. That will be on top of the £86m the club has paid to terminate the other managers contracts.

The bloke has no self respect.

The Fat cunt doesn't deserve a pay-off.

My concern is that if someone like Benitez can come to Chelsea, manage our club for a few months and then get a nice pay-off...it sends the wrong message to other average managers.

Bet the likes of Pellegrini would love to manage Chelsea...just stay in London for 6 months, watch the team hit a rough patch..and then enjoy a nice payoff whilst you look for your next job back in Spain..

[Special Juan 28,156]

That's why Chelsea will always be a big attraction, fail and you will get a shit load of coin.

As the Meerkat says "Simples"

[MHL 47 378]

Judging by this image the atmosphere on Saturday is going to be as toxic as ever.

Yay.

Did you honestly expect it to get better after his 'speech' on Wednesday evening?

There was only one way it was going to go, that way was never going to be for the better and I suspect he knew it.

More and more is coming out now, rumours abound that TFSW got word of a meeting between the Owner and a prospective new manager, his ego couldn't take it so he's let rip. His apologists in the media i.e. Ballegue, Ian Herbert are now making up stories of why he's right or why he feels he had to do it and how it wasn't a pop at the owner or board as well as the fans (oh yes it was, clear as day), load of old b******s really, trying to get him out of a crap situation in order for him to still be a realistic target for other sides.

So it's OK for him to have a pop at us, and let's be frank he did so years ago, come in and expect us to be thankful he's come here and forget what was said (no apologies or statement of even slight regret from him), him get it back, have another major pop blaming us for the teams and his poor performance managing the team and us as supporters of the club to be OK with that - righto. Tw**ts like him should remember we're the only ones (except Roman, TV and the sponsers) putting money into a club, him and the staff just take out, they're servants of the club. Act a little like that and you'd get a bit of grace, act like a c*** and you'll get treated like one.

[Stingray 9,441]

Just a thought ....

What if Roman and the board - after the RDM debacle and all the manager turmoil before him - has finally decided to stop sacking managers every couple of months, think it is due time to to build a better reputation, is also stubborn on this fact as well and that is why we are now stuck with Rafa till the end of the season.

Just a thought ....

[Manuf 1,448]

I was wrong with the severity of Hilario's injury when I announced he was rushed away in an ambulance

And the Kalou being exiled story was from a different source

The amount of times I've been right largely outweighs the wrong.

I'm certain many on the forum will vouch for that.

WHS your first Chelsea news source

[The only place to be 11,313]

Did you honestly expect it to get better after his 'speech' on Wednesday evening?

There was only one way it was going to go, that way was never going to be for the better and I suspect he knew it.

More and more is coming out now, rumours abound that TFSW got word of a meeting between the Owner and a prospective new manager, his ego couldn't take it so he's let rip. His apologists in the media i.e. Ballegue, Ian Herbert are now making up stories of why he's right or why he feels he had to do it and how it wasn't a pop at the owner or board as well as the fans (oh yes it was, clear as day), load of old b******s really, trying to get him out of a crap situation in order for him to still be a realistic target for other sides.

So it's OK for him to have a pop at us, and let's be frank he did so years ago, come in and expect us to be thankful he's come here and forget what was said (no apologies or statement of even slight regret from him), him get it back, have another major pop blaming us for the teams and his poor performance managing the team and us as supporters of the club to be OK with that - righto. Tw**ts like him should remember we're the only ones (except Roman, TV and the sponsers) putting money into a club, him and the staff just take out, they're servants of the club. Act a little like that and you'd get a bit of grace, act like a c*** and you'll get treated like one.

What I took from his speech was that he was going. That's what I wanted to hear.

He also said fans had an agenda and from what happened before his first game in charge, that seems to have some truth to it.

If I'm being honest I think he's being scapegoated for a lot of fans frustrations at things happening at the club. I think some people in the ground are much more comfortable booing the guy in the dugout rather than criticising the guy in the box.

Personally, the only way I see us coming out of this with any good is by supporting the 11 players on the pitch for the whole 90 minutes of every game we have left.

I keep on coming back to attitude. You can't control everything that happens to you, but you can control how you respond to it. If people want to spend £60 to abuse a bloke who is on his way out of the door then they can, but it's going to create a toxic atmosphere for the players.

[MHL 47 378]

Just a thought ....

What if Roman and the board - after the RDM debacle and all the manager turmoil before him - has finally decided to stop sacking managers every couple of months, think it is due time to to build a better reputation, is also stubborn on this fact as well and that is why we are now stuck with Rafa till the end of the season.

Just a thought ....

That would be fine, dandy and admirable if that was the case, if you've changed your policy you have to be doubly sure you have chosen the right person to do it with and not backed the wrong horse.

[MHL 47 378]

What I took from his speech was that he was going. That's what I wanted to hear.

He also said fans had an agenda and from what happened before his first game in charge, that seems to have some truth to it.

If I'm being honest I think he's being scapegoated for a lot of fans frustrations at things happening at the club. I think some people in the ground are much more comfortable booing the guy in the dugout rather than criticising the guy in the box.

Personally, the only way I see us coming out of this with any good is by supporting the 11 players on the pitch for the whole 90 minutes of every game we have left.

I keep on coming back to attitude. You can't control everything that happens to you, but you can control how you respond to it. If people want to spend £60 to abuse a bloke who is on his way out of the door then they can, but it's going to create a toxic atmosphere for the players.

Fans with an agenda - Yep, he was correct on that one, what'd he expect? You want to build bridges, you'd better start building the foundations especially as it was you who demolished them in the first place. That wasn't his approach, he was arrogant, thought we'd accept the standard line. He got it wrong with his approach, however I do agree there'd be some who it wouldn't matter to and they'd continue regardless. However if he'd approached it differently it may have marginalised the issue.

Scapegoated - Can't agree there, he's made his bed and then made it worse again. If people want to have a go a Roman, get to it. Overall we know who we're best off with if it was a choice.

Too much is made of the 'abuse' he receives, you go to games, you'll know the 'we don't care about Rafa' song is sung two or three times a game generally and not by the majority. It's he who's upped the ante, look he's done it for a reason and that's to try to take the responsibility away from himself. If there was a reason not to give him grief it would be that, reverse the psychology.

Like I said before, given the liklihood that the players are beginning to dislike him, they'll take little notice anyway.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Fans with an agenda - Yep, he was correct on that one, what'd he expect? You want to build bridges, you'd better start building the foundations especially as it was you who demolished them in the first place. That wasn't his approach, he was arrogant, thought we'd accept the standard line. He got it wrong with his approach, however I do agree there'd be some who it wouldn't matter to and they'd continue regardless. However if he'd approached it differently it may have marginalised the issue.

Scapegoated - Can't agree there, he's made his bed and then made it worse again. If people want to have a go a Roman, get to it. Overall we know who we're best off with if it was a choice.

Too much is made of the 'abuse' he receives, you go to games, you'll know the 'we don't care about Rafa' song is sung two or three times a game generally and not by the majority. It's he who's upped the ante, look he's done it for a reason and that's to try to take the responsibility away from himself. If there was a reason not to give him grief it would be that, reverse the psychology.

Like I said before, given the liklihood that the players are beginning to dislike him, they'll take little notice anyway.

I agree that he didn't approach it properly. This all came to a head when he should have addressed the issues honestly from day one. Too many times he simply gave soundbites and weaselled his way out of giving honest answers, and then explodes in a press conference. I still think he's been getting all the fans' frustrations for a multitude of problems, much like Emenalo, Gourlay and to a lesser extent Buck.

The song (which is shit as I've said many times before, doesn't make sense and doesn't actually feel good to sing) crops up far more away from home than at home. Then there's the booing (before his first game it was moronic in my opinion) and some of the banners.

People like to pretend they have an impact on the players when they chant and make these banners, otherwise why would they do it? To then deny any impact when it suits you is a little disingenuous isn't it? We hold the scousers to the same logic don't we? They praise the almighty power of the Kop when it suits them then blame the team, coach, board...anyone when things go wrong. I'd rather we didn't go down the same route.

[Stingray 9,441]

That would be fine, dandy and admirable if that was the case, if you've changed your policy you have to be doubly sure you have chosen the right person to do it with and not backed the wrong horse.

In an ideal world, yes. There you would have both the time to choose the right person and that person would be available and willing.

In reality it was a bit different.

However, now, he has made the decision for Rafa and apparently doesn't want to sack another manager. Its the only reason I can think of why Rafa has survived his little speech. We will have to sit it out anyway.

If he were to sack him, that would be a total defeat of Romans strategy. He would sustain extra reputation damage and an extra cost. Furthermore, the one he wants probably isn't available now, so strategy-wise he is just sticking with Rafa and sitting it out.

What are the alternatives (and I don't mean from YOUR perspective but from the boards/Romans).

Ps: don't get me wrong. I wanted Rafa out for a loooooooong while now.

[Backstreet09 499]

Just a thought ....

What if Roman and the board - after the RDM debacle and all the manager turmoil before him - has finally decided to stop sacking managers every couple of months, think it is due time to to build a better reputation, is also stubborn on this fact as well and that is why we are now stuck with Rafa till the end of the season.

Just a thought ....

Not a great thought . I like manager sacking xD