didierforever 7,349 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 great. poor performances and now this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Because there are teams that will pay that amount. Just that.Isco had a buyout clause of 30/35M€, Gotze had a buyout clause of 37M€ clause, Varane was signed from Lens and was a complete stranger.PSG paid 42M€ for Lucas, Man United will pay something like 30M£ for Shaw, Mata for 37M£... there are lots of crazy clubs paying absurd amounts of money in players that are far from being the best ones in the world.Oscar is a very good player with a great potential, but if he is not consistent enough, professional enough, and talks too much there will be lots of teams that will pay an absurd amount of money for him, and there are dozens of players as good as he is.We have a lot of prima-donnas in this club that gave nothing to the club, and did nothing in football. With this kind of behavior this guy (and some others) will have a bad time in here, and in any decent club.Ok fair enough. The sooner we sell him, the quicker we can get a proper and competent playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 the guy sounds like a shit stirer ,, expect him to be writing for Mail soon ..He is the mole at Cobham - Neil Ashton's informer.Oscar ----> Parreira ----> Neil Ashton The Skipper, zolayes, The Mak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Lol, can't believe it... You guys are overreacting! So, even if he said it, so what? A player can't have preferences? Or the problem is that he talked? Today people give much more importance to things other than football... Everything has to be too perfect, all beautiful. He didn't say that wants to leave... Or that Mourinho is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wouldn't it be karma at its finest if that comment turns out to be true and Oscar really thinks that way? Mourinho shipped out one of the world's best playmakers in Mata so his golden boy could be the undisputed No. 10 and just a few months later that very same golden boy complains about his role... if it wasn't our club that this is happening at I'd be laughing now. Chelsea?, BlueSunshine, Sheva. and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Part of me thinks Oscar can go on to be a world class number 10 at Chelsea, but another part of me thinks he's struggling to adapt to the English game. Has been poor since Mata went, and if Mata was still here he'd probably be getting game time. Possibly excelling in it.If an offer of £45-50m came in for him after he had a great world cup then it would be hard to turn down. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 if oscar is unhappy; he can gladly leave leave for 40 mil and we will just activate draxlers 37 mil buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 For fuck sakes. He plays maybe 8 or 10 national team games a year and over 50 for Chelsea but hes still unhappy with how he's being used at Chelsea. Fucking grow a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Curious about exactly why he'd be an unhappy. He's given one of the most important positions on the pitch and he's been dubbed by Mourinho to be that world class at it. So if it's positional, that wouldn't make sense. If it's tactical then surely that would be a failure to adapt..? OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 It was Parreira who said it.Here they are:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLBVQq9cFAMy english is not perfect yet, but he said something like this:"He doesn't play, but... The problem is Mourinho, not Oscar. .He wants to play and he is uncomfortable with this situation. We talked and he was complaining because Mourinho makes a lot of changes every game"If it's true, Oscar must learn who is the boss at Chelsea, he should do everything what the boss instructed to him without complaining. If every player only wants to do what he want to do, we doesn't need manager.Well, about Parreira, I'm curious what his real intention here, did he want to destroy Oscar's career at Chelsea or something? Maybe he is Liverpool fans or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The idea that Oscar was "great" "fantastic" and one of our best players from August to December is the biggest myth of the season. there's no way in hell he was great for 4:5 months. He had a "decent" month of August and a few decent performance here and there in September and October and started fizzling out by November.Even during his "decent " run , we were still struggling to create clear cut chances and he had very little to no influence at all in rectifying that as an attacking midfielder who was supposedly on a "great" run of form. This myth or lie has to stop.Also his stats during those 4/5 months stood at 5 goals and 1 assist in the league. he was decent nothing more.I remember Mata once scored 5 goals in a single month so 5 goals in half a season is not not somethin to brag about lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 wouldn't miss him much if he left. also, weren't we playing him at the #10 spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm of the opinion that Oscar has been our second best AM/winger this season, better than Willian and Schurrle. His form dipped badly towards the end but he's still scored 14 goals this season, which is a very high number for a number 10. He could improve on the creative aspect of his game, he's only 22 and is one of our best players. One will think he's contributed nothing this season.I think some of the criticism and negativity is a little bit over the top. When is it going to end? It's his 2nd season in Europe already under his 3rd manager. He is also dealing with life as a father for the first time, it's tough. Give the guy some breathing room, ffs. kellzfresh and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 People talking about 50m for Oscar lol.Anyway, can't believe he would complain about Mourinho, who -undeservedly- made him a crucial component of a major European club. And he only dropped him after months of lackluster performances. OneMoSalah and Chelsea? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted May 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 14, 2014 Brazil's assistant managerIf someone can understand portuguese here are the quoteshttp://imirante.globo.com/esporte/brasil/noticias/2014/05/12/parreira-critica-mourinho-sobre-uso-de-david-luiz-e-oscar-no-chelsea.shtmlall you need to know about that source is written in the last paragraph of the article"XXXX-XXXX" is our Whatsapp number. Send any information/news you have for us."And the quote was mistranslated, if that's the original source. Parreira is saying that is Mourinho's problem if Oscar didn't play enough time (although Oscar was injured) and that the problem is that Mourinho makes a lot of changes in the team (LOL FOREVER) and changes it a lot.I don't know what's worse the quote itself (Mourinho barely changes the team style, so Oscar has been playing the same position since the start and he's only been subbed for injury and lack of fitness), the translation or the line asking people to send information to them through WhatsApp. JokeIt was Parreira who said it.Here they are:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLBVQq9cFAMy english is not perfect yet, but he said something like this:"He doesn't play, but... The problem is Mourinho, not Oscar. .He wants to play and he is uncomfortable with this situation. We talked and he was complaining because Mourinho makes a lot of changes every game"lol, this is even a worse jokeLet's start with the question, the only not stupid person in that video (biggest tv channel in Brazil and one of the most watched sports shows) is the guy. He asks, Oscar is really the only Brazilian that can be the AM behind the striker (he uses a different wording, but that's what he means)?Parreira who seems to be drunk answers "Football changed a lot. People put a lot of pressure on me often compare teams to the ones we had in 1970 and 1982, saying we don't have this or that player. but today speaking in an honest and pragmatic way, the teams plays with the squad they have, they have to make it do. This team we have now is the best in the world (or was the best in the world, couldn't really get what he meant). You can't compare saying you don't have a Pele, a Zico"WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?What does that answer have to do with the question? The guy straight forward asked: is Oscar the only Brazilian #10 we have now, the guy that plays behind the striker and creates chance and he answers with that? People put pressure on him? WTF, clown, you're not even the manager... that is Felipao and there's no pressure on him about a player we supposedly don't have or have and wasn't called. And the only pressure Felipao got imo was by not calling Miranda. Nobody questions Oscar at all in Brazil as far as I can say.Then the guy interrupts him and asks 'But is Oscar well physically' 'He's fit, we've been with him and he's fit. The reason why Oscar doesn't play is more about Mourinho than Oscar (his fitness), choices made by Mourinho, but he wants to play and he likes to play and he wasn't very comfortable with this situation.Then he confessed to us AND HE WASN'T COMPLAINING because there the manager makes a lot of changes (HE SAID IT, not OSCAR and he even said Oscar wasn't complaining), take this one, put that one, and there are a lot of (good) players to get in the team."Then the reasonable guy says: "It's hard to question Mourinho' and the stupid chick answer 'Mourinho has a problem with Brazilian players. There, I said it'I'm done with this kind of shit. Parreira is a high clown that still feels the pressure from a HORRIBLE team he set up and that was humiliated in the WC and how everyone scorns him for that. The woman is idiotic and only the male anchor makes sense in this mess of a 'journalism' with a guy that talks as if he was the one giving the cards... that is Felipao mainly and he uses the media to always justify things he used to have a problem when he was the main manager. A bunch of useless shit, in all honesty imo.But the most important thing, in addition to him using the most popular channel in brazil to justify and try to save his ass from something he did (a huge failure) almost a decade ago, he said Oscar DIDNT complain about it, only said he wasn't comfortable. Also he said that Oscar confessed to them... so I make a lot of confessions to my coworkers, then what? and he wasn't complaining, he was just uncomfortable. And let's be real, Oscar and Mourinho themselves admitted injuries this year, so now he's saying Oscar was fit when Oscar was saying he had a physical problem? And the part about not playing was PARREIRA's words, not Oscar and he justified it with Chelsea having a lot of players to play. Give a fucking break. mediator, The Mak, kc_blue and 15 others 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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