Closed FC Nordsjaelland 0-4 Chelsea

[dejavuetall 1]

Since mikel did nt stat, we knw his worth. Am kinda excited about our attacking third. Hazard,oscar and mata are gonna rape alot of epl team. Quite excited playn city and manure.

[The Rising Sun 711]

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You have done this in other Matchday threads as well. Nothing wrong in trying to give Chelsea fans links to their club goals, but you need to contribute as a member, as THIS FORUM IS NOT A VESSEL FOR YOUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

[sodasys 40]

Chelsea third goal last night was made by MAZACAR .1)Oscar pass to Mata. 2)Mata pass to Hazard. 3)Hazard pass to Oscar. 4)Oscar pass to Mata. Mata to Score..

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I thought Moses was terrible and for the most part everyone played quite poorly outside of Ramires and Oscar, with Cech doing what he needed to do, and Hazard being quality when he came on. Moses just looked uncomfortable out there, more so than anything else. His first touch nearly every time was appalling, which makes me think it was more to do with nerves.

Mata seems to have been voted man of the match again, but I thought he played quite average. I'll stop complaining about it since I did last game too, and I'll probably be called a Mata hater or something, despite him probably being my favorite player now. Seems as if you put up stats you're automatically given the MOTM on here. I thought Oscar was the one that completely dominated the middle today, and his touch, particularly on the run was sublime.

I seriously agree with you. Oscar was the one that controlled the game and linked up with the players more.

I know mata scored two goals but oscar could have easily had a goal(if the ref let play go on) and 2 assists(if torres could finish a one on one in his life). And he had serious work rate through out the match, fantastic player.

[ymalleb 14]

yet again, i vote Oscar as the MOTM for the same reason. His stamina, vision & passing is second to none for me, hardly put his foot wrong despite he rather new to UCL football as well. Quite disappointed with Moses, i thought he going to settle very well less that i know the nerves got him first.

Ramires was immense in the midfield, why RDM did not use him at the middle of the park against Atletico still put me into a doubt. Finally Torres could've done better with his finish, overall i give him credit to him for giving a decent performance, not he missed from 3 yards.

[andy1234562 2]

To be honest, I was really impressed by Torres. He was making intelligent runs and showed a great work rate (good tackle for first goal)...a little more luck and Torres could have got a brace/hat-trick.

Lampard looked slick playing higher up; many good passes and intelligent runs.

Mata was superb and the tika-taka passing in the opposition's penalty box (kinda like enemy no#1 Barca) was really smooth and nice.

RDM has really improved our tactics !!11

[themightyblue 443]

Have some people forgotten that we probably could have been comfortable had we taken our chances in the first half. Not saying that we played well, but we were hardly lucky. Let them off quite a bit

[Ollie 4,400]

It wasn't great but we won and Robbie once again learnt a lot about the players. Lampard slows the game down so now after seeing the last 2 games, it's surely confirmed to everyone that Ramires and Mikel are the 2 holding midfielders. 4-0 was extremely harsh, i enjoyed watching them play although we scored some nice goals, they were taking huge risks and that cost them the game. our class shone through in the end but it wasn't great. The Juve/Shakhtar result was a great result though, now it's in our hands to top the group. Juve could struggle getting out of the group now. Long way to go.

On a side note, that Okora at the back for the danes is only 21, he's absolutely fantastic. Gotta pick him up before others do. He'll be at a big club soon, no doubt.

I voted Mata man of the match because he got 2 goals, the first very important and he took them so well. He's back to his best for sure, he looked comfortable on the ball yesterday too and made it look easy. Nobody was phenomenal.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Somebody got a Highlights video with english commentary?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Somebody got a Highlights video with english commentary?

http://www.101greatg...ger-highlights/

RDM after the match:

"We expected a difficult game and that's exactly how it turned out. We were a bit slow out of the blocks, even if we had chances to score. We scored one and had a couple of other chances.

"They had nothing to lose. When the scoreline's 1-0, it's always dangerous. They committed players forward, and that's how football is.

"So the second goal was important for us, to settle us down. Once we scored it, we knew we'd win the game.

"But it's difficult to win away in the Champions League. We hadn't done it too often recently so we're pleased.

"We got a clean sheet, another one, and scored four goals. Who knows, hopefully some more will come away from home now."

"That result in Turin just shows exactly what I thought about the group - it's difficult.

"The Ukrainian champions are a very good team, and it's going to be hard for us to qualify. For us it was important to win.

"That was the most important aspect. The scoreline shows four goals scored and none conceded, so that's pleasing. Away from home, it's not easy in this competition.

"Look at what happened with Bayern Munich, who lost in Belarus. There are no pushovers in the Champions League any more."

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

http://www.101greatg...ger-highlights/

RDM after the match:

Cheers mate

[The Rising Sun 711]

There are moments when you realise that a player doesnt really fit in anymore, and no one knew when that moment will come with Lampard.

I think that moment has finally happened. He will always be a legend, but with the team style and players we have now, he is no more a value addition as a starter.

[Spike 12,049]

I fell asleep during half time so I will not vote for a MOTM.

[Peppen 934]

In the train going back rom the game. So glad I got to see the Blues, and what a result. Some great goals, and definitely A LOT to work on. Here are my thoughts of the game, I think I'll rewatch it later just to get it all soaked in.

Our defense was quite shaky at times, especially in the first half. Credit to Nordsjælland, they played their game and had a couple of good chances, but we have amazing Pete guarding our goal. It got better in the second half, but still something to look out for.

The overall performance of the first half was not good enough. I thought it was amazing to see how many Chelsea fans actually made it to the game, and we outnumbered the FCN supporters by far. I talked to an English chap during the game, and we both thought that we were on our heels. He was bbviously a little liquidized, one might say, but cool to meet a domestic Chelsea supporter.

Torres. He is a striker. A striker scores goals. I will not go into too much details, but he didn't score. He contributed to the team, but that's the least you can expect. Not good enough.

Referee. Holy.... He was bloody poor. 4 goals annulled due to freekicks or offsides. Just.... We're not MANU or Barcelona in any way, let's put it like that shall we?

Good result, half decent performance, awesome to be there. Mata is sick, walking in the streets amongst loads of Chelsea fans (dunno the exact number, somewhere between 500-1000?) and cheering the Blues to victory.

TOP OF THE LEAGUE HAVING A LAUGH. 4-0. I love you, Chelsea!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

There are moments when you realise that a player doesnt really fit in anymore, and no one knew when that moment will come with Lampard.

I think that moment has finally happened. He will always be a legend, but with the team style and players we have now, he is no more a value addition as a starter.

This is what's called confirmation bias. Lampard was probably our best player in the first half. Not only was his assist brilliant, but he frequently opened up play with excellent passing (including a couple of incredible passes to Moses on the left). He wasn't as instrumental to the team in the second half, but overall, he ran more than any other Chelsea player, passed well, timed his runs well, interplayed well with the attackers, drew a couple of fouls, and was solid defensively. The "moving the ball too slowly" stuff was just nonsense as well today. He moved the ball well all game. The issue with our ball movement came from not having a deep midfielder who was able to link up the play and then from Moses making a lot of poor decisions in attack The desire to see Lampard have bad games has reached an insane level. I swear, there are only like 10-15 people on here who actually seem to watch the games.

[The Rising Sun 711]

This is what's called confirmation bias. Lampard was probably our best player in the first half. Not only was his assist brilliant, but he frequently opened up play with excellent passing (including a couple of incredible passes to Moses on the left). He wasn't as instrumental to the team in the second half, but overall, he ran more than any other Chelsea player, passed well, timed his runs well, interplayed well with the attackers, drew a couple of fouls, and was solid defensively. The "moving the ball too slowly" stuff was just nonsense as well today. He moved the ball well all game. The issue with our ball movement came from not having a deep midfielder who was able to link up the play and then from Moses making a lot of poor decisions in attack The desire to see Lampard have bad games has reached an insane level. I swear, there are only like 10-15 people on here who actually seem to watch the games.

Let me repeat what i said, I dont think Lampard is bad. He is still really good.

I personally feel he doesnt fit into our system in such a way that he can command a starting spot anymore, He probably even realises that. Its only natural at an age of 34 that things always dont stay the same, and new players come in and offer something completely different.

No bias against him or wanting him to be bad.

I just said he is not a confirmed starter anymore and he has also accepted this before the season began that he doesnt expect to be starting every game. This has also allowed our style to change a bit since other players have showcased different skills and gameplay since they have got the chance , the same as with Drogba leaving and now we dont just kick the ball up and wait for drogba to hold it up and set up an attack. Now we play more on the ground and fast one touch football.

Every club goes through periods of change, no one is slating lampard. I just think it is a good change and is affecting our club positively.

And lastly, i dont think he has the legs anymore, and im not implying that he slows down play, but 'off the ball' he is not able to do enough.

there is nothing negative i noticed in yesterdays gane , except this.

Then again thats my opinion, and i want him to keep playing for us, but i think it is time he took up the Scholes Giggs Role in our team.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Let me repeat what i said, I dont think Lampard is bad. He is still really good.

I personally feel he doesnt fit into our system in such a way that he can command a starting spot anymore, He probably even realises that. Its only natural at an age of 34 that things always dont stay the same, and new players come in and offer something completely different.

No bias against him or wanting him to be bad.

I just said he is not a confirmed starter anymore and he has also accepted this before the season began that he doesnt expect to be starting every game. This has also allowed our style to change a bit since other players have showcased different skills and gameplay since they have got the chance , the same as with Drogba leaving and now we dont just kick the ball up and wait for drogba to hold it up and set up an attack. Now we play more on the ground and fast one touch football.

I agree that he doesn't deserve an automatic starting spot anymore, but I don't think many people do. As far as one-touch football, Lampard can play that just fine (his pass to Mata was a gorgeous example of that as was his pass to Ramires against Barca) but I don't think you can have long-term success playing just that type of football in England anyway. It's just too easy to defend. That has actually been our biggest problem this season-the reliance on individual moments of brilliance for our goals rather than building up play into an attack. You can pass the ball around all you want, but you have to be able to break down the defence. You need to be able to switch the attack over, to have an aerial game, to be versatile to win. As far as Lampard not having any legs. He covered more distance than any other Chelsea player against Juventus and again last night. He doesn't have great speed, but the deep-lying midfielder doesn't really need to be fast. And yes, there are definitely people on here who are seriously slating Lampard. In fact, I'd say after Mikel, he's probably the most hated player on here. I'm not saying he should be starting every game, he definitely shouldn't be and I trust RDM to keep using our squad well, but if people can't acknowledge when he plays well, something is wrong.

[Thor 2,711]

I agree that he doesn't deserve an automatic starting spot anymore, but I don't think many people do. As far as one-touch football, Lampard can play that just fine (his pass to Mata was a gorgeous example of that as was his pass to Ramires against Barca) but I don't think you can have long-term success playing just that type of football in England anyway. It's just too easy to defend. That has actually been our biggest problem this season-the reliance on individual moments of brilliance for our goals rather than building up play into an attack. You can pass the ball around all you want, but you have to be able to break down the defence. You need to be able to switch the attack over, to have an aerial game, to be versatile to win. As far as Lampard not having any legs. He covered more distance than any other Chelsea player against Juventus and again last night. He doesn't have great speed, but the deep-lying midfielder doesn't really need to be fast. And yes, there are definitely people on here who are seriously slating Lampard. In fact, I'd say after Mikel, he's probably the most hated player on here. I'm not saying he should be starting every game, he definitely shouldn't be and I trust RDM to keep using our squad well, but if people can't acknowledge when he plays well, something is wrong.

For a 'deep-lying midfielder' as you are saying about Lampard, he sure was playing far too high and leaving a huge hole for the opposition to attack. Go back and watch the match, and you'll see how hard Ramires had to work to get back on a few of those opposition transitions and counter attacks. All the while Lampard is straggling back at a mediocre pace. If he is going to play that role he should sit a little deeper like Mikel does. Ramires is the one we benefit from bursting forward.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

For a 'deep-lying midfielder' as you are saying about Lampard, he sure was playing far too high and leaving a huge hole for the opposition to attack. Go back and watch the match, and you'll see how hard Ramires had to work to get back on a few of those opposition transitions and counter attacks. All the while Lampard is straggling back at a mediocre pace. If he is going to play that role he should sit a little deeper like Mikel does. Ramires is the one we benefit from bursting forward.

I watched the match and broke down every one of the opposition attacks. None of them were the fault of Lampard playing too far upfield and there is no way in hell he should be playing in Mikel's spot. Of the two midfielders, Ramires is the more defensive in the pivot and rightly played a deeper role (And HE, not Lampard, made two awful defensive mistakes which led to chances). As far as us benefiting more from Ramires attacks, I am very dubious about that. Ramires is definitely better defensively than Lampard but he is vastly inferior offensively.He is a much poorer passer, has worse vision, doesn't create opportunities, and is a worse finisher. It's not even remotely close. (And the statistics bear this out. Lampard was one of the most creative midfielders in the premier league last season and Ramires was one of the least). He does create space, but only if we have natural width and in this current set-up, Ramires' counter-attack offensive game is mostly wasted. RDM has been using Ramires in the centre to provide defensive solidity and speed in the middle of the park and it's worked. Ramires is not in there for his offensive game which is very limited.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I watched the match and broke down every one of the opposition attacks. None of them were the fault of Lampard playing too far upfield and there is no way in hell he should be playing in Mikel's spot. Of the two midfielders, Ramires is the more defensive in the pivot and rightly played a deeper role (And HE, not Lampard, made two awful defensive mistakes which led to chances). As far as us benefiting more from Ramires attacks, I am very dubious about that. Ramires is definitely better defensively than Lampard but he is vastly inferior offensively.He is a much poorer passer, has worse vision, doesn't create opportunities, and is a worse finisher. It's not even remotely close. (And the statistics bear this out. Lampard was one of the most creative midfielders in the premier league last season and Ramires was one of the least). He does create space, but only if we have natural width and in this current set-up, Ramires' counter-attack offensive game is mostly wasted. RDM has been using Ramires in the centre to provide defensive solidity and speed in the middle of the park and it's worked. Ramires is not in there for his offensive game which is very limited.

You fail to mention what Rambo lacks in passing penetration, he practically makes up for with his Yaya Toure-esque runs and surges through the middle. Very nimble yet deceptively strong. Much better than Lampard in that role, as RDM is now figuring that out.