Badboy 1,526 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I personally think Drogba's first two season's where his 3rd and 4th best season's for us. His best display in a Chelsea shirt came in his 2nd campaign when we won 4-1 at Anfield.I have always said that Drogba had more of an impact on the team in his first 2 seasons. He opened so much space with his back to goal for the likes of Robben, Duff and Lampard to almost casually walk into and score. He sacrificed himself for the team and it worked brilliantly, when he played more for himself in the 3rd season he got an avalanche of goals but we won nothing which says a lot. Chelsea fans that say he was poor in his first 2 seasons were probably not Chelsea fans back then because if they were they would of noticed that his battling ram style was integral to our performances and yes that 4-1 at Anfield was probably his best display in a Chelsea shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 @Badboy,Very true, i thought he (overall) declined after the third season (with the exception of the double season), yes he scored all the cup final goals but his consistency imo waned after Jose left (apart from the double wining season ofcourse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 @Badboy,Very true, i thought he (overall) declined after the third season (with the exception of the double season), yes he scored all the cup final goals but his consistency imo waned after Jose left (apart from the double wining season ofcourse).The thing is I think that the club in general wasn't consistent. We were juggling through clowns of managers with the exception of Ancelotti, who looked to be a permanent manager. With established coaches and some club stability he delivered the goods fairly consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 The thing is I think that the club in general wasn't consistent. We were juggling through clowns of managers with the exception of Ancelotti, who looked to be a permanent manager. With established coaches and some club stability he delivered the goods fairly consistently.That is a fair point actually, i never looked at it from that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Not our best performance, but we were solid and it was our biggest win. Top of the league!Hate to say I told you so but....Pretty much everything I alluded to in the pregame came to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's looking good but now this is where we have to focus. Norwich drew 3-3 at Arsenal last season and beat the yids at WHL. Beating Arsenal is completely pointless if we fail to beat Norwich at home. Also this will be a Norwich team who played pretty well here last season and they will be hurting from what's been going on with them this season. They're still yet to win a game, we have to concentrate and win the game. Very big game now before the the double of Tottenham away and Man Utd at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's looking good but now this is where we have to focus. Norwich drew 3-3 at Arsenal last season and beat the yids at WHL. Beating Arsenal is completely pointless if we fail to beat Norwich at home. Also this will be a Norwich team who played pretty well here last season and they will be hurting from what's been going on with them this season. They're still yet to win a game, we have to concentrate and win the game. Very big game now before the the double of Tottenham away and Man Utd at home.There's one slight difference between the Norwich of last season and the one this season. Paul Lambert. Under him, they pretty much took the game to every opposition with his cavalier approach. Chris Hughton's Norwich is slightly the opposite. Not so much of a defensive team but less attack minded than back then. But I do agree you. The win against Arsenal will count for nothing if we don't beat Norwich here. It will be tough regardless of their poor form so far and I'm sure, just like in the case of every lesser sides do after getting thrashed the week before, Norwich will look to keep things tight and make life very difficult for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2210556/Gary-Neville-Arsenal-Chelsea-separated-belief.htmlDecent piece by Gary Neville on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's hard to complain when you win a derby away from home, but I will say I thought it wasn't our best performance this season. The Oscar, Mata, Hazard combination may have worked yesterday (in terms of the result at least) but our lack of width was alarming. Cole was MOTM for me for an absolutely flawless performance. Pete saved our 3 points with two top shelf saves. Mata brilliant again, Hazard marked out of the match again (that's maybe a bit harsh to say that he was out of the game, but his influence was hugely reduced; he needs to take on players more often imho). Oscar was crucial for the balance of the team, his defensive work was excellent ( I stand corrected about his defensive abilities). Mata continued his stunning form and Torres had a great game (bar that one-on-one with the keeper) especially in terms of his hold-up play; his best match in blue.On a side note, we really need to stop diving, it's getting fucking embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's hard to complain when you win a derby away from home, but I will say I thought it wasn't our best performance this season. The Oscar, Mata, Hazard combination may have worked yesterday (in terms of the result at least) but our lack of width was alarming.Espically our first in 8 tries..bit crazy! But yeah the diving is pathetic is is gana lead to issues with refs if we carry on.Hard to shake that reputation once you have it reallyDrogba great player no arguing that but when he was having a meh day you could tell!Hopfully Torres will carry on from him.Never gana be the player he was but anything better we have seen so far bonus at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 On a side note, we really need to stop diving, it's getting fucking embarrassing!Who dived yesterday? I only saw Jenkinson dive, he should get an award for that really, it was simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Who dived yesterday? I only saw Jenkinson dive, he should get an award for that really, it was simply amazing.Luiz at the start of the second half. Torres, although he did not dive, but why the hell did he put his hand in the air pleading for a pen when he clearly missed his kick?http://www.dailymail...ted-belief.htmlDecent piece by Gary Neville on the game.when you watched them lose 2-1 against Chelsea, there wasn't a difference in quality. But it was as though there was one team who absolutely knew how to win a big game and another team that weren't too sure.Absolutely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Weird how much sense Neville makes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Luiz at the start of the second half. Torres, although he did not dive, but why the hell did he put his hand in the air pleading for a pen when he clearly missed his kick?I don't think Luiz dived, he got up limping and never asked for a pen. Remember he had picked up a knock way prior to that and got subbed off due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Luiz at the start of the second half.I dont think it was a dive at all. He fell...That is a big difference between falling like a piece of shit and simulating and asking for a pk. It was an embarassing fall, but he did not even asked for a pen.The ref got it really wrong IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I don't think Luiz dived, he got up limping and never asked for a pen. Remember he had picked up a knock way prior to that and got subbed off due to injury.I dont think it was a dive at all. He fell...That is a big difference between falling like a piece of shit and simulating and asking for a pk. It was an embarassing fall, but he did not even asked for a pen.The ref got it really wrong IMO.Well his 'fall' happened to occur when he lost the ball in the pen area. Whether he meant to dive or not is, in this case, irrelevant, because he was perceived by the ref and match spectators to have dived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Well his 'fall' happened to occur when he lost the ball in the pen area. Whether he meant to dive or not is, in this case, irrelevant, because he was perceived by the ref and match spectators to have dived.Yes, he fell after losing posession, but that does not take away the fact he did not dive. I said it was an embarassing fall.It is relevant the fact he did not dive! It is like you are saying it is not relevant the fact JT was not racist in the case of Anton Ferdinand, since FA punished him and he got a bad image from fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Yes, he fell after losing posession, but that does not take away the fact he did not dive. I said it was an embarassing fall.It is relevant the fact he did not dive! It is like you are saying it is not relevant the fact JT was not racist in the case of Anton Ferdinand, since FA punished him and he got a bad image from fans...I meant it is irrelevant to how we are perceived by other fans, the media, and consequently the referees in our upcoming matches because in the eyes of everyone else, it was a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Well, everyone who watch the replay will see he just fell and he has not a reputation of diving (like Neymar, Young, etc). So I dont see much of an impact on his reputation. If he continues to put himself in this situation, it might get into account this game vs Arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 We dived? Chelsea were the team in blue, not red. They hit the deck more than us and they have a history of it. If we dived on Saturday then great, we beat them at both their games. Passing and diving. I still think they dived more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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