Dion 2,476 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oscar is playing worse for Brazil than he used to. It is easily noticeable that he's not the same player he used to be and I don't know what happened. One year ago, Oscar would be my MOTM for our NT in 8/9 games out of 10. He would pretty much always outperform Neymar too. Now Neymar plays better than him in every game while performing in a level about the same he's always have with the yellow jersey and, bar the first game against Croatia, Oscar hasn't come close to being MOTM. Oscar used to produce a lot more attacking chances, I thought he would bring his Brazilian NT form to Chelsea one day but it seems the opposite is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oscar is playing worse for Brazil than he used to. It is easily noticeable that he's not the same player he used to be and I don't know what happened. One year ago, Oscar would be my MOTM for our NT in 8/9 games out of 10. He would pretty much always outperform Neymar too. Now Neymar plays better than him in every game while performing in a level about the same he's always have with the yellow jersey and, bar the first game against Croatia, Oscar hasn't come close to being MOTM.Menenez v Scolari. Joker10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 So, my question to you all….Do we sell Oscar and by James?It's out there, let's go.Your question is pointless. We're not getting James. Monaco bought him for 45 million (I think).Then take into account that Monaco would be reluctant to sell and the fact that he's playing a great World Cup. I mean the asking price is gonna be ridiculous. laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Joker10 946 Posted June 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oscar is playing worse for Brazil than he used to. It is easily noticeable that he's not the same player he used to be and I don't know what happened. One year ago, Oscar would be my MOTM for our NT in 8/9 games out of 10. He would pretty much always outperform Neymar too. Now Neymar plays better than him in every game while performing in a level about the same he's always have with the yellow jersey and, bar the first game against Croatia, Oscar hasn't come close to being MOTM. Oscar used to produce a lot more attacking chances, I thought he would bring his Brazilian NT form to Chelsea one day but it seems the opposite is happening.Mano system got the best out of Oscar, he was everything Mano looked for in a number 10. Ability to press to press high, drop deep and distribute, and work his magic in the final third. Once Oscar emerged, Mano Brazil looked so much better. Unfortunate he got sacked imo.Unfortunately for Oscar your manager Scolari and your nation cares more about getting the best out of Neymar. This is Neymar team, and he is a bigger talent and unfortunate it comes at Oscar's expense. Barbara, Dion, ChelseaFSee and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 28, 2014 Its so unbelievable to see everyone would sell Oscar to buy James..."Oh Oscar only made great pass and cross that should end with goal but the rest he was shit"..."oh James is soo fantastic oh my"...but then again football isnt just about attacking. Oscar does the job that people dont see and no other #10 can do in the world. Cesc will add creativity but Oscar will do rest. Finaly, everyone is so smart and tries to explain Oscar isnt typical #10, but in next sentence they blast him that he doesnt offer enough in attack. Ffs he is working his ass im defence and thats why he isnt as much in attack as he could be. James is main guy in colombia while Oscar works his ass off to acomodate Neymar. Stop playing fifa and fucking support Oscar as long he is here. Ffs he wont score 5 goals and 3 assists every game and even then someone smart would be found and say "oh but he didnt save a penalty".You miss something once you lose it they say. James is Monaco player and Oscar is ours. Stop getting in James ass and dont blame Oscar for everything. Madmax, kellzfresh, sherry33 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Mano system got the best out of Oscar, he was everything Mano looked for in a number 10. Ability to press to press high, drop deep and distribute, and work his magic in the final third. Once Oscar emerged, Mano Brazil looked so much better. Unfortunate he got sacked imo.Unfortunately for Oscar your manager Scolari and your nation cares more about getting the best out of Neymar. This is Neymar team, and he is a bigger talent and unfortunate it comes at Oscar's expense. This.Mano Brazil was led by Oscar, Scolari is led by Neymar. It's really easy to see the difference in both teams...Also, when Neymar has the ball/plays the 10, he doesnt really look for the pass, moreso to draw fouls or to score himself, which is the huge contrast between neymar 10 and oscar 10.However, if Brazil win the world cup, than I guess it was the correct decision... zolayes and Joker10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oscar works his ass off to acomodate Neymar. and Hazard who is the player our team actually flows through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Mano system got the best out of Oscar, he was everything Mano looked for in a number 10. Ability to press to press high, drop deep and distribute, and work his magic in the final third. Once Oscar emerged, Mano Brazil looked so much better. Unfortunate he got sacked imo.Unfortunately for Oscar your manager Scolari and your nation cares more about getting the best out of Neymar. This is Neymar team, and he is a bigger talent and unfortunate it comes at Oscar's expense. Maybe you're on to something but Oscar has played better with Scolari too. I think it is more than that. I think he's still on a slump, he looks terrible compared to how he used to play. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted June 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 28, 2014 Its so unbelievable to see everyone would sell Oscar to buy James..."Oh Oscar only made great pass and cross that should end with goal but the rest he was shit"..."oh James is soo fantastic oh my"...but then again football isnt just about attacking. Oscar does the job that people dont see and no other #10 can do in the world. Cesc will add creativity but Oscar will do rest.Finaly, everyone is so smart and tries to explain Oscar isnt typical #10, but in next sentence they blast him that he doesnt offer enough in attack. Ffs he is working his ass im defence and thats why he isnt as much in attack as he could be. James is main guy in colombia while Oscar works his ass off to acomodate Neymar. Stop playing fifa and fucking support Oscar as long he is here. Ffs he wont score 5 goals and 3 assists every game and even then someone smart would be found and say "oh but he didnt save a penalty".You miss something once you lose it they say.James is Monaco player and Oscar is ours. Stop getting in James ass and dont blame Oscar for everything.You sound upset.Oscar had an OK first half but was a total non-factor for the rest of the game. He can only get by on defensive work-rate for so long, he has to start doing more. And soon. Reddish-Blue, Barbara, kellzfresh and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Maybe you're on to something but Oscar has played better with Scolari too. I think it is more than that. I think he's still on a slump, he looks terrible compared to how he used to play.It's like watching a totally different player at times. A much slower, weaker and technically inept one. Barbara, Dion, The Mak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Just what has Ramires done to you lad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Maybe you're on to something but Oscar has played better with Scolari too. I think it is more than that. I think he's still on a slump, he looks terrible compared to how he used to play.Oscar talent will always have Croatia type games on occasions, undoubtedly for me he is still a great player. But even in the Croatia game you barely saw him drop deep and receive the ball from the CB and be a distributor and catalyst for the team. IMO that what makes him special and different from other top AMs in the world, he is an old school number 10. If you make him a primary final ball and final third player then there are many AM's better then him. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oscar talent will always have Croatia type games on occasions, undoubtedly for me he is still a great player. But even in the Croatia game you barely saw him drop deep and receive the ball from the CB and be a distributor and catalyst for the team. IMO that what makes him special and different from other top AMs in the world, he is an old school number 10. If you make him a primary final ball and final third player then there are many AM's better then him. I think he needs a free role to excel. In his best games I remember seeing him everywhere, sometimes he would be upfront finishing, sometimes he would drop deep to distribute, sometimes he would be marking and doing defensive work, sometimes he would be making a run between defenders, sometimes he would be wide trying a cross. It seemed like he always knew where the team needed him, I would praise his tactical awareness more than anything else he had. Right now he seems to be too focused on defending and going down the wings. It's so weird. kellzfresh, zolayes, Joker10 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I think he needs a free role to excel. In his best games I remember seeing him everywhere, sometimes he would be upfront finishing, sometimes he would drop deep to distribute, sometimes he would be marking and doing defensive work, sometimes he would be making a run between defenders, sometimes he would be wide trying a cross. It seemed like he always knew where the team needed him, I would praise his tactical awareness more than anything else he had. Right now he seems to be too focused on defending and going down the wings. It's so weird.not weird and your explaination makes so much sense .. I want to see him freed to do what he does best CREATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted June 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 28, 2014 I think he needs a free role to excel. In his best games I remember seeing him everywhere, sometimes he would be upfront finishing, sometimes he would drop deep to distribute, sometimes he would be marking and doing defensive work, sometimes he would be making a run between defenders, sometimes he would be wide trying a cross. It seemed like he always knew where the team needed him, I would praise his tactical awareness more than anything else he had. Right now he seems to be too focused on defending and going down the wings. It's so weird.Thing is most attacking players look better than they actually are when given free roles. It's not going to happen at Chelsea under Mourinho though. Not even Hazard has a free role. Reddish-Blue, Belgiannutt, couris and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I think he needs a free role to excel. In his best games I remember seeing him everywhere, sometimes he would be upfront finishing, sometimes he would drop deep to distribute, sometimes he would be marking and doing defensive work, sometimes he would be making a run between defenders, sometimes he would be wide trying a cross. It seemed like he always knew where the team needed him, I would praise his tactical awareness more than anything else he had. Right now he seems to be too focused on defending and going down the wings. It's so weird.That's true but i think that applies for all the attacking players out there. Free roles usually means the player can focus on what he does best and that automatically boosts a player's performance.but free roles are rare in modern football and only given to 1 player per team,the best player of the team in terms of attacking quality and he simply isn't, neither at Brazil (Neymar) or at Chelsea (Hazard) (at Chelsea there wasn't even a free role for any player, not even Hazard) Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 That's true but i think that applies for all the attacking players out there. Free roles usually means the player can focus on what he does best and that automatically boosts a player's performance.but free roles are rare in modern football and only given to 1 player per team,the best player of the team in terms of attacking quality and he simply isn't, neither at Brazil (Neymar) or at Chelsea (Hazard) (at Chelsea there wasn't even a free role for any player, not even Hazard)Speaking for Brazil NT only, I think we played better when Oscar was on the free role instead of Neymar. Neymar is just too selfish and attacking oriented whereas Oscar does it all. kellzfresh, zolayes and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Speaking for Brazil NT only, I think we played better when Oscar was on the free role instead of Neymar. Neymar is just too selfish and attacking oriented whereas Oscar does it all.That was how I felt . Neymar was SELFISH Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Once again proved how averge he is. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Speaking for Brazil NT only, I think we played better when Oscar was on the free role instead of Neymar. Neymar is just too selfish and attacking oriented whereas Oscar does it all.Well i think Oscar is indeed more well rounded then Neymar but Neymar is more goal oriented. Give him a free role and he's a lot more likely to score goals and create danger then Oscar ( free role).Free roles are given to boost a player (and a team's) attacking performance not to offer more balance to the side. Neymar offers more in the attacking side which is why he gets the free role.I don't think Neymar's "problem" is being selfish. He just seems to want to do too much at times. Sometimes he's already in a great position to shoot on goal but then decides to take on another player. (today vs Chile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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