Blue Armour 4,439 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 For me, if we are playing James at RB, Azpi has to definitely start, until we get a good LB and Rudiger returns to the CB lineup. The current defensive lineup had no other vocal leaders and very little organization, and he's the closest we've got, no matter how much of a 'leader' he is. Remember, Azpi was playing fine at RB when we were on a 7 game winning streak. Lampard started including James as permanent fixture in the starting lineup, not just based on James' merit, but because Emerson and Alonso played like crap in their most recent games Emerson was terrible against West Ham and City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 hours ago, communicate said: The comment in this section is ridiculous. Is Azpi the same player as he was in his prime, of course not,but he is perfectly fine. His performance this season has been good.  He is not perfectly fine mate.....pretty fucking far from that. I wish he was perfectly fine. His legs are gone, his heart is there but not the legs. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Atomiswave said: He is not perfectly fine mate.....pretty fucking far from that. I wish he was perfectly fine. His legs are gone, his heart is there but not the legs. Only two weeks ago he kept Sterling quiet at The Ethiad then went to the the other side and done the same to Mahrez. He was also excellent against Quincy in Amsterdam. Don't get me wrong he's not what he was and he should be James's back up going forward, however 2015 Ivanovic he most definitely is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: Only two weeks ago he kept Sterling quiet at The Ethiad then went to the the other side and done the same to Mahrez. He was also excellent against Quincy in Amsterdam. Don't get me wrong he's not what he was and he should be James's back up going forward, however 2015 Ivanovic he most definitely is not. Ohh Bane was utter horrid in that time frame.....he had literally nothing to give, this Azpi is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Atomiswave said: He is not perfectly fine mate.....pretty fucking far from that. I wish he was perfectly fine. His legs are gone, his heart is there but not the legs. He is perfectly fine. The problem is people think we are playing FM and we will sign a very good backup striker, a wc right winger, a wc left back, a wc CB, a backup rb as easy as that. In reality is not that simple, take Azpi position, let's say we just move Azpi next season, now we need a rb. What kind of rb that you want, do you want a tall one, a fast one, a good crosser, a good defender. Is he available? If so how much? Is he at the right age? Is he better than Azpi? Is he willing to play backup.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, communicate said: He is perfectly fine. The problem is people think we are playing FM and we will sign a very good backup striker, a wc right winger, a wc left back, a wc CB, a backup rb as easy as that. In reality is not that simple, take Azpi position, let's say we just move Azpi next season, now we need a rb. What kind of rb that you want, do you want a tall one, a fast one, a good crosser, a good defender. Is he available? If so how much? Is he at the right age? Is he better than Azpi? Is he willing to play backup.   Thinking like that we will never get any players......there are plnety quality out there summer time as long as we are willing to pay. But for this season it will be Azpi and Emerson, Emerson should just get in and play for a few games and get up to speed again. But summer we should def get a good replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 8:17 PM, OneMoSalah said: Fuck me not this ridiculous captain bullshit again. Almost as bad as the Cahill shouldnt be captain bullshit as well. Swear when its all going well Azpi is the man and if not hes this, that and whatever. Hes worth criticism for performances yes but do you think he would of retained the armband under Sarri and Lampard if he wasnt fit for it? When will people realise that the captains in the mould of Terry, Ramos, Kompany etc arent as common as they were 10 years ago either? Footballers are changing, mentally they are softer than theyve ever been. I mean if you look at the likes of City whos captain is David Silva, who you wouldnt think of as a natural leader or Ashley Young at United, Xhaka was at Arsenal etc. In terms of captains we arent the worst. But typical Azpi isnt playing well so the shit captain thing comes to fruition again. Tbh even in Azpi best games/years, he doesnt strike as strong captain tbh. Not that old school leader type. That said he is still best option we have. If we had proper leaders, Azpi would never be our captain, but just because we dont and he is doesnt mean we should hate him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: Tbh even in Azpi best games/years, he doesnt strike as strong captain tbh. Not that old school leader type. That said he is still best option we have. If we had proper leaders, Azpi would never be our captain, but just because we dont and he is doesnt mean we should hate him for that. In my post I said you rarely see those guys now a days though at club level. The more old school captains. Ramos, Chiellini and Thiago Silva, the guys I am thinking of at top clubs these days of the top of my head who are captains. Maybe de Ligt can go and be like that. Captaining Ajax and all at his age, he seems to be in that mould. The captains in the PL towards the top end of the table, Jordan Henderson strike me more as someone in that more classic mould in comparison to at the other top clubs (never thought Id ever say it either because I have always despised him as a player). David Silva at City for instance strikes me as not exactly a typical captain. Young at United. Xhaka at Arsenal before being demoted. Same boat. Azpi is a lot better than those guys as captain material for me. Not Henderson though. But because hes not John Terry or because Cahill wasnt John Terry.... it was a huge issue. Imagine if we made Hazard captain as well with Sarri last season? Theyd be people saying the same or worse... you do need other players in the squad to step up and take responsibility too and be leaders without being captain for say, Jorginho is a guy who is in that mould for us but we havent got many more. It might come with some of the younger guys with experience, it might not. BlueLyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 He had an excellent game, Im one of his biggest critics but he was superb Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 He had an excellent game, Im one of his biggest critics but he was superbHe still let Bambas Cross in, which led to a goal. Apart from that, Good Performance Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Atomiswave said: Thinking like that we will never get any players......there are plnety quality out there summer time as long as we are willing to pay. But for this season it will be Azpi and Emerson, Emerson should just get in and play for a few games and get up to speed again. But summer we should def get a good replacement. Of course if you are willing to pay you can get anybody but that is just FM talk. Pool has been searching for a backup lb, still can't find one. Of course if you are like city you can spend 60m euro on backup rb but that is not realistic. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, communicate said: Of course if you are willing to pay you can get anybody but that is just FM talk. Pool has been searching for a backup lb, still can't find one. Of course if you are like city you can spend 60m euro on backup rb but that is not realistic. the dippers did not get a backup LB (or anything else) for one reason only Fenway Sports Group told Klopp that he gets ZERO for last summer Klopp wants Nico Sculz or Christian Günter or Philipp Max  Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Vesper said: the dippers did not get a backup LB (or anything else) for one reason only Fenway Sports Group told Klopp that he gets ZERO for last summer Klopp wants Nico Sculz or Christian Günter or Philipp Max  No way he will tell klopp you have zero. Are those player available, do they want to play backup? Yes backup not rotation player but backup because they won't start over Robertson unless Robertson is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, communicate said: No way he will tell klopp you have zero. Are those player available, do they want to play backup? Yes backup not rotation player but backup because they won't start over Robertson unless Robertson is injured. re-read Quote Fenway Sports Group told Klopp that he gets ZERO for last summer and they could all be purchased for a decent price, and all three can play winger and MF as well, Günter can play CB too (he is 1.85m strong, pacey, he would be a cracking backup for Robertson, so I hope they FAIL on all of them)  Günter Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 We need RB as well... killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 We need RB as well... This is One of our main problems Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 08/12/2019 at 9:32 PM, Jason said: Nothing wrong with being critical but some of the comments here - especially when the same people keep on repeating them - really enter the 'hate' territory. I'm in the FB group of the Chelsea Supporters Club in Syria, and believe me, almost two thirds of the people admit thier hatred in the most disrespectful manner you can imagine. Calling him shit and trash, blaming him for every defeat, acting like James is the 2nd coming, and showing their ignorance and ungratefulness towards their captain and all the things he has achieved with the club. It's quite frustrating. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 21 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: We need RB as well... No we don't. We are set at RB with James and Dave for a few years. The former just needs a good run of games. Don't care how many mistakes he makes, he needs to start playing consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Time to go back to Osasuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 On 11.12.2019 at 8:12 AM, Vesper said: re-read and they could all be purchased for a decent price, and all three can play winger and MF as well, Günter can play CB too (he is 1.85m strong, pacey, he would be a cracking backup for Robertson, so I hope they FAIL on all of them)  Günter He is good but 27 in 2 months. If we got Chilwell he would be a good backup tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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