haranr 485 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I love these posters with talentmetersWho is better in your opinion? Hazard or Gotze? (As for your photo I ask) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Oscar did well IMO in recent games..he looks more lively and tries to be involved more in the game. Dont forget that best playmakers are at peak in later ages, I think Oscar is unique, after all he is 22 and you cant expect from 22y.o. to dictate whole tempo of the game. For example, Gotze isnt realy Bayern playmaker, but Schweini (or even Lahm) dictates their tempo. In Real, Xabi Alonso was the real playmaker, not Ozil (now Modric, not Isco). It will take some time for Oscar to understand his role, but judging by the fact that Mourinho (tactical expert) trusts Oscar at this young age, Im sure there must be something on him. Our team isnt near complete and it is normal that Oscar isnt at best level.Still, there are advantages in Oscar (hard work, tackling) but also weaknesses. While he is good #10, he will probably never be in range of Mata, Ozil, Gotze. Those have passing in head, Oscar is more allround. And I think he will be more succesfull than any of other three because of his work rate. Lamps was very raw back then at age 22 and he developed finishing and passing (FKs, corners,...) with years of playing...Oscar will do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He is not good enough. At his peak I am not even sure he is going to be World Class. He is no way near that now. Can't even pass.....Well buddy we don't know what he will be like at his peak do we? . Most people recognize his talent. If he is as bad as you think, then I don't think Mourinho will be trusting him with matches. But the fact is the kid is good. He has been getting his form back steadily now. He has the potential to be a world class player for sure. He might achieve, or he might not, that really depends on him aong with other factors. Different players have different development curves. He doesn't have to be a superstar all of a sudden. Give him till next year. It will be his second under Mourinho and you will be able to evaluate him better. With young players you have to be patient, because no one can really tell. It is easy to judge a fully developed mature player, but not a youngster. All in good time. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool 388 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I am truly sorry but as I see it now Oscar is just not good enough to play a starter in Chelsea next season, please someone change my mind and make me understand why we should keep him.Sorry, but you're just talking pure bollocks. The kid is only 22, and has accomplished and shown more than what most players show in their entire careers. As a fan, you should be grateful that we managed to sign such a pure talent. Sure, he has his moments of inconsistency, but tell me, what players didn't when they were 22 years old? And this isn't even taking into account the fact that he's played more matches than anyone else in the team in the past two seasons. I don't know if you have a short memory or what, but when C. Ronaldo was first at United, he was one of the most frustratingly inconsistent players, just ask any United fan. Look where he is now.So please, show a little more faith, and realize what you are saying before you spout such a crock of shite Barbara, Mohammed Seif and Mr_President 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Sorry, but you're just talking pure bollocks. The kid is only 22, and has accomplished and shown more than what most players show in their entire careers. As a fan, you should be grateful that we managed to sign such a pure talent. Sure, he has his moments of inconsistency, but tell me, what players didn't when they were 22 years old? And this isn't even taking into account the fact that he's played more matches than anyone else in the team in the past two seasons. I don't know if you have a short memory or what, but when C. Ronaldo was first at United, he was one of the most frustratingly inconsistent players, just ask any United fan. Look where he is now.So please, show a little more faith, and realize what you are saying before you spout such a crock of shite You don't understand. Oscar when he is good , he still isn't good enough. When he isn't good he is just shit. Countinho, Sterling, even Salah for me are better players. Seriously, Oscar for me is a 79 atm and at his best will be 84 (FIFA RATING FOR U TO UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Joe Cool 388 Posted April 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 13, 2014 You don't understand. Oscar when he is good , he still isn't good enough. When he isn't good he is just shit. Countinho, Sterling, even Salah for me are better players. Seriously, Oscar for me is a 79 atm and at his best will be 84 (FIFA RATING FOR U TO UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK.Of course I understand how you think. But it's your (deluded) opinion, so I suppose what I and many others on here tell you to try to convince you otherwise won't have much of an impact. Coutinho and Sterling have the privilege of playing with the two best strikers in the league, which makes a HUGE difference. Who does Oscar have to supply the ball to? Torres. It's a hell of a lot harder to shine when you have a gimp of a centre-forward who has no positional sense and can't finish to save his life. But whatever mate, if you don't think he's good enough, go ahead. Whatever floats your boat.And FIFA ratings? Get a grip mate chfn, seanptmiller, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Fifa ratings being used to describe the current form and potential of a Chelsea player.Fuck me this forum doesn't fail to amuse me at times ! Barbara, pHaRaOn, chfn and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Oscar for the pivot!He wasn't playing in the pivot... We played a 4-1-3-2. Matic held the midfield on his own. Mohammed Seif and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 You don't understand. Oscar when he is good , he still isn't good enough. When he isn't good he is just shit. Countinho, Sterling, even Salah for me are better players. Seriously, Oscar for me is a 79 atm and at his best will be 84 (FIFA RATING FOR U TO UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK.You do really chat a lot of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 You don't understand. Oscar when he is good , he still isn't good enough. When he isn't good he is just shit. Countinho, Sterling, even Salah for me are better players. Seriously, Oscar for me is a 79 atm and at his best will be 84 (FIFA RATING FOR U TO UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK.Lol oh yea? That's why Real and PSG are rumored to be willing to pay £40M for a guy who can't pass and at his best is shit? Do us a favor and, with all due respect, shut the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is not good enough. At his peak I am not even sure he is going to be World Class. He is no way near that now. Can't even pass.....retard alert guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 He is not good enough. At his peak I am not even sure he is going to be World Class. He is no way near that now. Can't even pass..... Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's okay. Oscar is not good enough which is a fact. U wanna lie to yourself fine enjoy it. I prefer Countinho in my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Lol oh yea? That's why Real and PSG are rumored to be willing to pay £40M for a guy who can't pass and at his best is shit? Do us a favor and, with all due respect, shut the fuck up.That is bullshit. You shut the fuck up idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 You do really chat a lot of shit Explain to me and stop failing. Oscar is not World class , He might be but it's not clear as daay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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