Victor Moses

[mccg 1,528]

12 hours ago, Pizy said:

Played out of his skin at times this season and he deserved the praise he got. But there are times when you can tell he's not wired as a defender. The positions he takes up, the speed (or lack thereof) with which he reads situations, and his decisions in the final third are all poor.

Hes a very good option to have in a big squad that'll be in so many competitions next season but he isn't good enough to start every game. We need an upgrade.

Yeah agree ,tbf i'd like to see him more in his natural role , good squad player but we will need a more specialised person going forward and improving the team like afew other positions also.

[It's too big 625]

Which RWB's are out there for us both defensively and offensively? 

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Let us down big time.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He's had a super season, but he will have severely tarnished his reputation after that dive yesterday. 

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

If I was in Moses situation and position.

I would ask Chelsea to have an all day event at CFC London megastore shop.

Free picture autographs and selfies with everyone to turn up and perform some stuff and apologize for my actions and do some some talking and give a little a bit of myself and share some stories about my life.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

2 minutes ago, KevinAshburner said:

If I was in Moses situation and position.

I would ask Chelsea to have an all day event at CFC London megastore shop.

Freepicture autographs and selfies with everyone to turn up and perform some stuff and apologize for my actions and do some some talking and give a little a bit of myself and share some stories about my life.

No, I wouldn't. He was doing what all players do in that sort of situation - trying to win his team a penalty to get back into the game. He's just the unlucky moron who a referee decided to make an example of. I don't think the referee wanted to send him off, but realised as soon as he'd given the free-kick for simulation that he was going to have to. 

[Henrique 9,133]

On 2017-5-28 at 5:31 AM, It's too big said:

Which RWB's are out there for us both defensively and offensively? 

Moses is not a RWB. Before that Arsenal game in the beginning of the season, Moses was just a "winger". There are few teams around playing in 3-6-1 or 3-4-3 system, so wing backs don't even exist. Usually wingers or fullbacks are the ones more suited to play the "wing back" position, and if a ultra limited player like Moses can be decent in that position, no doubt that means there are a lot player around that can play as wing backs.

[Henrique 9,133]

This forum is really weird in terms of praising and criticizing some players. Moses was good for most part of the season, actually he was even essential, since he was the best player in the squad that could play the "wing back" role. Ok, but he has always been pretty limited, he offers almost nothing in terms of going forward, but he is usually pretty solid in defense, and he hardly make stupid defensive mistakes, but despite he being limited, there were a lot of crazy comments saying he as "world class"  when the team started to win games after games.

Now after a silly mistake in a FA Cup Final everybody are saying we need someone to replace him. 

Really? So if the result was different with Moses scoring the winner people would believe Moses was really good enough to start games next season? 

Moses is by a country mile the most limited player of the current starting XI and easily one of the most limited of the entire squad (if no the THE most limited).  What he did this season was enough to give him a deserved +2 years contract and he will be a useful player next season, but as a squad player and this has nothing to do with his red card in the FA Cup Final.

[LAM09 6,732]

37 minutes ago, Henrique said:

This forum is really weird in terms of praising and criticizing some players. Moses was good for most part of the season, actually he was even essential, since he was the best player in the squad that could play the "wing back" role. Ok, but he has always been pretty limited, he offers almost nothing in terms of going forward, but he is usually pretty solid in defense, and he hardly make stupid defensive mistakes, but despite he being limited, there were a lot of crazy comments saying he as "world class"  when the team started to win games after games.

Now after a silly mistake in a FA Cup Final everybody are saying we need someone to replace him. 

Really? So if the result was different with Moses scoring the winner people would believe Moses was really good enough to start games next season? 

Moses is by a country mile the most limited player of the current starting XI and easily one of the most limited of the entire squad (if no the THE most limited).  What he did this season was enough to give him a deserved +2 years contract and he will be a useful player next season, but as a squad player and this has nothing to do with his red card in the FA Cup Final.

He was once a CF for Wigan. His inability infront of goal on a number of occasions this season has been very surprising. 

[Fernando 6,441]

1 hour ago, Henrique said:

This forum is really weird in terms of praising and criticizing some players. Moses was good for most part of the season, actually he was even essential, since he was the best player in the squad that could play the "wing back" role. Ok, but he has always been pretty limited, he offers almost nothing in terms of going forward, but he is usually pretty solid in defense, and he hardly make stupid defensive mistakes, but despite he being limited, there were a lot of crazy comments saying he as "world class"  when the team started to win games after games.

Now after a silly mistake in a FA Cup Final everybody are saying we need someone to replace him. 

Really? So if the result was different with Moses scoring the winner people would believe Moses was really good enough to start games next season? 

Moses is by a country mile the most limited player of the current starting XI and easily one of the most limited of the entire squad (if no the THE most limited).  What he did this season was enough to give him a deserved +2 years contract and he will be a useful player next season, but as a squad player and this has nothing to do with his red card in the FA Cup Final.

Welcome to Talkchelsea.

Home of the knee jerk reaction people! 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

18 hours ago, Henrique said:

This forum is really weird in terms of praising and criticizing some players. Moses was good for most part of the season, actually he was even essential, since he was the best player in the squad that could play the "wing back" role. Ok, but he has always been pretty limited, he offers almost nothing in terms of going forward, but he is usually pretty solid in defense, and he hardly make stupid defensive mistakes, but despite he being limited, there were a lot of crazy comments saying he as "world class"  when the team started to win games after games.

Now after a silly mistake in a FA Cup Final everybody are saying we need someone to replace him. 

Really? So if the result was different with Moses scoring the winner people would believe Moses was really good enough to start games next season? 

Moses is by a country mile the most limited player of the current starting XI and easily one of the most limited of the entire squad (if no the THE most limited).  What he did this season was enough to give him a deserved +2 years contract and he will be a useful player next season, but as a squad player and this has nothing to do with his red card in the FA Cup Final.

I don't agree that many people have changed their minds. Most people are, I think, exactly where they always have been, and where I am too, on Victor. He has played a significant part in our improvement but he is nothing more than the best option we have. He's holding the place until we get someone better. If Saturday has made those who would like to see Victor replaced a bit more vocal then that's maybe understandable. It doesn't mean however that before Saturday they all thought he should remain our starting RWB.

Different people have different priorities, but for me Vic is, and has been for many, many months, number 2 on the requires upgrade list.

[the wes 7,212]

[Beigl 1,387]

I know we are after Alex Sandro, but we really should sort our RWB problems out first. Moses hasn't been at his best since January and a teenager owned him on Tuesday. Chamberlain might be a good option to provide some competition on our right side..

[Special Juan 27,419]

The Ox should be the man we go for, he would be a very good signing.

[manpe 10,861]

23 minutes ago, Beigl said:

I know we are after Alex Sandro, but we really should sort our RWB problems out first. Moses hasn't been at his best since January and a teenager owned him on Tuesday. Chamberlain might be a good option to provide some competition on our right side..

LWB is priority because we have 2 players who can play RWB (Azpi, Moses). We have no left-footed players who can play LWB other than Alonso, and don't tell me Kenedy. RWB is not that pressing because we can rotate there, even Rüdiger can possibly slot in if needed. Ideally we upgrade both, but the left side seriously needs numbers first.

[Reddish-Blue 2,339]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

The Ox should be the man we go for, he would be a very good signing.

Arsenal won't sell one of their brightest talents to us. 

We'll probably end up paying for Ryan Bertrand to be Alonso's competition at LWB. 

[nyikolajevics 2,572]

2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Arsenal won't sell one of their brightest talents to us. 

We'll probably end up paying for Ryan Bertrand to be Alonso's competition at LWB. 

Ox's contract ir running out in one year, so now or never.

 

How does Bertrand come here? Ox is a RWB, no LWB.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Arsenal won't sell one of their brightest talents to us.

Have you forgotten Nasri, Van Persie? Can never rule out anything with Arsenal.